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After letting this bombshell of a release settle for almost a day now, I must say I am still pretty damn excited. What is offered at this price point seems unfathomable. I honestly don’t know how they will be making a profit off of this camera... but that isn’t my problem. Now I’ve been thinking about some of the obvious features and have made a few assumptions based on previous BM cameras... Dual ISO at 800 and 3200... this is huge but most likely, due to noise and DR, they will be the only two ISOs you would shoot at. I personally think it’s awesome to get that extra lowlight ISO but other people who haven’t shot with a BM camera may want to be aware of the practical ISOs on BM cameras if the 25,000 number is a huge selling point to them. IR Cut Filter??? There have been some claims that this may be the same sensor that’s inside the GH5s? If so, does that mean we won’t need an IR Cut filter? Waveform, False Color, Baked in LUTs... this is great... really awesome. I will probably be using this as a ProRes only camera, so Zebras set at 90 have been the go to setting for quick exposure on BM cameras... but if there is a quick solution to turn on False Color, then this becomes an invaluable tool at this price point. And finally the ability to not only load viewing LUTs but being able to bake them in is pretty awesome for quick turnaround... of course how this will affect the dynamic range of your shots should be considered before you start throwing LUTS at your footage before you hit record.... that’s where the waveform monitor will come in handy. So just these features alone are pretty amazing. There’s been a lot of talk about how this camera will affect the marketplace and in all honesty it shouldn’t. This looks like a shiny new toy but this IS A CINEMA camera. If you are an event videographer or a real estate videographer or a wedding videographer, there are better options out there and you will probably be let down. BM makes amazing cameras but the images need to be caressed during production and after. So your GH5 or C100 or FF Sony is not obsolete. I think your use of italics is a little misleading here? But you’re right the GH5 is awesome and you are getting nice work with it so there really isn’t a need for you to go out and buy the Pocket II. I think you will be highly disappointed with it.

Am I weirdo for mainly being interested in the 1080p Raw and ProRes? Plus the XLR... that’s just insane at this price point.

I briefly had the a5100 and really enjoyed it. Unfortunately, shortly after I bought it, I believed that the future was 4K, so I went 4K... I’m back to 1080p now. I recently watched a bunch of short films with the a6000 and they looked amazing. If you don’t mind a 1” sensor, the RX10 I and II are both very capable cameras. But if you don’t mind a 1” camera sensor, then you can probably get a good deal on the original Pocket camera pretty soon. Good luck. I love these threads when people realize that a lot of these specs are nonsense in the world we live in.

I wouldn’t think so, the ProRes is gorgeous on the Pocket and Micro. And with you being an FCPX user, it may make the most sense.

Google it. By no means am I saying ML Raw is better than BMDFilm but the 2 extra bits of 14bit Raw in ML does make the grading process a little quicker.

Well yes and no. With that small sensor, a quick push of the button would usually get your subject in focus fairly fast. It was really helpful with Panny lenses that don’t have the hard stops.

Good point. 5D Raw is easier to grade as well. In 2 or 3 layers you can get what it may take 7 or 8 for BMFilm.

Don’t fret, I’ll give you $300 for your GH5...

I’m half tempted to do the same but I probably won’t sell, just add to. FF Raw is pretty special. Of course, it could be a year before this thing is actually released... the Micro had a similar release schedule and it didn’t arrive to stores for over 6 months after the projected release date. By that time, who knows what will be available... BlackMagic isn’t the same small company it was 5 years ago when they released the original Pocket, they are a major player in the cinema camera market... so I assume Panasonic, Sony, and Canon’s eyes are twitching a little by this announcement. This time next year, Canon could have a FF mirrorless released with 4K RawLite. Or Panasonic may bump up the GH6 release for internal ProRes Raw and external Raw. This camera is a game changer for consumer priced cinema cameras!!!

Lol. Seriously though, I would be so happy with just the 1080p, XLR and Micro 4/3 sensor. Hopefully the OG model will drop in half.

If you’re at NAB, you should walk by the Z-Cam booth... you’ll probably find a Z-Cam E2 prototype in the trash.

Umm, blown away here. They went all out. It’s almost too mainstream. As I was reading the specs, I half expected to see IBIS. I hope they release a 1080p only version while we wait for the 4K model... I’ll give them a grand for it.

Holy Crap. Any info on codecs?

Yeah I saw that, but with the photo function, it kinda makes sense to go with a bigger sensor. I guess a Turbo II will be a great Speedbooster choice for the Pocket II if it’s Micro 4/3. Now just be under $1500...

Someone over at BMCuser said they thought they read M4/3 sensor on banner at press conference?

@BTM_Pix just stop... I’m out of likes for the day. Lol.

Idk, I think it’s a thin codec and sharpening is giving the appearance of detail. Because it really makes no sense.

Wow, I hope so. That would make this camera a lot more tempting to me. But it will probably be a lot closer to the $2000 range then...

I think the Pocket is thicker than the GH5, as a whole, so it gives the appearance that it’s larger? I also think the line near the air vents looks deeper than cosmetic. And even though I don’t think it’s an interchangeable sensor, I do wonder if there is something going on there?

It seems easy to me as well but maybe not to the marketing team of the consumer camera division... as much as I love an organic, soft image, a lot of users don’t. Sadly.

From that photo, I think the Pocketii looks pretty small... the lens still looks fairly large on the camera. And what’s with the 2 record buttons?

Fair enough, but I would question the subjectivity of the statement? ProRes HQ with no noise reduction or sharpness will beat the best codec on the GH5/s every day of the week. When you add Raw to the mix, the objectivity becomes clear. With that being said, the GH5/s is are amazing tools but different beasts.

The mistake of the GH5s wasn’t that it didn’t have IBIS, it’s that everyone expected it to have it... so the naming of the camera should have been different. With the BMPCC II, nobody would ever expect it. Plus the IQ of the GH5s vs the BMPCCii should be in two entirely different leagues. Not that the GH5s is bad, but it’s definitely for a different user.

Out of likes for today... but I agree. I think this is the perfect form factor. The 12-35mm lens isn’t that large of a lens, so this is still relatively small... smaller than a GH5. The grip looks comfortable and the screen seems to be improved. IMO this is a true run and gun cinema camera. If you don’t need OIS, this camera and the 20mm 1.7 or c-mounts... or even a Speedbooster and ai-s lenses will be a compact package compared to what else is available on the market with these specs.

I really hope the price is low enough for a price drop on the original. But if I were a betting man, then my guess is that this is a $2000 camera.