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One thing we do know is it won’t meed a Leeming LUT to get good color out of it.

This is true and if I was a betting man I would say there probably is a crop. But even with a crop, the video will look great and there will be plenty of videographers making a fortune using it.

Well first we have to assume that the specs are official Canon specs. They did originate from a google drive account. But assuming these are the actual specs, the biggest bummer for me is no IBIS. If the rumored $1900 price tag is correct, then I would probably be a buyer without question. Without it, I’m a wait and see. The other exciting rumor is 10bit HDMI out. So for me, the biggest questions that are still up in the air is Canon Log, 4K Crop, Price, and HDMI Out. And obviously Rolling Shutter. So it’s a wait and see, IMO.

Sony is still using the 100mbps 4K. You guys are too much. This camera will have AF that is unmatched by at least a generation.

I don’t think there’s a crop. They specifically mention EF-S Crop Shooting in the specs which they wouldn’t need to crop to if there was a 1.74x crop. I know that’s because they’re talking about FHD, but if they’re going to go to the trouble of mentioning a specific crop in these “final” specs, then why wouldn’t they mention a 4K crop as well.

480Mbps in All-I 4K in h.264... that’s higher than the GH5, right? Over 5000 AF points. Now if RS isn’t bad, this thing could be a beast.

So you guys think Canon, Nikon, Pentax, etc,... will stop making DSLRs within 5 years? Lol. I don’t know the exact numbers but I would guess that APS-C DSLRs make up over 50% of all interchangeable lens camera sales. But yeah, they’re going to be relics delegated to museum showcases in 5 years or less.

How is that their message? DSLRs won’t be increasingly obsolete over the next 5 years.

Are you sure about that? I thought the M 35mm is supposed to be a 1.4? Yeah according to CR, the 35mm 1.8 is an RF lens.

@Bioskop.Inc thanks for the suggestions. My Canon lenses will do the bread and butter of my work, but I do want a few manual lenses so these suggestions are priceless... especially the 5D mirror list. I think I have Super Tak versions of those lenses in fair condition... so I may try and find mint SMC copies. I also had the 20 and 24mm Taks and both were pretty decent. I particularly liked the 20... even with the slow aperture. Do you have any videos online from the Hollywood? That Zeiss pop/micro contrast is specifically what I’m looking for with the ZFs.

The f/2? Yeah, I am pretty sure it is the same design as the Contax Hollywood but it sells for even less. It’s definitely a possibility... I’ve been dreaming of that Hollywood lens for years.

I was all set with a plan and then this rumor pops up. I can’t wait to hear the video specs, to know for sure about which way to proceed. I wanted an EF Mount but damn these lenses look amazing. That 28-70mm f/2 is a dream lens. And since the 35mm is the only one without the red ring, Canon is going big with L lenses right out the gate. Btw, I’m hoping the R stands for Raw (as in video) Even 1080p RawLite would be an amazing video move for Canon. I think I might sell my 5D3 for that.... I know it won’t happen but until the specs come out... I can dream. Lol.

I looked up the CP.2 lenses on eBay last night and was surprised to see the prices of some of them but when you hear of their lineage, it doesn’t really make sense unless you’re working on a proper production with a proper focus puller and using matte boxes. Since I will have none of those luxuries, the ZFs make more financial sense. I’ll start off with the Distagon 35mm and see if I like it and then add a 50mm and 85mm if I like them. I’ve never owned any MF lenses but I have had a few of the Jena 135 lenses. Obviously, the Flek 35mm is a beaut of a lens but the mechanics of those East German lenses leave a little to be desired. I have 2 or 3 Tessars and none of the apertures work. But I shoot them wide open anyway so it doesn’t much matter. I briefly had the Pancolar a few years back and that was pretty damn nice. I also have a couple of the generic Taks (55mm f/2 and 35mm f/3.5) and I may dig them out to see how they fare with 5D3 Raw B&W... I assume the 35mm will be weirdly special in B&W... I have 3 or 4, brand new, Fotodiox Pro M42 adapters, so I wouldn’t mind putting together a cheap M42 set. I know the Helios and Jupiter lenses should be no brainers but I’ve never owned any and think they’re the obvious choice, so I am looking for something weirder... maybe Schneider, Meyer or Isco... ever used any of them? I’d also like to get the Chinon 55mm 1.7... I think that lens has a little of a cult following. When I switched from Canon EOS-M to 4K, the NX500 and then the G7, I noticed that individual, vintage lenses didn’t show as much of a difference in 4K but now that I’m back with Canon, I can really see the characteristics of the lenses more... I assume FF helps with that. It’s fun pulling out some of these old lenses and taking them for a spin again.

Yeah I have to agree that this is probably a FF Cine Camera with an EF Mount. It will probably be in between the Varicam and the LT... or maybe the LT and the EVA1.

Yup, ai-s Nikkors are great lenses and good investments if you buy the faster lenses. And if you’re patient you can usually find them for deals on eBay. I paid less than $300 for my mint 35mm 1.4 and sold it a year later for $400. I’m mostly interested in the Zeiss ZFs right now because I just read an article that they’re photo versions of CP.2s. So with Simmod giving competitive pricing on their mods, you can easily get some cinema quality lenses with the newer T coating for less than a 1/4 the price after the mod. And I don’t use a follow focus, so I would really do the mount change and get them declicked. But I’m also curious about the Sigma 50mm 1.4. The art version gets better reviews but not that much better than the older EX DG model. With my 5D, I’m looking for a sharp neutral 50 that I can get Push AF for Quick set ups.

How did you like the Rollei versions.

@BTM_Pix nice shots... out of likes for the day though. I had that lens and its Leica version. Such a wicked little zoom. My Leica version had a stuck zoom ring though so I never had a chance to mess around with it... supposedly it has a different look than the Minolta version (I think we discussed this before) and some reports say it has that Leica character. It’s probably good I got a dud... you guys would have been stuck looking at my screengrabs from Summicrons... lol. I’m really enjoying your Leica shots, but good thing I’m not a wealthier man.

Unfortunately I had to sell it... I had a bad year. About once a year I go through my lenses and test a few before I decide which ones are worth keeping and which ones need to go. But I don’t have any “sets” of lenses anymore either... of course I rarely change lenses so a set to me is 2 or 3 lenses in my favorite focal lengths. Right now I think I’m going to buy another Nikkor 35mm 1.4 and maybe the 85mm 1.4. But I’m really trying to decide if I want to put together a set of Zeiss ZF lenses and have them Leitaxed to EF. I’ve been into B&W a lot lately and supposedly the 35mm f/2 Distagon has insane micro contrast, so I may pick that up, see how I get along with it and decide from there. Thanks for the links. I rely on the photosynthesis site for Nikkor serial numbers but I haven’t checked out the others. I know some of the history behind ML lenses and they do seem to be a decent, budget alternative to Contax Zeiss. The 50mm f/2 I bought (yes those samples were screengrabs) seems to be an underdog in the ML collection that people keep referencing because they didn’t expect it to be so good, but I have heard that the 1.4 and 1.7 have a more direct lineage to their Zeiss cousins... so I am on the lookout for a 1.4, but for 25 bucks brand new... the f/2 will do for now. @Bioskop.Inc

@Bioskop.Inc nice work. I love the OG Pocket. And yes I used to own the Nikkor 24mm and it was a beautiful lens. But my favorite Nikkor has to be the 35mm 1.4. It’s so ugly wide open but with such great character... Here’s a screengrab from the first day of shooting my film... I did a quick B&W transform in the Lightroom App last week to see how I liked it. That shot had one dark street lamp above the actor’s head, I swear it almost sees in the dark. Here’s another B&W screengrab from that lens... And a colored one from my first day of shooting as well...

All the videos look good, I was just expecting something different.

Idk, so far from what I've seen, I prefer the S16mm look from the older sensor. The new camera has a more modern, video look to it (it looks good and crisp and clean) but the OG Pocket/Micro had a different aesthetic that I prefer. Ugh.

So... are there any plans to release a BMPCCii or BMMCCii with a more similar sensor to the original?

@webrunner5 here's another Yashica shot that's similar to the Nikon just with more saturation...

I like the Yashica. I effed up the first one by pulling too much saturation out of it, but the second one I like. But yeah, I agree that I think the Nikon overall is a better lens. For 25 bucks, they’re both keepers.

For a comparison from a Nikkor lens from the same era... here's a screengrab from a shot taken with the Nikkor 50mm f/2... also a $25 lens...