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Agreed, strength in insight, foresight and community. I have yet to step into Game of Thrones... but it certainly seems to be everywhere. Alrighty... back to the front

Well said JCS. And while I see the grace in your gesture, and though the hordes are not exactly at the border yet, you do realize that there are those who would happily trample the flower you offer them while taking your life in the process? Let's see what the future brings...

- I used the word fucking once. It's the first time I ever have here. I am not the only member here who does this. Fucking relax. - The idea of having my name dragged through the mud on the internet forever in perpetuity by someone like you far from attractive. That you yourself should welcome this is just another example of your extreme narcissism and short sightedness. And, I told you this the last time you attacked me on another thread. - That's right dear Ed David. In all this it only and always comes back to YOU. YOU and your gigantic narcissistic ego. Light the way. Ugh. As an act of good faith, watch this talk and ask yourself are your motives for saving the world the same as these doctors?

100%. And actually, my feeling is that he only returns here to feed his insatiable ego via those who are dimwitted enough to stroke it. And you loathsome bunch know who you are.

You can tell me later if you want that tear. I won't tell anyone

His unfailing politeness which has won your favour in this particular situation is a cheap mask that he employs when it serves him. I'll be sure to shed a tear when you are on the receiving end of one of his unwarranted hissy fits. As far as being unpleasant goes, I'm just calling it like I see it. Just as you and everyone here are. In fact, I'm very nice. Nice. Nice Nice.

Yes you are asking for it. Methinks you actually love it. You are preaching to the choir here. If you need emotional support, there are groups. If not, maybe grab yourself anarchist tattoo and a warm bath...

Let me know if I can get you a blanket and a cup of chai latte for all the suffering you've endured at the sight of watching other less fortunate than you. Stop fucking whining about it here and go and do something about it.

Oh look everyone, Ed came back to tell us how he thinks it should be. Bless his little heart.

Absolutely, JCS. My remark is formed around a sensibility born from my online activity here, and elsewhere - not by any means the measure of a persons character in total - though in that, I sense noticeable divergence between you and our dear David, in spirit. That you should give him the benefit of the doubt is a nod of respect in your favour. But I am somehow left wondering if that would, or could, be returned by he whom you wish to give licence. So I find satire in it, and thus my comment. And though that is a measure of my values, I see the value of your gesture... thank you again for all that you contribute here. Come on Dave... pull it together, man. And yes, we are in the same boat. I want to patent this remark.

Hilarious! Oh the irony.

I used to watch Tony Kaye run his own camera while directing and I think when you have been at it in the way these directors have been, and if you've got good crew, it's got to be a thrill. The closest space to where the dream and reality line up. On the other hand, our dear Herzog is emphatic over the importance of using one's eyes to direct while keeping absolutely clear of video village buffoonery.

Solid info and articulation here Pablogrollan. Thank you! I agree with everything you've mentioned. - "Have you checked how much space is allocated for project files in your drive? I kinda remember you could define how much disk space the folder could use and that by default it was not too much." - If you are referring to the Media Cache folder, which as I understand it, holds the generated files that PPro indexes to the original media files, this folder keeps growing in size (yes I clean this cache periodically to keep things tight) as the project grows with media. Currently there is 80GB of indexed files in the Media Cache folder on an external drive housed in a Thunderbolt enclosure where the media is also located on 4 other drives. Thanks for jumping in Hmcindie. So are you saying that your version of PPro never ever has to 'load' the indexed files after it first creates them? My version of PPro loads the media and then loads the indexed files. It's a long process for such a big project.

'... Designed and engineered to meet RED’s exacting standards for superior image quality,' It should read, 'Designed to get you held by airport security officials around the world.' Apple. Next up, paddle balls.

Thanks for jumping in again Pablogrollan, Grimor. - 'As I understand it, the reason behind indexing is precisely to accelerate the process of opening a project and recalling all the media files associated with it.' - Agreed. If your project only takes 5 seconds to open, and 3 seconds to load all media, then I can imagine that you do not even see the files being indexed as it all happens so quickly. My project file takes somewhere over a minute to open and 20 minutes to load and index 40k media files. I guess I just have to live with this as we don't have anyone else here who can confirm and/ or move the ball up field.

Radiolab.org continues to inform while entertaining. This just up, and it illuminates a somewhat terrifying period that we as a species, have now arrived to. http://www.radiolab.org/story/breaking-news/ Enjoy!

Thanks folks. Let's try this in another way. As I understand, when new material is added to PPro (imported directly into the project without Encore), PPro builds new reference files that are related to the newly imported files. Each time I open my PPro, it always loads the media files and then always begins indexing the reference files it has created. What I want to understand is: when you open your version of PPro on your system, does it ALWAYS continue to load these index files after it ALWAYS loads the media files OR does it only do this ONCE when the new media files are added for the very first time. Someone here must be able to answer this. Nobody using PPro here?

I love you Mercer... I always have.

Yes. But you have to use naturally occurring oxides which the cats should languish in for months.

Can anyone nail this question?

It's not so much about fairness amigo... it's more about giving you a new lease on life. And, there will be no shortage of new girls to make ex-girlfriends out of... so let that be a motivator as well. And so.... Motion passed... 3 new films and the Cinema Gods will reconsider. To the real world with your sorry ass!

Say it with me... 'addicted to the Internet.' Do whatever you have to do and shut the fucking thing off. Looking back you'll thank your version of God that you did. All in favour of banning Mercer?

With 3976 posts, I'm banning you for commenting on this forum until you've got 3 new films under your hat. You can thank me later

Hi Folks, Premiere Pro 2014.2 (8.2.0) on a 2013 Macbook Pro loaded. OSX 10.8.5. I don't want to upgrade. I'm editing a doc with a massive amount of assets that take 20 minutes to load and index. I'm ok with the time it takes to load the media (how could I not be) but the indexing certainly adds to the wait. I would say half the project is ProRes, the other half is LongGOP and H.264. As I think I understand it, it might be that the later 2 are what the hold up is. Correct? Can someone tell me if the newer versions of Premiere Pro still require 'indexing' the files in the same way that 2014.2 (8.2.0) does?

I see your point. My comment was more towards the general idea of that the 'solution' to the imitations we despise are often constrained by business strategies. Moreover, and though I'm no expert, with Steve Yedlin's (and others) revelations on the pixel war etc, it's clear that a decent 1080 camera in the right hands can and will curtail sales in manufactures 'new' markets. Not that your proposed $1200 1080p G85 would actually do that. But still. Just imagine though, as with the seeming end of this 1080 run... that at the end of the 4k run... they never give us the ground breaking do it all 4k camera they truly could have either. We understand that camera manufactures represent a huge conglomerate with an agenda that suits their needs. Continually debating and pining for what we think they should give us takes away from getting out there and just using the shit... and this is where we need to be. Stand up and walk over to the window... there is a whole world of possibilities out there