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- It seems to me that compressed 4k from these cheaper cameras is what the proper 1080 should have looked like from dslr cameras. Furthermore, I can imagine that having a 4k image allows one to soften it to their liking with filters etc and once it gets compressed further to the web it still holds up rather well resolution wise. Sitting a few meters back, for sure folks notice the DR over resolution, but it's still wonderful to have detail! - Yes I've heard good things about the EM5 but my stabilized Canon glass has always served me well and the GH4 seems to have more going for it from what I've been hearing. My main concern with the GH4 is how good will the lowlight ability be with the Speedbooster? If I could get decent 'clean' material at ISO 1600 I think I could live with that. From what I've been hearing, it's a great camera in good light but struggles without it. Does anyone have any examples of the GH4 in low light? The other BIG concern is SOUND. I don't know if there have been any updates of improvements but I've heard that the camera's internal sound capabilities are terrible. Can you or anyone comment on this? - Agreed Chris. Thank you. Let's see what Sony drops tomorrow. In any case, it probably won't ship before my departure date. Thank you again for the input folks.

Here is a very good look at the C100/ C300 and GH4 all cut together by a pro in very real world conditions: https://vimeo.com/100642275. The GH4 really holds it's own considering the price.

Hi Chris, great points all around. Thank you for your insight. Hats off to the Blackmagic folks, let's hope they really deliver with the Ursa mini, this this could really help us all when and if it arrives. I would probably go with the A7rii for its low profile and 4k, BUT I'll be working in a very HOT part of the world and need it to hold up. For sure the C100Mkii is really a solid choice for doc work but it also is big enough to draw a lot of attention on top of how much attention I already draw being a 'foreigner'. So a small cheap 4k package with decent built in tools, the GH4 seems like it could work. Panasonic would have roasted if they had put a 35mm sensor in this. I'm now researching audio options for it.

Hi Bioskop.Inc. Good example. I was aware of the Chinese made B&W app for the iPhone on Sugarman. From what I can recall, the iPhone was used quite sparingly. Ok so.

Another vote for the GH4 + EF-MFT Speedbooster:

Hello folks, I've come to really appreciate this forum and the great wealth of experience held by it's members. Here goes: 1st question: Does anyone have experience with mixing 1080 and 4k footage in a doc film? I've been shooting a film in 1080 (Sony EX1 and Canon 5Dii) and am now moving towards a new camera to continue shooting. I was thinking of going to go with another 1080 camera but when I see the detail of 4k it's hard not to want this. I understand that a story can allow for different combinations of footage and the 'look' that goes with that footage, but I'm curious if anyone here has been down this road? Any examples? 2nd question: I have 2 to pick up a new camera package in the next 10 days and had been carefully considering the A7s, A7rii, C100Mkii and Black Magic Ursa Mini. I had been hoping that the Sony A7rii would be a great all-arounder for both 1080, 4k and stills but it seems there is 'issues' on all front. Plus it seems just too small and fiddly to me, and those lame batteries. Also by the time one adds all the accessories (ie. xlr audio unit, Metabones, cage, batteries, extra charger) to get it functional it starts to add up. However it is nice that it strips down so small. Anyway, last night I began looking at a camera that had previously never interested me at all, the GH4. The EF to MFT Metabones made it a more interesting proposition as I have some decent Canon L glass. The Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 seems a beautiful match although I really with it had IS. I am considering the Canon 16-35mm f4 IS as well. Keeping my 1st question in mind, can anyone make a comment on their experience shooting doc film with the GH4 using the Metabones EF to MFT? Is there a good resource I can study to get a better understanding of how to get the most from this camera? Audio preamp quality? Stills quality? Would you buy this camera? Would you combine 1080 and 4k from the GH4? Does the V-Log REALLY and TRUELY add 2 extra stops of DR? I would probably have gone with the C100Mkii but the image just seems soft after 4k. Looking forward...

Hi Gregor, good to see your work again. Feedback? A couple of things from my side that I try to remind myself of from time to time, more philosophical than anything else: - Goosebumps. We know what they feel like when we get them, so try to take note of when and how you get them. Let this be one of your guides as to what is working and what is not. - Creativity. It can come in waves and cycles, it can't really be forced, it can be conjured. Toms Waits sees it as a kind of 'divine intervention' and there is a story of him driving down the highway in SoCal where he is having an argument with a creative divinity who has just shown up to infuse him while he is driving and not in a position to pull over and note things down. - Mass filmmaking. The web is chalk full of image clips pushing the latest tech and grades. The stuff that really shines for me is when the filmmaker connects with subject and manages to pull something emotional out of the situation before moving on. Like what you did with the Govinda. - Sound. This is 70% of the game at has a deep connection with another primordial part of our brains. All the great travel clips we like strike a decent accord. People will watch a shitty picture with great sound, but not the other way around. - Contra the heard. If you are in this for the long haul, be mindful and push yourself in the most unimaginable creative ways. - Fear of failure. On that, I'll close with a quote from Oscar Wilde: : Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative. Keep on trucking and see you soon...

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr3-sony-has-a-4k-camcorder-prototype-with-same-a7s-sensor-and-internal-4k-recording/

I guess someone has something they really want to prove to us today.

Nice Cinegain Too many hours on the keyboard. Ugh.

You are not sure how I would go about building a microphone adaptor? I would use a mental connection contact point instead of brittle plastic one. "I understand that everything is a compromise..." Is there an echo in here or do you not have anything meaningful to add?

Your welcome Don. I get your point about not damaging the camera hot shoe. But the piece of the XLR-K2M that inserts into the actual hot shoe is made from thin plastic, which to me is just waiting to snap. I understand that everything is a compromise, but I'm getting quite tired of having to come up with bullshit work arounds to overcome the marketing tactics on low end gear.

In the event that anyone cares, I just had a look at the Sony XLR-K2M XLR Adapter Kit with Microphone. The unit's hot shoe mount is made from thin plastic. One hard knock and it'll break. Thank you Sony. Man.

Possible audio solution, but does not provide power to the camera. http://beachtek.com/dxa-connect/

Of course the A7s beats the A7rii at higher ISO, as it should. But It would be really great if we can we can see some 1080 tests that are under ISO 6400.

Does anyone know of a small unit something like this that will provide control for audio plus phantom power a mic AND at the same time supply power to a a7s/ a7rii camera body? http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/962866-REG/beachtek_dxa_slr_pure_passive_dslr.html

Anyone else care to confirm how they feel about the 1080 coming from the A7rii?

Hi Chris, thank you for jumping in again with your insight. I've been shooting a feature doc film on 1080 that is going to broadcast and have been looking for a new camera to continue shooting 1080 with, and the occasional 4k wide etc. The 1080 coming from the A7rii is better than anything previous I have been shooting with. Problem is that I need the camera to hold up in a very hot country and with the reports I'm concerned that shooting 4k on the A7rii will be a problem. I was hoping that that the 1080 on the A7rii would be as least as good as the A7s but it appears that is not the case. My big question here is: how does the image compare between the A7rii and the A7s at ISO under 6400? In other words, is the 1080 image of the A7rii and the A7s comparable (on par) before ISO 6400?

Thank you Don

Anyone know of or willing to put up any examples of the 1080 from both cameras?

Thank you for the reply RenaissanceMan. Is the difference discernible?

Hello folks, does anyone know which camera provides the best full frame 1080 image?

Thank you Mattias.

Can someone point me towards a unit like this that can easily be bolted to a small cage that houses an A7rII while powering it?

Nice! I think the two cameras cut well together. Wonderful to see these great old vehicles. Thank you for putting this together.