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Would still love to see a comparision between GX85 and G7 for lowlight and some shadows free of artefacts. My G6 isn´nt the best performer shadow wise, otherwise beautiful cam. A friend of mine and me did a lighting setup, kinda @andy lee style with beautiful gels, Orange Glow and Deep Blue, two 850w tungsten and one LED. We compared her 600D and my G6. Canon color is still something, even when lit. But loving my G6. Starting to really love black wrap, flags and gels. Great stuff for filming with the lower end bunch of cams. Very exited about the promises of Gx85 or G7 or XC10 or veterans such as F3 and such. So again: -GX85 vs G7 shadows would be great, hey throw in some G6 to show the generation gap and for the fun!:) -Also, dual recording confirmation about internal and external recording please for the GX85. -Another one, is there a grip for extending the height of the grip on the GX85? In the store it felt way too short for me. Met a guy with a Oly EM10ii last week with a beautiful extended grip. Awesome handling, really beautiful! Here is a light from our setup to keep my post a little more interesting. I think BTS is a great thing on this forum, so maybe some lumix and canon faces next time. EDIT: This bad mother or bad boy looks really funky!:)

So, Dali´s mustache anybody? Anybody has it? Liam, did you get your hands on it? Nobody seems to be interested enough to participate in the discussion. I think this looks like a beautiful oddity of software! With benefit for smaller and older hardware and laptops. And, it´s free. The inofficial name "Dali´s mustache" couldn´t be any cooler! Common people, let´s get the odd gem mining started!!

Moderators such as Andy Lee had the right timing and words for moderation up their sleeves. It´s back to sanity thanks to all of you. What more can one say and assume. It has all been said in that super long thread for that matter. It´s all back to sanity. And maybe I am not the only exited soul around here, eager to read about your filming journey, also some techy stuff about the XC10, if that is not too geeky though:) About Italy, your experiences over there, everything! Would be just great!

Hey, why don´t you post it in the classic EOSHD GuessTheCamera fashion in a separate thread. It´s totally worth it! Hope your camera history won´t be spoiling the guessing pleasure though:)

Yeah, Andrew, cannot wait to see the footage! Awesome! XC10 shown an "organic" image in the promotion footage with granddaddy chasing streetrobbers. "..Color-path, codec, nailed to perfection.." sounds so cool. Forum contributor Mercer seems to have healed his GAS with the XC10- we will see:=) Really exited to be on your awesome community! To people thirsty for some more inspiration, just check out this cool EOSHD thread:

Very cool. Then we can grow Dali´s mustaches doing night shifts with grading:) I mean the UI really looks too nice!

Seems interesting, really interesting. No need for cuda, running on weaker systems. Grain can be applied. From what I just read it was also available under the name Dali´s mustache. Now it really is getting interesting. I want my Dali´s mustache!

Hey Liam, Didn´t know there was a tool from Cliptoolz named Color.This tool looks too interesting to not to try it out. Haven´t found any working link to it though. Maybe we should keep this thread alive.

Hey Liam, sent you a PM. cheers

Hey Liam, Cliptoolz is available for download in version 3.0. Version 2.0 used to be for free but is now only available with limited functions.

THIS! is a very hard shot to grade. The examples on this thread show great dedication and good results. But I would say, this is not going to show any color magic. Shot in CineD with further adjustments? I choose a homogenous color palette for a logical balance of tones, to unify different tones and to tame strongly saturated videoish tones, such as from the yellow sign or the red shirt. But still keeping the skincolor logic and plausible within the overall greenish tint.

I meant the newest Shogun update, enabling the Atomos Shogun to take a 12 bit 444 signal and record it:)

With HFR I meant from 60p up to HFR heaven:) You´re right, for a specific F3 solution Odyssey sounds overkill, except from the 444 as Ironfilm stated. Shogun and F3 for 444 is a combination to be tested by camera tech experts, if the 444 makes it into the F3. Other than that Blade or BMD sound good, if I had to estimate by my internet infos:) Absolutely. Would be interesting to know if Shogun gives a 444 out to the F3. So far with its newest update it is 12bit Raw for fs700, fs7, c500 and such. Thanks for pointing BMD and Blade out for having SDI. Some knowledge I already took a chance of sharing in my reply to Jax_rox

SDI and HFR up to 240fps. Atomos Shogun has HFR up to 60fps plus SDI plus 12bit 444 RAW with its newest free! update.

I think, Panasonic really has some mojo going. It is all about the settings and the grading. Besides WB, light, setting of course:). I still like some of the GX7´s footage on vimeo the best of all Panny cams. Maybe it is the GX7 shooters, maybe the absence of adventerous usage of luts, I don´t know. Came across this video below, seemingly shot in 50p. Still looks filmic in a way the beautiful motion picture Bin Jip does. Some beautiful tones and hues going on. If people referred to Japanese preference for greenish tones- this is what I would assume to have been meant. Not 8bit SLOG graded greens of Sony color horrors!:) Out of box a lot of footage looks like a drawing done with crayons. With a certain way of color treatment it can look like a oil painting with a richness to it. Some "hidden" magic in those Pannys. Now, maybe the examples colors below doesn´t fit the bill for some readers but to me it is a beautiful illustration of the Panny mojo. To me even more so than the cool GX7 beach footage with the Ultra Contrast filters, which has been posted on this beautiful forum some longer time ago.

Nice! Enjoy the woods, happy filmin!

Hey Merc, show some mercy and shoot some beautiful lucious greens with the xc10, mixed with some 60p , if time allows. Was kinda thinking about eosm, but g6 has it for me. Next step g7 or gx80, meanwhile renting the xc10. Got hooked to its look when its promo vid came out with the old guy chasing two guys who robbed a girl´s purse. While It takes some effort to grade those Pannys it is definately worth it. Great hybrids with some of the best price-picture quality ratio out there, if not the best for G6 and G7. I think it would be interesting to test A3G3 and such settings more and post some curves and nodes that go along well. cheers

@mercer "You sayin I´m funny???? What you mean, I´m funny. I´m a good laugh to you??????":) Seriously, I enjoy your passion and your great manners and kindness, your awesome contributions and your friendly straightforwardness. And that you keep buying and testing so many cameras- ouch, what have I said:)

@mercer Hey man, this is some beautiful footage, great feeling for light and shapes. Loving how you start and end with the tilt. Some great tones, some of the out of focus areas look like from a painting. Nice concept and effective use of tripod moves. Great job, not easy showing the beauty of foliage and trees. Some parts with the branches look again like from a painting of one of the greats of landscape painting like C.D.Friedrich. The girl is a woman and would spank Bobby´s tush if he would say "This is this and that is that".:) Hey man, I remember your musicvideo you did with FDs. You were another ambassador making me consider the FDs in combination with the G6. Was a good choice listening to you guys!:) cheers

@mercer With the hoop, It is one node making the difference with an almost inverted S Curve. Then putting that layer in layer mode Hard Light in the edit section of Davinci. To make the hula hoop more intense in its luminousity I stapled the same layer on top of one another, four times. I remember your 35-70 video, had super beautiful greens in it:) Have four FDs, the 50mm 1.4 I almost never used, 28mm most of the time, got a 20mm 2.8 like brandnew. Still hestitating to use that beauty cuz of possible scratches. I know it is silly to feel like that:) Oh, and a beautiful, beautiful 28-85mm F4 from Tokina- Andy Lee tip, read about it, bought it.

Hey Grimor, nice footage, especially the parts with the beautiful diffuse light from the front. The lens rendering, the movements look very beautiful! Sometimes Luts produce some lack of luminousity and vibrance and lacking a few nuances of tones as seen at 0.59 or 1.06. Other than that your piece is a good example of the sublte use of it. Around 2.00 looks very beautiful! Also, movement looks really nice. Would love to see what people can do with a GX80 or G70. For both cameras there is not so much footage out there, esp. when compared to GH2 or GH4. G6 is a rather rare beast too on vimeo, most of it graded in a very muted style.

You rascal:) Thank you very much, Merce! My favs are the first lady´s skintones. I was really exited to discover those. Some kind of thickness finally for some daylight skintones. Architecture, landscapes, foliage look nice most of the time on the Pannys. Thanks again, the editing was a lot of fun too. Its pretty cool to have a chinabooster and counteract that with the Extele mode. Also I unashmingly zoomed in big time in post for some parts of the hoola hoop. Great to have some cool talks again! Exited that you purchased a XC10! Tier 1 HD, true clean HD with CLOG, awesome!

Hey Grimor, thanks for helping out with the great rigging infos before, by the way! Great knowledge for me as a rigging novice! Skintones and hoola hoop are different settings, I don´t know which one I used first. I figured the M9 part to get away from green. Did that to an extreme in order to be able to witness an extreme effect when grading later on. So either setting for late afternoon sommer sun and 7000K temperature. It isinteresting how light´s color and temperature change delicately but with substanstial effect for video (at least non raw consumer video that is), that with changing position, movement of clouds and so on. In Davinci one major part is to sculpt some threedimensionalty out of the image, doing that with luma and the three r g b color curves. That is quiet important besides color correction, adjustment of saturation lead by luma, hue, etc. Curves made the differences for my grade, saying curves, because different curves interact and counteract in the way with the most beneficial effect to the image. The A3G3 and/or A3M9 might just provide some beautiful extra color nuances and balance for to do so more successfully. I got a hold of it in the GX80 thread, which became a quiet extensive collection of interesting knowledge or assumptions. Kudos to the posters I mentioned above. Here is some more background info from John:

Hallo video afficiandos! I recently read about @Inazuma´s and @John Matthews´ A3G3 for the GX80 and GX7 in the GX80 thread and @jase´ examples as well. I did some filming with this and another setting about three weeks ago. I´m kind of a Panny fan and have been enjoying the great value I´m getting out of my G6 I bought about a year ago. It was my first step into digital. So when I bought my Panny G6 last April due to bushman films and Andy Lee on Andrew´s forum, I had high expectations. I was exited about the nice HD footage the G6 let me shoot. Bought an editing machine with a 2nd generatoin I7 2600K- great value for starters one year ago. Now of the sudden I had this digi tech at my hands coming from SVHS-C camcorders when I was a teen. Just that Panasonic colors didn´t seem that awesome to me, rather just okay. Last fall I got my hands onto Davinci and a GTX970 and got myself started into the joys of messing around with video color. The G6 held a few surprises for me. I´m surprised by the color "hidden" in that 24mbps 24p codec and even the 28mbps for 50p. A friend of mine wanted me to test some slomo, if codec would hold up for 50p, if she could use Panny Slomo for a kind of a Ballhaus effect for her project. So there is no plotline here. All handheld, with a 28mm FD, WB at 7000K with A3G3 and some A3M9, harsh sun at 4-6pm. Some hoolahoop parts are shot in Extele and the closest framing is an additional larger percentage zoomed in with Davinci. So now I would like to share my share I got out of the Panasonic colors.

These Teddy´s words have been said within his then thought frame of reference. They don´t decribe any good or bad by themselves but gain meaning through the context they can be used within. Or being imagined or fantasized within:) A quote to underline great causes but evil conduct as well. We did okay in the scamming matter, so in that context Zak used an okay fitting quote to say so:)