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Don´t know, might be a tiny bit of wishful thinking involved, nah, GX80 looked great. At 3.50 ungraded it looked the best to me, maybe because of WB or different different light. At the beginning you underexposed the GX80 a lot. To protect the highlights? How many stops did you push it in post? Seems like the lower mids and the darks are affected by strong macroblocks and lack of shades in the darkest parts. Great informative test, even more if you have a chance to give a few background infos about the technicalities of your test. Great vid and work. Thank you. Oh, maybe you should put this vid up in a separate thread, so it gets the attention and discussion the topic is worth of! Maybe in the GX80 thread as well. Cheers

I got it backed up:)

Hey Fuzzy, what kinda system did you set up? Isn´t the GX7 pretty thick for a consumer 8bit codec already? Asking, because Panny G6 most definately is a pleasing experience to me in that regard. Or is it Resolve seeming to do wonders? cheers Hey Liam, alway loving cheap solutions. So much enjoyment out of the fact to get great results with such cute consumer tech, if one knows what he does. Just felt like responding, sorry, this scamming post is really not an amusing matter, but lowfi tech talk really is. Cheers! Oh Dude, happy to see you in the pleasure zone of EOSHD again!:) What you crazy, first selling that G7- so no more 8bit challtenges anymore, now getting rid off the BMMCC. XC10, wow, cool! I think I gonna rent one and grading the heck out of it! Good to feel this gear related exitement in this post! I will be shooting a short with lighting team and one camera assistent in a theater either end of August of September. September would be better, cuz director wants to change the script and hasnt done any casting yet. Crazy film people:)

Forgot to put your quote in I was relating my answer to. Gee, bad etiquettes of mine:)

Hey Merce, for violence has been called in this thread. I am sure, it wasn´t you though. But others have, explicitely or reacting in a humoureous manner towards such comments, conclusions have been drawn about things going beyond the simple question about the identity of a scam. Degrading, concluding comments about persona and his contributions. Why were a lot of people enjoying his past posts until one week ago and now all of the sudden put peer pressure up as an exuse for such appreciation. I tell you what you posters have been to me in this thead: too long involved this thread´s dynamics and getting carried away by it. I don´t think it should be up to assumptions about maturity but most of all and definately up to justice to solve this case. In court you don´t hear the judge calling susptects names. I understand that this is no court. But then again, this thread should have no meaning other than being a warning not to use WU and not to buy stuff from the scamming account. By the way, Merce, little sad not to see anymore beautifully filmed greens with a 8bit codec camera anymore.- You know, I could assume you´d be suspicious about my nice last sentence towards you in my latter sentence- This is the kind of paranoia and angst and rage coming out of the last twenty pages of this thread. But no justice. Let´s leave it to the cool headed and fairly approaching institutions of justice. "This is this and that is that" as Bobby DeNiro said, I´ve said this before, didn´t I? cheers, Marty not Scorsese:)

You guys, why not being cool like Toshiro Mifune for a while. There are possibillities of legal actions that can be taken after a scam. But beforehead of a seemingly forced act of a confession and seeming contractions in defense, there have been accusastions and connotations of all kinds. Case is a 600 to 1000USD fraud. Now it´s up to the institutions which professionally and legally are empowered to take action and being in charge of investigation and its consequences for the case, the victims, the doer or doers of the crime and a conclusion. Why not close the thread for now as it should have been after the WU scam has been named and before the name calling and aggressive comments have been started.

There might not be any others besides the beautiful posts of Ebrahim here on Eoshd. That´s plenty of beautiful free knowledge for interested readers. Now watching Zach´s newest video and then going to bed. Best to you guys

Hey Merce, I admire your enthusiasm for grading and the look and flavor of an image. That discipline in itself is a technical side open to sometimes flawed but interesting approaches and results, especially with 8bit footage. I read a lot of contradicting stuff from almost any forum member on here, may they be pros or not. Heck I almost bought a RXII- one of you better give me my beautiful money back, if so:) So ES being not right on one or few other topics does not discredit his whole body of work, which is an inspriring example of great history of quality posts. It was him besides only a very few others pointing out zero artificial sharpness of CLOG. It was him promoting peaceful communication with one another all the time! Him, Andy Lee, JCS and Maxotic, then Oliver Daniel, AaronChicago are the guys brought me here to finally join Andrew´s beautiful forum as a member. So I do not accept the claim of righteousness for demanding a ban because of some faulty aspects of very few forum posts. A lot of tech testing is not without faults, neither the implications from them. Ebrahim has left a great amount of knowledge. We can appreciate that and be thankful for that. And we should not get drained down to the ugly position of dissing his beautiful achievements. If he is guilty of the scam, his scam will not be forgotten without apologies, honesty and compensation, but most of all honesty. Like the great Bobby DeNiro JR. said in the Deerhunter:"this is this and that is that" (I call him Bobby since he has been calling me Marty:) cheers, Marty cheers, Marty:)

Hey Tarik, middle part with outdoor shots looking good with good framing and image choices, fitting rhythm as well. Parts before and after don´t have that. Maybe let somebody else edit with a fresh look on the footage and without too much adimiration for the material but a good hand to pick the right parts, in the best order with the most fitting length. Also the yellow of the girls face is just yellow without a motivated reason to be so, neither does it have a look adding to the depth or appeal or intensity or general quality of the image. Other than that, good effort. Keep it up! Oh, and maybe you wanna check out Andy Lee´s posts on the Panasonic G7 for knowledge about the best profile and settings:

Both of you, beautiful statements. Can´t we leave it this way, please. Either proof or not from either of the sides in a calm and polite manner but no more goofy or insulting statements about forum members.

Well, guys, I think, what me, Ed, mercer, Zach, Ebrahim and a lot of us have in common here on Eoshd is the enjoyment of community, encouragement. Even if I might learn some wrong stuff once in a while regarding the technicalities of codec, exposure, resolution vs sharpness, etc., as long as it can engage us to do filming, it´s an achievement in itself already. Most of us seem to succeed in that regard. There are plenty of well shot pieces in the screening area of this forum. Would be cool, if the forums "usability feng shui" would lurk us more into posting in that category.

Hey:) I´ve been reading it from the start and expressed my dislike about aggressive speech before twice in this thread. Essence of my perspecitve is, there is no possiblitiy to find the doer of the scam. There is all necessity to avoid aggressive or chauvinistic messages. The facette of trying to deconstruct a possibly constructed internet persona named Ebrahim is done in a mob mentality. Proving someone guilty of something can be done in a manner guilty of far worse human attributes.

Hallo people, let me speak from my perspective. I don´t see a way of finding the doer of this deed. I assume, some of the world wide forum members involve aspects about themselves as a result of their imagination rather than fact. That can be a beautiful thing, if imagination becomes reality some day. Maybe the human being behind the beautiful Persona Ebrahim is not a millionaire´s son nor his Grandfather/Uncle/Father but rather enjoying the imagination of being one. That is legit and part of the private sphere, nothing to brag about, but rather being happy about his knowledgeable and warmhearted contributions. Let me tell you, I´m NOT a millionaire´s son. Do you believe me?:) In court nobody has to be called names. This is no courtroom, but still we should avoid calling names. Like another forum member said, behind the Eoshd account with the name of Ebrahim is a real human being. If that is not going to be respected, I wish this thread not only to be closed but fishy, insulting contributions to be deleted as well. Could be a 77 year old from Spain is pretending to be 21 year old pretending to be a millionaire´s son, nephew, grandson from Egypt. That would be beautiful thing, having a 77 year old taking the opportunity to contribute awesome posts is such a beautiful "Ebrahim´s manner". It would be a tragedy, if that human being would be in need of a scam. If the doer of this deed can be found, the doer is going to be hurt financially and possibly regarding honour well enough. Any other hurting beyond that is only an opportunity of showing an ugly mob mentality. cheers

This is a shame. I posted above: aggressive comments should be deleted, thread should be closed for comments but left on the forum as a warning about Western Union transfers. I was scammed before twice, once by an ebay seller for 100USD. Aggressive messages of people, esp. who have not been put into harms themselves by the matter, should not be accepted, neither should threats of aggression of any kind. Shame about that verbal misfortune. I hope these aggressive words will be deleted by Andy Lee or other moderators. It is not up to anybody to assume. Of course it can be helpful to warn people about possible risks or scams, like the poster of this thread did. So let´s just leave it that way and not post aggressive threats nor assumptions nor insults.

Exellent statement. I think it is a pity that lighting sometimes is one of the most scaring aspects. It´s not scary at all though, it´s just scaring the heck out of us ambitious video lovers some times for no good reason. But it really is not such a big deal, if one has the chance to rent for little money or even buy or DIY. Or utilizing natural light. It is really worth it for the fun of creating or sculpting an image with light, enjoying the process of creating and the possiblities of images and expressions.

Hey John! Thank you for your answer! So that means with A3G3 one gets closer to the yellows and greens and further way from the reds and blues? 5% IRE in FCPX would be values 64 and 960 in Davinci? I think colorwise the GX80 should be really nice when graded well and of course shot well with A3G3:) Also, on G6 I shoot Natural with color 0 and anything else in -2. It´s not a look I adore out of cam but grades nicely to my eyes. Filmig with not too much saturation to avoid color clipping. Not too low contrast and saturation either to avoid "plactic" and false colors, as far as I would understand. By the way, do you know if the GX80 can record internally when having a HDMI out to a small monitor solution? best regards, Marty

Thank you very much! I have two layers, one with 7 nodes, another one on top duplicated and in Hardlight layermode- with two of the nodes altered. I think one of the main things is one of the nodes of the lower of the two layers as seen on the Davinci screenshot below. Also attached a framegrab of a duck with colors I was really exited about to find in that 50p 28Mbit codec, with additional twixtor like slomo added! cheers and regards

Hallo, for now you guys, just don´t do business with anybody asking for Western Union! To make statements about beating anybody up does not belong in this forum, as far as my opinion goes. To have spent a few hundred dollars on a scam is unfortunate. Aggressive statements from commenting audience of forum members are unfortunate as well and not necessary. To say: XYZ never said anything interesting about cameras and filming anyways is just a unfortunate facette of this unhealthy conduct. The wealth of contributions of the Persona Ebrahim is well regarded. I suggest to leave this topic as a warning for potential Western Union buyers, close it for futher comments and delete the aggressive statements. Hopefully the real Ebrahim is doing well and not in need of scamming. cheers

Hallo John! loving your findings. Went for the A3G3 and A3M9, but on my G6, outside in the late afternoon sun with WB at 7200 Kelvin, shot at Natural all -2. The image out of cam looked so lala. I don´t know if the Canon FDs "attract" IR polution. The 28mm definately has not its strengths in strong sunlight compared to the 20mm 1.7 Pana Lumix lens. Paired the FD with a China Booster. But what amazed me was what kind of color I got from grading the footage, as always with my G6 I am amazed by the "hidden" color in that 24Mbit codec. Curiosity enough, I shot 50fps for slomo, so only 28Mbits for twice the frames per second. Still, codec holds up amazingly well. So can you explain your reasoning behind the A3G3 a little bit more. I don´t think I completely understood the technical aspects you were explaining. By the way, grade is from the 28Mbits for 50p, so almost half of the 24p bitrate per frame! Thanks a lot for your awesome contributions!

The 20mm is a super high resolving lens, maybe 3rd place or better of the Panasonic Leica lenses, after the 25mm 1.4 and 42.5mm 1.2. Some curiosity, it seems to be 1/3 EV brighter than it´s 1.7 Fstop. So it´s a super compact, high quality bright lens with slow autofocus for photo and not useable AF for video. I myself think about the 15mm 1.7 Panny Leica. On the 4K crop it would give me a classic moderate/normal wideangle FOV for video with very fast AF.

Parts of the test scene seem in favor for the Olympus, others for the GX85. Moire is absent, which is great of course. The other Panny cams have higher 1080p resolution than GX85 though. So maybe better 1080 60p on a G7 then.

Dpreview tested 1080p resolution to be softer than Oly EM5 II and much softer than the other Panny cams. Would like that not to be the case and prefer dpreview having done a mistake:) http://***URL removed***/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr29_0=panasonic_dmcgx85&attr29_1=panasonic_dmclx100&attr72_0=1080&attr72_1=1080&normalization=full&widget=369&x=0.5043620501635768&y=-0.180752453653217

Hey Mercer, thanks a lot! Used two Mini DV cams with interlaced SD resolution: Canon XL1 and Panasonic DX1. The two other cams were Panasonic G6 and Canon 70D. HD footage was cropped at the sides to 4:3 ratio. Edited and graded in Davinci.

Shutter shock happens with the mechanical shutter within the range of 125-250 shutters. It is absent when using the electronic shutter. GX8 and GX85 seem to be the first Lumix cameras not to exhibit this unwanted feature when in mechanical shutter mode.

Well, talk about amateurish look and apect ratio. Film friends of mine and I did a 4 cams challenge, 2 DV camcorders and 2 HD hybrids in the mix, 4 to 3 ratio. Was fun to do without planning other than having four people going crazy on our actress and filming like little devils. Mixing SD and HD cams wasn´t exactely my idea, neither having four cameras, but I decided to agree on it and I´m happy we did it that way. So old school look is not only cool for the look but also for the way how to approach filming. Really loved the approch of our lowfi project. In the end I had 1hour of footage at my hands to sculpt what became 3min in the final result. Matching the cams and grading was fun too. The beautiful autumn day helped the colors quiet a bit.