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Let us all not waste any time with getting into unfriendly arguments. Why feed a negative vibe with another person, feeding it to eachother! There is plenty opportunity to not to get involved in using unkind words. There are plenty of kind and interesting people communicating on this forum. Please, everyone, let´s all keep our act together. Citing Steve Yedlin, is a good start imho. Hey, don´t make me test myself to film a blank wall with my S1. 🙂 So I am very grateful for findings and fantastic insights along the way.

Would love to hear your opinion about the GH6! @Attila Bakos External recording with the Fuji is fine though? Thanks for your findings and contributions!

@John Matthews GH5II in GX80 size please, with it´s absence of digital oversharpening, 10bit 4k60, S16 mode and all the other goodies. Thank you! 🙂

First part I wholeheartedly agree. We should all contribute much more to a respectful interaction! Really! Second part I don´t agree with. The artefact is one which was immanent in the GH5 as well, shooting VLog-L in 4K 10bit 422, 150Mbit LongGop. It occured on skin f.i., larger homogenous areas of pink blotches. So it might not be a problem specific to 10bit 420 h265 with 200Mbit for open gate on the S1 but of the UHD 422 flavours as well. Would be interesting to know, if the artefacts appear in 10bit 422 UHD as well on the S1 if shooting for either SDR or HDR.

With pixel count being 24MP it does not seem to me it might be the same sensor as used in the Sony A7iii, Lumix S5/1/1H in its different alterations, this time with PDAF like the A7iii. What the all have in common is rolling shutter of around 21ms in FF and 4K 60p for S35 crop only. I like the form factor though and swivel screen and full HDMI. Maybe I will trade my S1 in for it and finally give the great sensor some good running for its money finally. I only used the S1 on three small paid gigs over the last two years, for a short and as C cam for another short. I have no personal connection with this camera. With my Gx85 it´s the opposite. It is dear to my heart. Maybe the S5ii will be a good substitute for my S1. Just that 22ms rolling shutter is a bit unpleasant compared to filming with the GH5 with its 15ms. 15ms is good enough for me, 22ms sometimes a bit challenging. So with a better rolling shutter the S5ii would be a no brainer for me, if image quality is the same as S1 in theoriy and practical use and abuse as well.

My last idea regarding the artefact. 4K 422 codec has less pixel count to carry, around 8MP vs around 24MP for one. This specific variante of 150mbit usually punches above its weight. 8MP resolution in 422 and HLG might cure the digital artefact. Maybe the h265 open gate variante does the same in HLG. Nuff said from my side on this artefact. Would test it myself, but not interested at the moment in doing so. Dynamic range in HLG though a bit less than VLog is no slouch, just a very different curve. HLG on the GH5 was about the same as VLog L. Sage had a nice conversion lut for the Gh5, transforming HLG to VLog L. He also offers some awesome conversion luts to Arri colour science. @Sage cheers

@FHDcrew Would love a F3 "challenge". Not a friend of that word in this context. Rather a guide to do some fun and exiting regarding filming and watching. Would love to to a F3 parade or challenge or whatever one might call it. We can do another FHD one, internal 8bit 709, which i would find challenging and worthwhile. If my tagged Eoshd F3 companions don´t chim in, it´s not gonna happen anyways. So start your enginges, fellow Cinealta F3 friends. 🙂

I will. You could grab one yourself and film FHD with a crew.:) I would still love a challenge. It would provide us with more beautiful pieces to watch.

You could give HLG a try. Would it be displayed technically correct already on an HDR display just like an 709 profile would be on a SDR one? Maybe try both 422 and 420 and see if it does any good. Btw, I get both of your points and find them both equally worthwhile. No need to get unkind towards eachother about it imho.

I will, if David and other Eoshd F3 owners join for a bit of challenge fun! @IronFilm @TheRenaissanceMan @Josue Nunez @Triste Han @BenEricson 🙂

The F3 has one of the best posts vs image quality ratios on youtube. It keeps me looking for new pieces showing off the magic coming from this beauty instead of using my own F3. It´s a lazy way of enjoying this camera. It´s an easy way to do so 🙂 Is´nt it:

The image shows a full size hdmi. Other than that it might not offer anything else in addition to the MKI.😂

No true fix but rather workaround by colour selection and changing the pink into the surrounding colour. I had the blotches one someone with reddish skin. With my own S1 I recognized some atomic reds and pinks under certain circumstances. I like the Lumix cams the best with tungsten light or light at that colour temperature. I don´t like them at daylight that much.

Give it full HDMI please.:)

These spots sometimes appeared on skin filming in VLog with the GH5 in 4K 10bit 422 Long Gop in harsh daylight I didnt reshoot, testing All Intra, though, because I saw the problem only later in post. You could do a test open gate 10 bit 420 vs 16 to 9 10bit 422 and see if the later shows the same artefacts. If so, 6K+4K yikes!

Want to get another GX85 for photography, using two of them, one with a wide angle and the other one with a tele lens. They are still not dirt cheap though. I snapped a GH4 a few weeks ago with nine c-mount primes, three c-mount zooms, a pretty good cheap tripod, adapters, a 64GB SD and the super nice and small 14mm Pana pancake lens. All for 400EUR. I call that a steal! Now I can test, if it has the same fun colour response in grading as my beloved G6 had but with its might 100 and 200mbit codecs! A great credo which @Mattias Burling also used to stand up for on this forum: oldies are sometimes goldies. Would love to see some video goodnes from the A7s 50mbit codec though @bjohn 🙂

S5 with full HDMI, internal ND, zero (-1) option for sharpening like S1H and OPLF filter. Or a S1H with internal ND but with SDI, since it´s already a biggie and the BS1H has it already. Btw, my vote for Blackmagic on quality of videos posted on youtube in comparison to current Sony, Pana, Canon and Fuji videos. I enjoy my BM Micro more than my S1, which is far from being the perfect camera.

@IronFilm Won´t give you a like for your post to not be part of the exitement which pushes prices up again for this gem. Well, guess you do get one from me. Shhh.:) I treated myself with a BMPCC OG. Planning on using it as a fun cinema verité camera. Came with an old battery but otherwise like brandnew and accompanied by the pretty Lumix 20mm 1.7 MK2, all for 250 EUR!!

Merry Christams, fuzzy and everyone! Well done!

Darn, I should have gotten a GH6 at these prices! But fantastic deals were gone quickly like a 1649 price from the seller plus 400 cashback from Panasonic. 1249 would have been perfect! Then I waited two or days or so. Duh. All I could find was around around 1700 after cashback. After holding a GH4 in my hand again yesterday, which i bought a few weeks ago, I adore its built and feel, akwardly moreso than the Gh5. What it shows me I dont like my S1 too much. If only the S5 had a full Hdmi. Gh6 has it. Btw, the Walimex at offer back then was the 14mm for S35, not a FF variante. Anyway...

Well done! @Chrille Edit, rhythm is on spot, fitting concept, to the point, just like the artist. Pleasure to watch and listen to.

That's what I have been thinking. But then again, saved some money.:) The 14mm F2.8 is S35 though afaik. The one I was using was nothing to write home about. Mushy below F8 and not close to resolving 4k at any f-stop. Maybe my sample was a baddy. Now that Zeiss ZF 15mm is a tasty one or ZE for EF lovers of eletric contacts, ZF is hundred percent mechanical. Beautiful super wide angle gem.

None of the above interests me fortunately, so I can save my money! 🙂 I remember some of the Walimex / Samyand deals a few months ago, like each lens costing from 150 to 250 EUR! That was a fantastic deal for sure!

Sounds kinda unappealing. The video comparison I saw looked impressive though. GH6 held onto color and resolution extremely well under lowlight at high isos, better than GH5s. But being more mushy than a GH5 wouldnt cut it for me in anyway. Would rather go with a GH5II then, providing an extra S16 mode, pixelperfect HD 100p, 4K60p in 10bit 420, and a true zero sharpening option for the "organic image".

yikes. I would love to hear @deezid with his observation on this. Thanks for pointing out. Gh5 got mushy from iso 1600 on. Not a pretty sight.