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That's what I have been thinking. But then again, saved some money.:) The 14mm F2.8 is S35 though afaik. The one I was using was nothing to write home about. Mushy below F8 and not close to resolving 4k at any f-stop. Maybe my sample was a baddy. Now that Zeiss ZF 15mm is a tasty one or ZE for EF lovers of eletric contacts, ZF is hundred percent mechanical. Beautiful super wide angle gem.

None of the above interests me fortunately, so I can save my money! 🙂 I remember some of the Walimex / Samyand deals a few months ago, like each lens costing from 150 to 250 EUR! That was a fantastic deal for sure!

Sounds kinda unappealing. The video comparison I saw looked impressive though. GH6 held onto color and resolution extremely well under lowlight at high isos, better than GH5s. But being more mushy than a GH5 wouldnt cut it for me in anyway. Would rather go with a GH5II then, providing an extra S16 mode, pixelperfect HD 100p, 4K60p in 10bit 420, and a true zero sharpening option for the "organic image".

yikes. I would love to hear @deezid with his observation on this. Thanks for pointing out. Gh5 got mushy from iso 1600 on. Not a pretty sight.

And the cp2s look ugly on mft bidies compared to the elegant meikes or veydras. @PPNS Btw, how is your short doing, which you did with your bmpcc4k meike combo?

I´ve seen this test how the GH6 excels in holding onto colour under various conditions. It beats a GH5s by far in lowlight regarding colours, also providing much higher resolution in these super lowlight conditions. @Attila Bakos has recognized the Fuji XH2s having a lack in colour resolution, blurring the red channel. It seems indeed that the GH6 sensor and image pipeline is something extraordinary and very impressive. Like @deezid stated, it needs a true zero sharpening setting though, as footage is a bit on the crispy side, like Lumix S5 or S1, needing a -1 in Vlog, like the S1H is providing. For me it additionally need Prores LT, also Prores for UHD, not just Cine 4K. Plus it need a S16 crop mode like the GH5. Then I would be willing to pay good money for it.

Now I have to trust this thumbnail.:) @Emanuel The fellows mouth is forming a strong vowel with an important message on his wettened lips.😅

Well John, dear Gx85 fellow friend:), congratulations! @John Matthews Afaik the Gh6 is resolving more detail and is holding onto colour much better in super lowlight than a GH5S, meaning it could be a next level colour wonder. Two things keeping me away from it, no true zero sharpening as the Gh5II actually provides. That's big, making the Gh5ii a compelling choice. Secondly, it does not provide the additional 1.4x Super16 crop mode as the Gh5 does. I think the Gh6 should excel regarding crop modes, since it allows open gate up to 60p. It should be the prime machine of crop modes all up to 60p, full height 1to1, kinda like S16 fullwidth x full width, 5to4, Super16 4to3. Prores LT! Third point actually, is the price, though you get a whole lotta image, convinience and overall quality for the money. So how much did you pay, 1579 minus 400 cashback, making it 1179 EUR? Where did you get that deal???😄

I would rather like to hear from @A_Urquhart shooting experience with the FS7 and hopefully the FX30 than hearing myself bitch about how the Lumix S series is equally as compelling (or for my needs possibly slightly as I own the S1). So again, sorry to you, dear forum fellow. Looking forward to be reading more of your findings. Best and have a great weekend!

Indie shooting at its best? That´s a stretch. No offense. It´s a good test nonetheless! I like your enthusiasm of course, you know that, my friend.:) @Emanuel I would not necessarily watch a 90min lowlight test or get sucked into its magic, instead of being captured by beautifully crafted indie flix, realized with the craft, skill and art of many people and departments, not the least by stunning cinematography? Don´t get me wrong. Marks Test is a great display of meaningful testing Slog3 at ISO 2500 but not an indie flick nor short nor essay or cinema verité. 🙂

I think, Canon and Sony get a lot of hyperbole. Besides that, FX30 looks like the most interesting Sony video DSLM. Looking forward to see what people achieve with this 2300 Euro machine. cheers

Never seen such a thing. You are nuts @kye @IronFilm to state otherwise. Now back to topic please to the tasty and mighty Lumix S series.😂

All solid points! Congrats on your Netflix projects. Didnt mean to bug you. All good. Sorry if i offended you. Not my intention. Have a kewl day! See you around and cheers ☺

Awesome @Matt Kieley Makes me want to reanimate some of my analogue shelf treasures. Oly RC35 a beauty to hold and fun to operate, a Fuji comoact with a EBC? coated 24mm to whatever zoom. Too lazy to check and hopefully not too lazy to use. 😅

Hehe, the FX "excels" no more in adapting S35 Cine lenses than an Eos M, despite it being the better sensor and codecs and processing in a box.😅 It's pretty easy actually to get my point: the S line from Panasonic offers Super35 AND full frame. So your exclusive spec sheet race is utter hyperbole imo. It is okay with me but it is also super okay with me to point that out. It's all good. I leave it at that. You are exited about this camera and that's cool. Varicam Vlog was a force on Netflix narratives. Slog 3 in the Venice then? U tell us if you enjoy to and find time to. Btw i own the S1 not the S5, I need that full Hdmi.;)

Give it a try.:) In theory the bitrate would be the greatest asset imo. I don't know if the signal out of the C100s Hdmi is of superiour quality though. There is a test on vimeo. The C100ii does not offer SD btw if I remember right.

C100 MKII is tiny if you use it barebones. Fun camera to use, great image, codec for grading is much weaker than the 8bit 4k 100mbit flavour from Panasonic in the Lumix GX85 or G7, dynamic range is better though. A GX85 with CLog would be perfect or a C100II with a 50Mbit codec.:)

@A_Urquhart You posted quiet often about the Sony, even three times in direct row, stating some false superlatives, like the Sony being the best for cinelenses.😅 How is it the best when an Eos M for 150 EUR isn't worse in that regard.😂 S5 also has an additional XLR module!😅 Slog3 out the FX30, we will see how that goes. The so called All Intra has to prove itself. It was prone to artefacts in the FS7. So far VLog on the S series and the Long Gop are proven image quality leaders rivaling or bettering a C70. VLog has been a darling for Netflix. But let' s assume both cameras offer equal image quality. Enjoy your Sony and share your footage, if you find the time. I will do the same with my Lumix S1. Oh hold it, THAT one records unlimited 10 bit, has full Hdmi and costs around 1200 Eur on the used market. New challenger here. But i get it, fx30 is a nice cam with timecode and af. That's good for those who need it. Anyone else look elsewhere and save a lot of money. Anyway, please let's not repeat ourselves and if so not with falslihoods like exclusive "professional audio" or "best for cinema glass". I think the Fx is an interesting camera but let' leave out the false superlatives, especially when you can get a used Lumix S1 for 1200 Eur. Thank you!

Oh wow, never seen an artfact mess like this before! 🙂 @John Matthews

Not necessary to compare the FX30 to a S5, as the S5 is a full grown hybrid offering Full Frame goodness in 10bit video and for photography as well, also offering a variety of features like anamporhpic modes, which the FX30 does not offer. The S5 offers Full Frame and you can go down to Super 35 as well, cropping to the sensor size of the Sony FX30. The sensor of the S5 is more than twice the size of the FX30, still it only being almost half the price of it. For people who don´t need AF and timecode, the S5 is the better option imo. Best bang for buck! Better image quality, cheaper wide angle options, full frame and full image cirlce on cheap wide angle lenses, cheap adapters for taking advantage of it, same rolling shutter in its optional Super 35 crop mode. No brainer. Back to you FX30 fans, I will hold on to myself and stay calm. FX30 looks appealing due to AF and full HDMI. 🙂

On the S5 I can user cheap adapters for vintage lenses in Full Frame. With the FX30 one would need to buy focal reducers like speedbooster, which cost 3 to 5 five times as much, also no focal reducers for Konica afaik. You can use ur ultra high quality Super35 cinema glass , which the S5 excels like other great cameras. But micro hdmi for my use of work is a no go unfortunately. But the FX30 is a no go too as a hybrid due to lack of evf and mechanical shutter. So I would still rather buy two Full Frame S5 cameras with its special Super35 mode instead of one S35 Fx30 camera.

Awesome! Gonna watch it later. I also got a very old passion project close to picture lock. Very close I hope.:) It's astonishing to realize how much time some personal projects take, kinda like some other seemingly simple things in life.

Except from AF and 120p 4k, the Lumix S5 seems a much better deal. Half the price, equal if not better image quality, Full Frame with optional Super 35 mode. EVF. Rolling shutter is the same between the two with S5 in S35 mode. But somehow I find the FX30 appealing. It' design is cool looking. So hdmi is full hdmi? The S5 would have been a no brainer for my needs if it had full Hdmi.

One awesome thing about the Digital Bolex seems that its sensor is in 1.33 aspect ratio, just like m43. Don´t know how that translates into its video mode ratios. I got that from an image of the sensor off the web. I turned out to be in 4 to 3 ratio.

I love the HD from the G6 and even moreso from the G7, GX85 not so much. Good thing is, I could reactivate my G7 for some HD goodness. G6 has quit working, good old trusty plastic fantastic. 🙂