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I imagine, Panasonic could cash in with a GXTen, just delivering what the GH5 does but in its beautiful form factor and with its built quality. Except, the back dial lost its function after two years of usuage and I read I am not the only one with the back dial issue. Imagine a GX Ten with great PDAF and 10bit GH5 quality and a swivel screen. It would sell like hot cakes I imagine.

I´m on the fence of selling my S1 and getting a GH6. But I cannot afford to risk possible streaking on a paid gig. So still on the fence and maybe even more rightfully so, if battery life seems so underwhelming. I wouldnt want to expect @kye to take the risk and let us know, if his then GH6 would have at least the battery life of his GX85 in DGO and 60p mode. That would be the absolute minimum I would like to accept from a camera like the GH6.

That they left out Prores for UHD and anamorphic modes plus Prores LT in general is really akward. Internal NDs would have helped this camera on the number 1 spot for mirrorless video. The latter cannot be changed. A GH6Cinema could change that. But by then a S2H will rock the market. If Sony is clever they give the A7s3 a mode without noise reduction. Until that does not happen, i would consider the Gh6 more compelling due to its "organic" low light image, which the Gh5 does not provide btw.

How about the Meike Cine primes for MFT? They come as 12, 16, 25, 35, 50 and 85, with a Tstop of 2.2.

I rewatched the video on the phone and my desktop. I still must say, it looks fantastic to me. Exellent colour response and separation. Best I have seen from any camera under natural light on youtube other than Red or BM. I don´t look for Arri videos. 😉

Yeah, the GX85 is a lovely little cam. If it only had the awesome 10bit 150mbit codec and no mush but noise in low light. I love to hold and to film with it. Even more than that I love taking pictures with it.

I think, the cheapest Canon nifty fifty 1.8 you can find on Ebay would be a great lens to enjoy. Classic plastic fantastic! But you already know this. Still, never hurts to get some approval from your forum nerd friends. 🙂 @mercer The 35mm F2 with image stabilization is a lens you already own, right? I am a great sucker for 40mm focal length. Had a 42mm on some of my back then cheap rangefinders like Oly 35RC or 40mm Ricoh 500G. Loved the 20mm pancake on my Lumix GF1, which was equivalent to 40mm on 135 film. Maybe get the Canon version of a Tokina 28-70 2.8 ATX, but not the Pro Angie like version but this one. Ken Rockwell gives it a nice and indepth review: https://www.kenrockwell.com/tokina/28-70mm-f28.htm

That's good. Would be dull if there was only one taste. @MrSMW I liked the lush colors while still providing subtle hues and the choice of grading in harsh light to go a bit over board with the highlights. Everything has a plasticity and physicality to it. But that is just what makes it sing to me. I love the look, the color palette and how colors still stay intact within this demanding grade. It reminds me of one of my favorite GH1 videos:

Sorry, dear Don, but it's so expensive, that i must laugh seeing the price point. 😊

The Evf is pretty sweet too. S1H still out of reach for me moneywise. Had almost gotten one with Smallrig cage and handle, three og batteries, Sigma adapter, all for 2200 eur. But then i figured my S1 should be plenty. Still using it without a cage and with one battery only, because i feel too stingy to invest in the camera.

Have been thinking to do the same. But then, battery life, image quality, 10bit, Ibis, full image circle on my beautiful Canon FDs still make me keep it. But boy, I dislike the menues (Gh5 menues were perfect for me) and i dont enjoy the cumbersome swivel screen. What are you getting instead? @Tim Sewell

Could be a fun lens for low profile filming. Manual focussing via cam, interested to see how that feels like. The cinematographer above put that lens to great use.

Wow, sounds like great things to come. Though the lack of all intra or prores for anamorphic modes is a pity. Did they also exclude Prores for UHD 3840x2160? I could'nt find it in the list. Would be akward. Prores LT please. 444 for the HD modes if possible.

Muaha, they look exactly the same! Thanks a lot for you work! @hyalinejim

Heck, great image, this guy got out of his GX85! Great montage and camerawork as well. He shot with the native 25mm 1.7 and the pancake zoom 12-32. I heard good things about both lenses.

Hmm, love the image and the colours coming out of this thing. Good battery life, no overheating, full hdmi and with 15ms or sub 15ms rolling shutter, this could be an appealing camera to me. This footage below is my favorite so far from all the new bunch, including Z9, GH6, XH2s, R5, which I´ve seen on youtube. Looks like a BMMCC or BMPCC on roids. 🙂

Bad battery life! Oh, that defeats the purpose of a DSLM for me. My compact LX15 has bad battery life and I don´t enjoy having it with me based on that. I like to believe @deezids observations reagarding the cinematic quality of the output without artificial sharpness and mushyness at higher iso. Youtube tests show, it holds much better on to colour and resolution than a GH5s in lowlight. CineD compared its latitude with a A7IV. So low light and organic output should be a big plus. If battery life would be the same as from my GX85 I would consider it okay. Lack of cropping modes is a lost opportunity though such as lack of stellar battery life. GH5II looks interesting with its improved processing and the internal 10bit 4K60p, still providing the delicious crop modes and the great battery life. The combination of faster readout and IBIS still works significantly better for me when it comes to moving the camera. So I was putting hopes on the GH6 as it ticks a lot of boxes with its supposely great "organic" image and stellar readout and IBIS. Well, good reason to practice more on my S1.

Pansonic should bring out a GX Ten with 10bit. A true 10bit pocket cam in a GX85 body with decent battery life and IBIS. Please give it an optional 1.4 crop for Super 16 lenses.

Update for Prores RAW and Prores mode for more resolutions is out now. Akward, they don´t seem to support Prores for UHD modes if i got that right. So how do you like your GH6, image in Dual Gain mode, battery life, etc? @hyalinejim

I didnt talk about the bird. I enjoyed seeing it though. 🙂 @kye

Awesome! The screenshots look astonishing. I would love to see the same grading in the video. I remember how DP posted awesome screenshots from a F3 shortfilm but then the director pushed for a different grade, which was fine but not as beautiful as the one coming from the DP. Really looking forward to your video and hopefully I will get into motion myself. I am still stingy on replacing my broke mini SDI cable. 😆

I never got into the intuitive side of grading again as much as I did with the G6. It was a camera which only lacked one thing to me, a 100mbit codec without noise reduction. I have been saying this a dozen times on the forum, I know. 🙂 Still got my G6 laying on my desk, like a good spirit, though it gave up working. The 28 nFD is a gem of a lens, especially in lit scenarios but also outside. The G6 not haveng IBIS made me film very carefully. I might pick up my almost unused G7 and give it some run. Kinda exiting thought!

@kye It´s maybe Neo- Hitchock which evokes the master. I get really sucked into the images, due to use of perspective, focal length, how you chose your camera position and angle. It looks meticulously done. I could tell or imagine a story or scene for each of these shots. F.i. shot number five is graphicaly perfect, how the arc gets pulled down from top to toe by the lens and position. It evokes a sense of being there. The perfect example of physical position and optical distance (focal length) and the right choice of subject and framing. Telling filmic space is an art by itself. I don´t want to sound like I know the biggest deal about but a bit I do and a lot I recognize it, when I see it. The Hitch part would be the loneliness but alos the dreamlike palette, an peaceful setting but also one of the imagination coming true. It looks forecasting and unsettling. No3 f.i. the start of a scene with a downfall of a character to its end, not by its proposal of formal visual parameters but evenmoreso by its suggestive emotional power, which means that formal laws of visuality are applied, just additionally they also connect on a subconcious level. Frame No. 4 just looks out of this world. Love it. Light, time of the day, hues and tones are to the point as well. Never thought about this lens. It´s fixed focus, right? Very liberating to think of.

I posted this before, but here is some Lumix G6 footage I filmed, lit and "directed". Mighty Canon FD 28mm 2.8, nFD flavour, shot wide open. Such a kewl tiny and great looking lens, which you mights still be able to get for 20 to 40 EUR.

Love the compositions of 3 to 5. Placing actors in them would turn these into a frame of a cinema classic. Though not shot with one of Hitchcocks focal lengths, as far as i figure, it has a Hitchcockian feel to it. @kye