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Better get a Canon FD 20mm before they hit 699+ 🙂

There is the possibility of moire. The S1H is the safe bet for any grooms suit.:) I find the monitor on the S1 a bit unpleasant to handle. It´s connection is very solid but due to that not very smooth to move. A few times I find the EVF bump to be in the way when shooting from certain angles. S1H being 350g heavier than the S1 makes it indeed a very heavy Lumix. GH6 seems like the perfect body. Btw, GH6 in low light seemed to hold onto colours much better than GH5s and though noisier, detail was reained better as well, coming from some youtube tests. So it is a mini S1H in many regards and way beyond in others.

I just bought a Canon FD 35mm F2. I put it to use with the BMMCC and a 0.71x focal reducer last weekend. Focus was manually done by a 1st AC via Tilta Nano. A native electronic 12-35mm would not have cut it. But I can see that continious AF is of course an interesting thing on newer cameras and for videography especially. @webrunner5

The original filter on the original BMPCC and the BMMCC is still letting of IR light get through the sensor. So I bought mine with the filter from Rawlite, which is Oplf and IR Cut in one. I am not sure though if I didnt get tricked though. Anyway, this camera already gave me a lot of joy and I am looking forward to testing it much more. Heck, you guys remember how much use we gave to our Canon Ti and GH cameras back then. We all were so on fire that filming walls was even fun to us. I started HD with a Lumix G6 btw. My favorite colour science for grading. If it only had a 100mbit codec. But that is an old lamento I´ve been having. It´s just a very organic image.

The moire was in Prores 50p when testing. The actual filmshoot was in 25p. I used a different lens and focal length, also changed the lighting to put less emphasize. You can still screw up on BM cameras easily, even in RAW if you shoot under Tungsten light with warm effect gels or under high IR pollution if you don´t use an IR Cut filter.:)

Not at all. @webrunner5 I don´t use electronic Panny lenses nor other native lenses for video. I only own one native mechanical lens, the 12mm SLR Magic which I only used a couple times until I bought a Fujinon 12.5mm C-Mount. One of my favorite lenses on MFT with a focal reducer is a Canon nFD 28mm 2.8 which I bought for 20 EUR a couple years ago.

So, first little project with my BMMCC occured. I bought it six months ago, so not as long as I thought until filming with it. Image is great just as anyone would agree. Not sure if my RAWLITE filter is doing so great, showing moire parade on fine textile patterns. Moire test was at 50p though. So, not sure if it has a different readout at 50p, skipping resolution. Playing with Raw is fun and takes some time of course. Menus, oh well, it´s a cinema camera so taking time with things is okay.:) I was going to post some images. But Andrews last blog article gave me chills. @Andrew Reid I would not want my uploads to be at the hands of anyone else but Andrew. I find it sad to read and since there is no comment section for this I find it even more saddening. 😞 You all have a great day!

@webrunner5 no Panny lenses for video on my mft cameras! 🙂 Would love the Voigts, Veydras or Laowas if going native of course. @kye I did that, recorded in Prores and did the bonus take in RAW 3:1, In Prores it is a very pleasing grain structure, in RAW without noise reduction it was very hard edged. But great reference point, having both for the same shot, just like you suggested! 🙂

Still waiting for the C to M mount adapter. Guess not anymore though. Tracking says, on the way to country of origin.:/ Bummer, in the EOS M package for 125Eu was a C-mount adapter included as well.:) Now, working with raw from my BMMCC in Resolve, noise reduction takes a toll on my computer. It´s not super trivial to get nice, undisturbing noise structure from Raw as the camera is getting from processing by using Prores.

Played around with some BMMCC raw. Exited to compare them both. My C-mount adapter was paid four weeks ago. Now it says it is back on its way to land of origin. Anyway fiddling with raw in Resolve is so much fun. Btw, I had found another Eos M with the 15-55, an EF adapter, three batteries for 125EU. I was gonna go for it for having the adapter. But I asked the guy if he would sell the package for 115. But he didnt answer and next day it was gone. Of course:) The go for cheap. Grab them while they´re hot. I got mine with one battery for 75EUR.

Yeah, the nerdom and its enthusiams coming from camera lovers is what counts a lot. Cinematography is just as much about the joy of using tools to the best effect just as it is to wonder the marvels of tech and to operate them. Now I get carried away. Anyway, looking forward to more awesomness of yours! I´ve had a desire to make a macro micro short for a while. Your footage and thread might have made me get closer to do that! Perfect! 🙂

Yes, still lovin the treasure chambers of EOSHD. Btw, my Tevidon adapter arrived, calling out for a super small anamorphic setup with an Iscomorophot 8 1.5. Cosimo would just take that Tevidon and the Isco and combine it into the smalles anamorphic lens on Eoshd, right! 🙂 @Cosimo After 6 six monthis of ownershipe I finally put my Blackmagic Micro into action. But that is for the BMMCC thread. So no spoilers here. But that with a Tevidon + Isco 8 with a Micro digital S16 would make a worthwhile addition to the arsenal of video nerdism.:) Yes, Eoshd is awesome. And you all are the reason why. Now, off to the BMMCC thread. 🙂

MrSMW owns a S5 and S1H, no need for a a7iv. 🙂 @webrunner5 I held a Sigma FP in the hand for a short time and it did not resonate. Plus, not having a mechanical shutter is not appealing neither to me. I think the rangefinder style FF camera with 10bit video and IBIS would be great for the L-mount lineup and for me.

@Jimmy G My two cents:) Dont buy a Ninja V. Your S1 does good enough without it. So either keep the S! and save your money or sell it and get a GH6. Like I said, my two cents. 🙂 Or keep the mighty S1, still buy a GH6 and compare the two.:)

Again, funny and saddening at the same time. @jgharding

Vintage camera, muaha! @BTM_Pix Funny and saddening thumbnail.

@webrunner5 Thanks for pointing out. I liked the young gentlemans approach. Footage not so much. Hard to believe that most of the GH6 footage looks worse than GH5 amateur clips. Andyax did the best so far for me. But that kid also made a Canon Ti shine like it was the hottest stuff in the universe, which it was back then to non GH2 users. 🙂 Edit: After glimpsing into the footage again, I must say i remembered it to be better. Right now I feel underwhelmed even by the colours from Andyax tests.

Cine D said that underexposure latitude is not far away from FF offerings such as A7iv. But A7iv also displays lotta NR. Hopefully some valid tests will show up. Most the stuff on youtube is not very revealing.

I have not seen convincing footage yet. Well, I have. Though convincing me rather of some dull image quality. I realize how great of an image taker the pocket 4k is regarding the cinematic quality of resolution, smoothness, texture and all these attributes of a great image. GH5 always has to be massaged in post. Good thing it is possible with digital diffusion. GH6 still intriguing to me due to form factor, battery life, features, ease of use, screen and so on. Image wise I don´t see it above a BMPCC4K. But having a BMPCC4k in the form factor of a GH6 is perfect. 2200 is still good money but worth it if the image is up to BMPCC4K quality. Integrity of colours is one thing the Pocket 6K was superiour to the 4K when underexposed strongly.

The 150mbit 10bit codecs on the GH5 and especially on the S series are very robust. It smokes the 240mbit codec from the FS7. It's no contest. The flavour on S1, S1H, S5 also does well compared to Braw being equally robust in the shadows. I was amazed by the Gh5 under good and moderately low light. S series have a powerhouse of a 10bit Long Gop codec. Panny is a big boss when it comes to codecs.

Darn! Sorry to hear. With mine the rear wheel has stopped functioning 3 years ago. They are well built but not rock solid inside I would figure. I imagine buying another one would be cheaper. But why not get figures on it? Time to buy a GX9 and test the 200mbit HD hack on it.:) The bigger crop in 4k might suck but would also mean more coverage for S16 C-mount lenses.

Yeah, uprezing, could need that.:) @mercer I got kinda lucky with a real 16mm cinema! zoom, not S16 unfortunately, so maybe not sooo lucky. It´s a 10-100 Zeiss F1.8 and it´s beautiful. Price was 450USD. I was exited when I connected the PL- mount. What an event, that satisfying fit of an old classic cinema zoom lens to that rock solid PL-mount of my F3. Now I got another reason to gives this beauty a try with that Zeiss beauty on it. Funky previewing though through the monitor with the much smaller image circle. 🙂

People with the desire for a fundamental but affordable update could buy a GH4 for 500 USD or a Lumix G9 with the free 10bit update for 800. These cameras are in the league and much more. @Django GH6 is rather in the league of A7s3 if specs deliver what they promise with that innovative screen, class leading IBIS and more, 5.7K60, minus the DOF from the FF sensor with the same lenses. Give it an affordable focal reducer for around 100USD and you are in S35 land. Wished they had given the GH6 a S35 sensor with the choice of a MFT crop

Great write up, kye! Veydra primes are pretty and much more expensive than the Meike lenses, unfortunately. Really cool looking beauties.

@projectwoofer If the S5 only had full HDMI, it would be the perfect camera for me. Crazy, that a thing like live cropping is not on the S1. I mean, it´s on my GX85. What the heck! Nah, you cannot turn off noise reduction in the A7iv. So they should be about the same regarding "honest" DR.