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Don't get us started. Two Iscomorphot 8 1.5x and not one of them rigged. Several Zeiss Tevidons and only the 35mm mounted. Two FS700 with EF speedboosters but only one mountable lens, a Tokina 28-70 2.6 in Nikon mount with a faulty Nikon to EF adapter. I have an Atomos Shogun waiting around without a cage and sofore unrigged and unused. So no tasty 10bit from one of the FS700 cams. For the two only FS700 job I rented a 24-105 and shot in 8bit HD. A silly story of being owned by stuff I own. Now some other people confess their sins. I might continue.

Thanks you very much for the insightful reflection and all the work! @kye Now i need to montage and edit all this information in my head.😊 @Emanuel I was always astonished by the montage of "chelovek s kino apparatom", which was edited by Elisaveta Svilova. I am astonished by some classic movies, by how good or great they are when I watch them for the first time. Some modern masterpieces are equally mindblowing and breathaking of course.

I was thinking about a beat up 5d3 for 400 Eur. But then the Eos M is such a small package with C-mount lenses and takes cheaper Sd cards and is much cheaper. Still got to look for adapter(s), 2nd and 3rd battery. I plan to take it as my to go camera rather than rigging it up. My S1 does 3x crop HD giving S16 feel but I find the Eos M super fascinating. For 72eur i dont miss ibis. For 4999 i would miss full hdmi though.😊 @Emanuel

@homestar_kevin I will, when i get around it. And you too, would be awesome if you find time to post some FD 35-105 goodness.😊The Canon has been on my mind for years. I always wanted to get it for a super bargain. Now i bought a big, heavy, more expensive but beautiful varifocal Konica instead.😉 It's rather called a varifocal lens instead of zoom lens. It changes its focal point drastically when changing focal length.

EosMkomodo. lol😆 It should arrive today. I paid 72eur for the cam, a battery and charger, shipping included. Now I need to buy adapters and a fast SDcard. Could be my to go cam and give my GX85 some rest. Pure C-mount 2.8K S16 Raw heaven. Without Ibis.😊 Thanks to @ZEEK @tupp @Matt James Smith ?

@leslie To the point! Camera conspis is fine for what it is BUT do i yearn to recipe it instead of watching Tony Zhou or better one of the masterpiece films in his essays or better enjoy any other beautiful fullfilling activity? No. I bought my 28 Fd six1/2 years ago. It's a newFD lens, mechanically nothing close to Zeiss or others but working smoothly. But this tiny lens is a marvel in the IQ department. It's still affordable around 40 to 70 Euro. Now other FD primes and some zooms are getting expensive. The L or aspherical lenses are reaching into Leica madness, I mean Leica M! Get the tiny 28 Fd as long as they are cheap. Put it on a cheapo focal reducer an enjoy.:)

@leslie There is appreciation for good stuff. When I talk about lenses to people in real life, they love it. After all my 20eu Canon Fd 28mm 2.8 looks like Hollywood even though it's no f2 Distagon. That lens shines on 0.71 speedbosted Mft with full sensor width. On cropped 4K with G7, G85, Gh4, GX85, Gx9 there is some sensor estate and magic missing. Factor 0.64 might give enough back. But no cheapo focal reducer offers that. Just saying to get back to the topic of sensor size😊 One a sidenote. My gain in sensor estate with a focal reducer also made me avoid my ordinary faulty adapter. Latter had too much light bouncing inside due to reflective surfaces. That screwed up my footage under sunlight. Always good to experiment and try things in a practical manner. Such as sensor sizes or estate.

Or rewatch Tony Zhou! Which i hopefully will take my time to do soon again. @MrSMW

The 35-100 promises an impressive image. There are quiete a few impressive and worthy vintage 2x and 3x zooms out there! My 35-100 with the two scratches must have other faults as well, like webrunner said. I was exited when Rinad pointed this lens out to us back then and I am super exited to have one which is like new plus two more used up ones. Some sellers from Japan offer mint ones for 700 bucks. An impressive piece of glass and no worthy and hardly any footage on the web! That is indeed pretty surprising to me! I mean, come on, it's a 35-100 F2.8, with great results wide open! Your reaction is a bit understating.:) Btw there is still no focal reducer for Konica mount. That might have hindered Konica lenses sky rocketting among vintage glass film crowd. Now with cheaper FF offerings of mirrorless that starts to change.

@tupp Thanks, mine is on its way, hehe🙂

CZzzzzzzzzzzzz, the sweeter the sound. 🙂 I will follow with some Konica 35-100mm goodness. Hard to believe that hardly any footage exists on the web!

Andrew, you´re right! I would respect the rules as a participant of this challenge!:) But thanks to the originial poster CyclingBen for giving me ideas beyond it.

Now that! That´s a sight super worth and exiting to be seen! Though your Canon Dream Lens on the FF camera of your choice would be really something as well! Or maybe the Pentax "Zeiss Hollywood" 28mm F2.0, since you, BTMPix and webrunner are running our eyes watering with mentioning all that Zeiss magic. @kye I agree with the logic of seperating parameters of an image and to work them in Post. You have shown some kewl examples of your own colour exploration and put Yedlin on our map. Thank you very much! Just our logic of what one did state or not in this thread differs from one another. I am happy with that, even moreso with your input of course. After all, Django, you, me and others do love the Arri video. I can stop arguing now with that realization.

Hoping for some RAW goodness from 5d, Sigma FP and Bmpcc/Bmmcc. Also some 8bit nerd passion and fun vintage oddities. Andrew could show off his Canon dream lens. So many cool combos I would love to see. Someone had a Tokina 60-120 2.8. There is a photo of a Sony PMW F3 with a Nikon 28 to 70 with a Isco video 16:9 in the treasure corners of the EOSHD archives. Or the lightest gear, camera, lens like CyclingBen suggested in the original post. Well, I surely am with you on getting out again for some leisure time camera fun! @leslie

I think this sounds just perfect!

@kye"I am just tired seeing great contributors wasting their talent in bloated debates and become bloated themselves." Great contributors means people who have greatly contributed. There is a lot of appreciation in that sentence. Talent implies, I enjoy their display of talent. A lot of appreciation in my heart, mind and statement. I stand by that. And of course I would love to see you participate in the "weight loosing shooting challenge".:) This thread is a complain as much as it is giving some of my suggestions, giving examples of great stuff, expressing gratitude for the huge archive of quality writings but also expressing my view of the state of things. I believe in this conversation. @MrSMWYou are also guilty of having a great website and work for weddings, with best in town photography and wedding films. So guilt and pleasure are a wedded couple in the human ways. I don´t wish for super control. Otherwise I would have not even been able to express and discuss with you. Curation means structure of forum, suggesting things for display. Expressing what stuff we would be grateful to see from others.

Hey, dont try to sneak yourself out of our weightlosing shooting challenge.😀 @webrunner5 After all, more people doing kewl stuff will lead to more people doing kewl stuff. I am happy with what little i got and what i do with it. Will share more soon. cheers, my dear and sincere and humerous:) friend

I would prefer that. What combination do you suggest?:) We could also do a list of our stuff and people are allowed to express wishes. I would love to see Glenn @mercer with his 5d3 Rawmachine plus his Minolta 35mm 1.8. Then @hyalinejimcould join with his 5d if he still has it. @kye might be generous and give us some tasty Bmmcc goodness. I could join that to finally do some legit footage with it. @BTM_Pix could perform some more of his awesomness and challenge good ole Bmmcc HD with some Sigma FP 12bit Raw HD love. A challenge and a wishlist we could be exited about. I think @webrunner5 still has a 3 CCD Varicam on his mind. Now that would be a treat! Classy classic lushiness!😊

@DjangoEva 1 sensor is not as tall. Would love it to be though.😊 Should be 24.6 x 12.97mm regarding Panny Pro website. The camera news sites got it wrong. Maybe Panny gives the Gh6 a Super35 4to3 sensor!😊 @kye I got a lot out of the comparison I posted. Difference is there to my eyes despite the possibilities of postwork.

Emanuel, of course, I know fuzzynormals stuff from Lumix GM1 to Oly Em5. Have been a fan of the approach and results, filming with little for great effect. Also a great fan of the Gx7 colour footprint. I love the posts and wish for more stuff in that spirit. What i get tired about is eternal and mega lengthy back and forth over specs. Even much moreso i get tired of megalomanias of misunderstanding and misinterpreting within uberlong and repetetive posts, bloated glibberish. Fun fact, Mercer posted Fuzzys BW piece in the 8bit BW thread I have mentioned above. Gorgeous footage! Not so fun fact, footage does not get recognition when buried in the sub section. Until some time ago people were exited about vintage lenes. Not so much anymore in our lens thread. I posted there about the Konica 35 to 100mm F2.8, an exiting piece of glass, which i hunted on ebeach three times to get a great sample. So i know and love fuzzy, mercer and all you great artists and enthusiasts and nerds. It just feels like the art of posting needs some redirection, curation, inspiration and better and tighter communication. I am just tired seeing great contributors wasting their talent in bloated debates and become bloated themselves. Also I would love to further develope a structure of the forum to inspire posts from anamorphic, footage and raw section. After all it's a pity that gems from Tito Ferandes, Seb Farges and others are hidden and lost for an audience. Also, giving people feedback, encouraging creation is something we did much better until some time ago. I will post a bit soon. Just like all of us a bit too busy with life to do so. But i am always exited when some gem of writing is contributed. Thanks for all the great contributions over the years.

I love and enjoy to get to know about interesting things and to get and share feedback as well. Threads that inspire action to create and to dream and fantasize about it before. I have enjoyed many threads with that quality. They have topics like 8bit Black and White, 2500hour Pmw F3 Hd marvel, EosM hacked digital Super8, Roger Coreman and Jim Wynorski, matching 5d3 raw with Gh5. There are many vintage masterpieces and, thank Gosh, lovely oddities in the Eoshd archive. I would love people to contribute more again in that manner. I will post in the 8bit BW thread again soon. 5rc thread has great info now. Thanks to all of you. But it's starting to get uber bloated. Thanks to lack of own experience and own results with the cam. Let's contribute more to interesting content and honour writing, creating topics for ouselves as an audience and keep up good manners. Here is the video from a classy thread I just mentioned. Matching Gh5 with 5D3 Raw. The powergrade could still be in the original thread. Thread and video created by @hyalinejim Quality writing and work.

@kye The video does show the differences of sensor sizes on various levels, fi further in the video at 13min 50sec it shows how much much cleaner the footage with the 65 is. Like you said, a great or must watch for image lovers. Thread closed 😊

After having tried this exiting lens and having tested three of them, I am impressed. First lens has a faulty aperture, which does not close when mounted to the camera. Second one has two deep scratches. Number three is almost like new. What a marvel to hold and operate. No 1 and 3 have great center sharpness wide open throughout the zoom range. The one with the scratches is sharp at 2.8 but has a glow and is uber hard to get things in focus with when wide open. Thanks to @Rinad Amir who pointed this lens out to us on this forum among the Zeiss 40-120 2.8 if i remember correctly. Anyway, even though this lens is impressive and a of 35 to 100mm range at 2.8 is a treat, this lens is not without challenges or should I say even moreso. Its varifocal construction means the focus marks are changing through the focussing range. One of my three lenses also has focal lengths changing when lens pointed 90 degrees up or down. @BTM_Pix I have to repeat and cite myself. So here i go:) "Great to see some love for the 135mm focal length. Beautiful shots. Would love to see a video of that. What codec and resolution did you choose?"😊

The Angie above might be a 16mm lens though.:) I think I tried one a few months ago from a 16mm Beaulieu camera. I kept an Angie 75 which covers Mft and almost S35. It gives me a very exiting look on Mft. There is an awesome comparison of Arri Alexa cameras with their sensor - lens couplings and the resulting looks, done by a DOP with a great hand for such a test setup. I surely recognize that this test is not about same DOF but about look of sensor and lens pairings providing equal POVs. It always gives me clicks and gotchya moments. Enjoy and draw your conclusions. Edit: there is a DOF equivalent part of the test. So even more to enjoy. https://manuelluebbers.com/large-format-look-alexa-65-vs-alexa-mini/

How about special categories, fi smallest lens to biggest body ratio or the other way around. Two days ago i enjoyed a plastic 25mm on my Gx85 for some glorious BW. Not that this would be unusual by any means for this place and its people.:) @kye you won't see me sell my F3, my friend nor the bmmcc. We need a special category with camera body to data rate ratio, mbps per gram, giving 5d raw shooters some space- Hallo Glenn @mercer 🙂and the other way around, getting some F3 owners to finally use their gem and some internal 8bit goodness!😊