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My two cents too, vimeo vids shot with tech pre 2015 are much nicer thought out, are more felt with an artists sensibility and competence, more interesting done than with hightech stuff from the later years. Low budget HD cams beginning with the likes of GH1, Canon Ti and so on showed an approach more connected to the possibilites and impact of visual cinematic language than these days. I am talking about semi pro stuff. Pro ads and big money productions are not of interest to me when it comes to the short form of film.

But kye, it would indeed be dull to me personally if this site started catering to the average tech review taste. Apologies accepted big time of course!:) If smartphone reviews help me to pull something off like Tangerine, that would have to be "one charming motherxxx smartphone review".

300dpi CMYK print for getting ones eyes very, very close and still believing the print to be a photograph would work very well. Like I said, there are guidelines for certain viewing distances. I do think that statement makes sense. Other than that, you are´nt coming across to me as kind in responding as you used to. You are a native speaker. I´m not. That´s all sense I will be making for the rest of this week. I have not seen a metal print in real life, nor have I seen a Daguerrtypie in real life but would love to see it.

Wouldnt support influencers with knowhow and brains but stay focused and true to cinema with my words and message. For stills there are guidelines for printing resolution. There have been building size ads done with 6MP cameras. If Andrew sees benefit to himself and this site in covering smartphones, great. If it inspires me to do a film like Tangerine, even better. Just catering to the needs to a youtube tech audience would be dull for me.

Instead of waiting for a breakthrough in artefact free image acquisition, we could get the creator of the raw recording motion app on board. We could furthermore support his efforts. Maybe the android powered mft camera would record raw with the motion app! https://github.com/mirsadm/motioncam/releases

I wouldnt second the assumption of lesser talent at all. It's lack of opportunity and collaboration. In the end Eoshd could develop a bit more into a collab space with meaningful feedback and exercises and experiments plus curated discussions. So how about for all the contributors of this thread, to try to give a meaningful vista a glowy gloomy painterly look, just one framing. Should be possible to attempt.

Darn the both of you for making me reevaluate my statement. I never felt the mojo was right in my face. The 1DC was always a mystical camera to me. In that way it had mojo. But the images never wowed me enough. Maybe the Wow was not big enough for the big chunk of money which it cost back then. 12000eu/usd was astronomical! I was still fancying it for the plain fact of CLOG and lack of "artificial sharpening" and for its mystical status. My S1 does not feel effortless to me. I don't know what it is. It does not excel under natural light. Maybe I couple it with the wrong lenses. On paper it smokes the 1DC. But mystical qualities are not surrounding the Lumix. 1DC pieces always had a muted look to me. I never saw any grades going into the 70ies or Kodak look. It sometimes looked so neutral as trying to hide lack of potentially thick colors by low contrast and understated color palette. Whereas other cameras impressed with rich and thick color, 1DC seemed to love the understatement. For instance 5d Raw always wowed me on the other hand.

I think my fascination for a Lumix G6 is emotional but with good reasoning, giving a magical hd image with the right settings. But having a fascination for a 1DC seems less rational to me. Akward. Maybe it's because it still costs a bit and does not offer more in the image department than similar priced Lumix S cameras. Whereas a G6 can be had for 150eu and gives you a satisfying image for very little money. So question is, would a 1DC make sense to image connoisseurs? I never saw that 1DC mojo like others did.

I consider myself to becoming one. I have a lot of respect for the footage and its DP above. As a gaffer I have been an integral part contributing my lights to different DPs cinematography over the last couple of years. We all work hard for the art and dont get paid well often in the microcosm outside the general tv industry. But recognizing the average quality some well paid people produce, I won' t hesitate anymore to call myself becoming a cinematographer. By heart, effort and work ethic. 😊 And regarding framing, lensing and feeling and seeing I would consider you the same:) @mercer I hope to get to post more in the future and to enjoy the effects of exchange and inspiration. Well all could do more of that and remember what it takes to produce material like the og post shares.

Kewl! An exiting beautiful camera to look at and to hold in hands. Not so many official EM-1 MKII filmmakers around here. I remember Oly had the best Jpeg colors in town with their Pen series. cheers

I joined EOSHD in 2015. I´m sure I remember that right. To find this video now, which back then stunned with its kinetic energy and beauty, its choice and combination of images, its rhythm and synergy with sound and music. So I guess this bump is like the goose bumps, which it gave to me back then- it is very, very obvious.:)

Bmpcc 4k giving the bmmcc a good run for the money and has better 4k:) As the camera is not as popular anymore as it used to be around its hype, more serious practitioners of the art of cinematography shine through. Here is a piece with its own look of digital emulsion that looks valid and beautiful to me and I enjoyed the obvious crispyness in the mid frame, stunning resolution and the anamorphic bokeh magic and sharpness falloff to the sides. bmpcc 4ks are getting amazingly cheap on the used market. I liked the colour response of bmpcc4k material in grading. If not IR poluted these cameras are fantastic. Here my favorite piece of pure cinematography of the last couple weeks, a PannSvhs pick of January:)

You are more than welcome, Andrew! I remember articles of yours and subjects you discussed a by heart. So I remembered the review title for the G6 was GH2 redux. I then googled that and enjoyed it again.:) I think your massive high quality content needs curation or, as I think you just implied, a more accessible layout/ structure through the site. Searching via Eoshd feels less intuitive to me than looking for Eoshd content via Google. For instance, I am never efficient in looking for thread titles. Often I mistakingly look up stuff with single search terms from the text of thread posts rather than from thread titles. Fi, looking for my beloved 8bit BW thread results in having all threads with the letter combo bw in it. Anyone of us has started threads themselves which became of keen interest to them. As for me these are fi threads about 3 sensor CCD 2/3 Varicams or Jeff Wynorski, Roger Cormans infamous list of a filmmakers last resort list and so on. On a personal level, Eoshd did not only make me want to become a practitioner of cinematography, it made want to enjoy Berlin more. I did and both and still practice cinematography. Besides that I learned so much about lenses, the now not so secret Pentax version of the Zeiss Hollywood and much more. I would love people to revise their own threads and live up to the promises of creating. My Konica 35 to 100mm 2.8 needs to be tested. My F3 needs the heck graded out of it just like I did with my G6 which I bought due to your review. Best camera purchase until now, until it broke down on me one year or so ago. Why?, because it started it all for me. And your review was an essential part of that. Anyway, looking forward to discovering and rediscovering the treasures of EOSHD. cheers

Your S1 has an AF lens sticking to it, which you decorated with a mask?:) Why, Mark, why?

I know, the title sounds a bit corny. But I just enjoyed a classy classic review. It also sounds like i might be ass kissing but far away from that. I just love the wealth and quality of reviews and threads on this site. I highly recommend browsing EOSHD. How come I open a topic with that "insight" and suggestion? Well, as others suggested yesterday, to test the search function with less then four characters, I just developed an appetite to enjoy some great Lumix G6 footage from Andrew again. I love the vibe of Andrews Berlin, I love the vibe of my now broken G6. If it just had 100mbit and no noise reduction up to 1600 Iso, it would be all the camera I would really need! In Andrews reviews we often get to see the city of Berlin as it has been, an open space, which deserves to be called that actually! A space with warmth, variety and poetry, full of warm hearted people, with unpretentious beauty. These days my attributes to describe Berlin would be: occupied by the forces of money and algorithm industry, money with dirt glueing onto it, algorithms throwing dirt at us. So cherishing low fi and old school and plasticy equipment with the promise and challenge of beautiful image quality is like cherishing the promise of the things and place we film with it. Thats why I love these classics, these classy reviews and Andrews Berlin. It is a promise which gives me hope and joy. cheers

I found the colour palette funky but still enjoyable. Would not base my judgement of the camera on this video nor grading result. Nice lensing I must say. I had my Canon FD 20mm on my BMMCC with a 0.71x focal reducer, it gave a pretty outfit. Looks to me like it was used on a plain adapter or what do you think?:)

I checked for FX6 and BMMCC and the five letters made the difference.:) The three character camera did not show up.

Like kye and others stated. To pick the vista, to find the perspective after having gone distances literally takes effort and skill, framing the shot with the right lens, to chose the perspective, all that is done very well. The result is stunning images indeed. I like the notion of a challenge. By the way, asfaik, all people involved in the last challenge did not want to receive anything after the votes were published, because, after a all, some of the used cameras still cost up to 200usd. We all did not want to do this to our mates in the end.:) I like the idea of offering something to the winner, which we chose by ourselves, if we participate as well. I also like the challenge and joy we can have without a contest and vote, just to do it and share it. I feel inspired to see Berlin through open eyes. Which camera do I choose:) I think this time I would love the luxury of a camera bettering an 8bit photo camera from 2014.:)

Yeah, saw some awesome stuff shot in cine4 with it and internal HD 8bit 420. So maybe one of us starts a thread with the best buys, and additional best buys which we ever hardly used plus the stories to not using them! That´s right!:) But, at least FS700 got used for two paid gigs, one of them with internal HD SLog2. One of the two gigs was last year even.:) In 2021 I had to do two shorts with other cameras due to lack of rigging, time or due to request of the producer. At least my S1 got some use as a B-Cam and produced beautiful images. Last year it was BCam and even ACam to a C300II. But still, darn you are right.:) My F3 waiting for an EVF and for its first legit footage. BMMCC getting ready for some digital Super16 anamorphic, but still waiting after a first test. Darn, but in a good way too, so much exiting tech!:) I would hope CS was pretty good from my experience with my FS700. I heard that it either performs better under 5600K or 3200K, making a huge difference. The vari ND for sure would be a great thing to for some variation in DOF. Should browse vimeo a bit for some nice filmic experiments with it.:) ANYWAY, the Varicam LT sold for 5500EUR! It was completely rigged, with two P2-Cards, viewfinder, shoulder rig, handles and V-mount. Before, it was even offered by the seller for 4500, but seems like too many potential buyers offered more, so they put it back in for 5500. I was hoping the other way around.:)

@dreamplayhouse So, which of the cameras are in your closer circle of choices? I would say, go for a GH4, same HD resolution as G6, G7, GH3, with the benefit of a professional grade body, when it comes to DSLMs. It has up to 200mbit All-Intra and 60p in HD mode, best in class battery life and the additional beautiful 4K. If GX7 had a 50mbit or better 100mbit codec, I would propably get one of these even now. As fuzzy said, beautiful colour response from what I got to see on vimeo back then.

Mounting Tevidons has been a challenge to me. I got a whole set in C-mount. Except the 100m, which I dont have at all unfortunately.:) Of my lenses only the 35mm fits on my S1 with the C-mount to L-mount adapter. None of them goes beyond 2m with my Mft adapter. On my S1 I have to use some spacing with a bit of tape. The 35mm is a little wonder lens, covering S35. They sell C-mounts on Ebay, which you exchange with the original Tevidon bayonets/mounts. Then you have to go from there with an adapter from C-mount to your desired mount. I was hoping my C-mount variants of Tevidon lenses would fit well already. So there is still a challenge ahead from me, giving the exchange mounts a go and finding the right C-mount adapter to go with it. Instead on could also mount the C-mount to mft adapter by screwing it on the body of the lens, after the original Tevidon mount has been taken off. Would love some more Tevidon love and FOOTAGE with them from you guys.:) One interesting thing encountered me with my Angie 75mm C-mount lens. It gave me super flat and hazy images when I took some portraits of people. But some dedicated RAW love in rawtherapee gave me some of the most exiting colours with it. My native Oly 45mm 1.8 on the other hand didnt during another location.

Perfectly said @Mark Romero 2 Lantern has a pretty nice curtain to really block as much light as one wishes btw, if we talk about the one from Aputure, which comes in Bowens mount.

@leslie Prices are way too high for me at the moment to get one and sofore no confession yet.:) But instead I confess of having bought the Konica 35-100mm f2.8 some time ago. Still looking for an opportunity to make it shine. Aweseome! You really would put many smiles on the faces of C-mount, BMMCC and BMPCC lovers. So practically on a lot of our faces.:) Interesting about the Pentax thing. I read that there are some gems under lesser know brand names. F.i. Miranda 25mm f2.8 is supposed to have the same glass like its Zeiss counterpart. Same with Minolta and Leica 2.8, though I wouldnt call Minolta to be unknown of course. I have a full set of Tevidons and some doubles, just missing the 100mm F2.8. Mounting and adapting these is a sucker though. Have mounted a C-mount version of the 35mm on my S1, using some gaffer tape to adjust the flange. It works perfect in S35! Mounting it with my mft adapter on my GX85 does not work. None of the others mount adequately on neither my S1 or GX85. The doubles are all in Tevidon mount, so even more variables with the Tevidon to C-mount adapter, which you subsitute for the Tevidon bayonet and screw directly on the lens. I mean this thread is about vintage lenses, so hopefully you won´t mind this little excourse @kye🙂

360p youtube looks worse than anything:) But thanks for getting a point across. Why this film. Looks a bit dull. There are other classics of Soviet cinema. There are also more than one classic Soviet lens. Helios 58mm is not the end of all lens desires. This film looks rather like something like this, to give it a lens equivalent. 🙂 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smena_(camera)

Don, I think I got all your points.:) @webrunner5 American West Coast Grunge Music just sounds great. Wonky colours, sure, why not embrace that wonky film emulsions! Your point of view makes me want to browse the vimeo archives for that (in)famous A7s treasures of video with wonky or surprising colour. 🙂