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High profile stuff. Hard for me to estimate the raw quality of the image. But looks good. Now, back to the F3, hopefully some of us get to put it to good use. Cannot wait to get a good deal on a used HD BMVA and put my Tokina 28-70 2.6 on it and get that baby rollin!

Once S1H gains momentum at filmschools, it will produce more and more impressive films. Today a friend of mine entered the realm of Varicam colour science and massive cinema image quality with the S1H. I was close to buy one myself, because I was going to sell my S1 due to the paid VLog update and the 10bit 4K60p of the S5. Tell you what, the VLog 10bit puts the S1 way ahead of a C300II image wise, no contest at all! If S5 will continues to sell well, and if Panasonic keeps their model philosophy in logic and neat order, they will grow and give Sony a good run for the money. My friend owns a GH5 and films with Arri at his school. If the S1H convinces him for his project, he is the usual film school image connoiseur, it will be on a whole lot of film school shoots. Film school in Germany means some free tickets for the large German film festivals as Berlinale and others. The S line I think will rock the scene. I hope I can be part of it.:)

Hopefully it never will. I find it hyper flimsy! It is the worst on off switch I ever had on a camera. Missing a LOT more? What do you mean other than internal 10bit or 422/444? :) I haven´t found beautiful F5 footage on the web. Have not come around to shoot with one neither. F3 look convinced me right away. When I bought the cam I found some internal 8bit SLOG footage on the cards. It already gave me an hint how beautiful the image is from this camera. It is the cheaper C300MK1 and better HD cinema cam than the C300II when coupled with an external recorder. Footage on vimeo and especially latest youtube posts show the cinematic beauty of this beauty.

G6 just does not start anymore. It was disappointed in delivering such a beautiful image with great gradeable colours, but to be bothered by the tiny codec. :) Codec does well in midtones, but in lowlight shadows are artefacts heaven. Wrong kinda heaven of course. I loved the colour and organic feel of the footage, but only after grading. It took me months of builing my G6 Lut. It has evolved into my general lut for lumix cameras. So I owe a lot to that camera. I still have a G7, which has the perfect HD image to my eyes but the same tiny codec. GX85 in HD is subpar compared to these cameras, though 4K with it is beautiful. Now, where were we at? :) The HD 100mbit on the GH4 might just be the coolest thing one can get for 300bucks. Upscaling it to 4K should do. Wondering if it has the same poetic Gestalt as the image coming from the G6. By the way, the 8bit 100mbit HD from the GH5 is stellar, 10bit no contest. But everyone knows that. GH4 10bit hack or even better update would be awesome. The latter, now that would be some Panasonic love!

@IronFilm I always keep checking new F3 footage on youtube, rather than filming with my own one.:) A 2K hack would indeed be really something. Only thing this cam would be missing. How would one approach that? F5 hack style? One design flaw though is the on off switch. On my cam, which is almost like new, it is very easy to push either side. Would like to know if anyone of this forum has the same kinda feeling about danger of switching the cam off on accicent during an important shoot. For our enjoyment, awesome image quality. Mojo time! 🙂

G6 and F3, we both share the same love for a digital image. My G6 stopped working. The HD image out of it was some of the most organic footage, when graded, only lessend by the puny codec, which broke apart in lower light. I imagine the 50mbit codec of the GH3 already works wonders compared to it. Loved the form factor with its perfect size, the light weight, even the unobstusive boring design. Function and ergo was perfect. One of my dearest cams. I dig a great HD image. I imagine the 100mbit HD of the GH4 is the best HD image 300 bucks can buy, congrats to your purchase! @IronFilm The 200mbit ALL Intra flavour shouldnt even be necessary.

Favorite thread in a while! Thank you @Neumann Films I rembember your and your friends´ batman shortfilm days. Really gave a lot of people inspiration to start filmmaking, if not as a professional carrer then as a redemption for body, heart and soul!

For cinema quality S1 with update or S1H with that tasty OPLF. No mudd but fine grain at higher isos. Massive latitude for underexposure, which is best in class, much better at underexposure than Pocket6K with Braw. Sony makes images muddy at higher isos. Rolling shutter is awesome though. For a video camera and as a hybrid or even cinema camera the S series impresses. A 1900 usd Lumix S5 blows a C300II out of the water imagewise, it is not even fair to put them in the same contest. Was grading underexposed C300ii 10bit material in UDH and Cine 4K the last week, UHD looking like mushy HD with temporal noise reduction, C4K with big pixel blocks in the shadows. Colours kept impressively intact though, I must admit.

That´s right @SnowfunExternal recorder could help, as it did with the processing of the original A7s, not only giving it 4K but also being free of the strong processing and artefacts. S1 and S5 on the other hand are very impressive with their internal codecs and processing, S1H even moreso having sharpness -1 for Vlog and additionally without pretty much any moire due to its OPLF filter.

Holding and filming with the S1 is a joy. VLog and 10bit codecs are amazing. Latitude too. In a test on slashcam it wipes the floor with the A7s, which has mushyness creeping in at higher ISO and lowlight, whereas S1 keeps colour, grain and resolution on a classleading level, even surpassing Canon R5 in at the extremes of underexpure. I still see oversaturation in the reds and blues when underexposed shots are pushed too much in post. But easily fixed with a bit of desaturation of the two colours before pushing exposure in post. I cannot wait to film some sufficient images with this beauty. A7siii would have my interest if without the mushyness at lower light or at underexposure. Rolling shutter is pretty phenomenal. But the image of the S1, S5, S1H seems to be even more impressive.

Does the S5 have an extra S35 mode besides the APS-C? S1 only offer APS-C besides the full readout in the 4K modes. S35 on the S1H is a bit larger than 1:1 readout which the APS-C is.

You should be able to zoom in with your recorder, right? Atomos 5 or 7 inch recorder should do the job well.

Lovely, now put some Zeiss Tevidons to use with it and show off this beauty with some tasty 60fps CDNG Raw!:) Is the HDMI a full size port? BMMCC is one of the vintage cameras like the Sony F3 which have risen in prices again over the last months. There is some mojo to them as many have stated before on this forum. I personally would have loved a 60p variante of the BMCC 2.5K!

Can that be true! Awesome but still some time to wait. Panasonic reads eoshd. If they would put that in the headlines the S1 will sell better again I am sure. The hefty pro body with full HDMI and unlimited running time, worth the extra squids over the S5. I purchased the Vlog update last week and bang, Panasonic shows me some love!:) Further Updates for LUMIX S1 in the First Half of 2021 To meet the demands of users, the LUMIX S1 will continue to evolve. With firmware 2.0, the user will be able to manually switch the Dual Native ISO settings. As well as V-Log recording, further enhancements will be available with the purchase of DMW-SFU26 , including an anamorphic mode and timecode function, in addition to 5.9K/C4K and 4K60/50p 4:2:0 10bit internal video recording and 5.9K/4K/Anamorphic (4:3) 3.5K 12-bit RAW video data recording over HDMI on an Atomos Ninja V.7 Now, if Blackmagic gives us some tasty Braw output to their recorder for the S series, that would be beautiful!

Now, that tip is here for eternity. Thank you. Wish me happy hunting. 🙂

Hey Geoff, why did he sell it. For a S5 which has 4K60p in 10bit? 🙂 Now I bite in the sweet sour apple and bought the darn VLog Update. It feels awesome, having the full power of Vlog curve and gamut and the sensor and the fantastic processing of the S1 at my hands now. Processing already show its powers in the 8bit modes. No mushyness in low to no light! No with the famous 10bit long gop and Vlog I feel like having a mini Varicam in my hands! I am very pleased to see that VLog is even there in EXtele and HD modes. I am super happy that I bought the update. Now Panny, as a little gift to us S1 owners with the VLog update, give ALL S1 owners the 10bit 4K60p of the S5. 🙂 @Andrew ReidAndrew, with your connections to Panasonic, would you be allowed to say anything about a possible 10bit 4K50/60p update for the S1? @HockeyFan12 Darn, what luscious green. Such luxerous rich colour! Beautiful shots, esp. the first one knocks me off my socks. Would love some footage of a person in that setting.

Awesome, sounds like you want to top your GH5 and GH5s pieces! Cannot wait to see both of your videos, until winter of course:) @Neumann Films

Well, I saw a lot of footage of the S1H and the R5 side by side and the S1H colors were much, much better. The R6 skintones were really green, its limited dynamic range screwed up its colour rendition in underexposed midtone areas. It is hard to believe that the tester didnt do a bit of colour correction. He gave us another filler video which has no significant technical test behind its slick presentation. Which camera, R6 or R5? 🙂 Anyway, joke and implicite wisdome aside, R5 gets smoked in underexposed areas color and resolution wise. S1H is two stops ahead. Even S5, which you can get for 1900 USD. And indeed in the test video above, the Canons look green and toxic from 9.30 on. So, there must be some weirdness to the test set up, as to the test set up, which you are referring to in your sentence.

@zerocool22 Thank you for the entertaining video. Just, the content of this video is, well, let´s say there is some. Presentation is pro and pleasing of course. First the Canons look better, then from 9.30 on 12K looks much better color wise. All three cameras look good. I am waiting for Luke Neumanns material. If it turns out half as impressive as his GH5s video than we know he has a cabinet full of Zeiss anamorphics. 🙂 Luke, you better deliver some Zeiss opulence. @Neumann Films S1H has a 6K mode, even open gate. It is much cheaper than these other cameras and betters the R5 by a margin when it comes to exposure latitude.

Good question. I think the reason is licensing. In the long run AI enhanced DFD could just do the trick better than other tech. Question is, will S1 get free 10bit as the G9 and the S5 already has from the start? What about the 10bit 4k60? You know it for sure, guys. 🙂 @Andrew Reid@Dave Maze

Ah, I will enjoy this later on. Something to look forward to. Awesome! Thanks!

@TomTheDP Please Panny, give it a free Vlog update, since the S5 has it already implemented. Also, like the S5, give us the 4k60 10bit, please. Thank you, Panasonic!:) I would love to have a 25p option for 4k and 6K photo modes!

Hey Dave, would love to know, if Andrew has any insight about a free 10bit Vlog update for the Lumix S1, since the S5 already has it, and if 4k60p is as well for the S1? Now this one was a bit profane, I know. Now on with more substantial stuff: Would like to know If Andrew would be interested in shooting a shortfilm or musicvideos in Berlin?:) Also, has he ever considered teaching people in person about lenses, the vintage flavour of them, anamorphics and all his other tasty specialties? A lens nerdom parade would be awesome, live when corona will be tamed! cheers

It´s a tiny cube. Oh Gosh, hopefully not with mini hmdi. It´s seems to get the Zcam form factor then. Why not call it Zcam? @Andrew Reid Hey Andrew, any news from Panasonic about a possible free 10bit Vlog update for the S1 or 10 bit for 4k60p? cheers

Pretty looking camera! If it only had full HDMI for the lowest budget shooter I am who can only afford his SDI connection on a second market Sony F3 and FS700. I am still hesitating with spending 200 EU for the VLOG / 10bit update for my S1, because I would feel dumb if Panasonic is give it to us for free eventually. And still not 10bit for 4K60p in the S1. S5 with full HDMI, I would indeed have bought after selling the S1.