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@Geoff CB But you seem to care how it looks like, since you are reposting the whole post again. 🙂 Yes, let´s see some moving images of that combo or even from the camera alone!

@DFason super cool video and exellent editing! Awesome that the little guys didnt end up as food and can enjoy the lush nature instead! Would love to see a setup of your beautiful camera. cheers

We should encourage Panasonic not to cripple the S1 with a paid update for VLog and 10bit. G9 has gotten a free 10bit update. Would be very cool if Panasonic could give us the same HD quality as the GH5 too. No necessity for less HD quality than on the GH5.

Wowsers! 1986, VHS heaven:) Yeah, I love their cams, Got five of them, GF1, G6 (stopped working, did great being my first digital video camera), G7, GX85, S1. Now you Gods at Panasonic, give my GF1 that freaking VLOG update:) @Andrew Reid Do you see good reasons to not to sell the S1 and get a S5. And, do you see a good reason for new buyers to get a S1 rather than the S5. Your word on this would be super cool! Thanks!

S1 with out the VLOG and 10bit update becoming the stinker in the lineup. Not an exiting purchase I did, compared to the upcoming S5. After one and a half year after its release it is already very unattractive compared to its follow up. Selling a S1 now to video lovers feels like cheating them. @Andrew Reid Why should one buy the S1 for 10bit video these days? 200 EUR for the software update of the S1 while the S5 already has it plus 4k60 in 10bit! I´ve been a Panasonic fan for years, big time. Not anymore by heart but maybe by pragmatism due to their nice cams. Just not by heart anymore. I know cameras a banal to be worrying about. But hey, this is a camera forum and a place of joy and sometimes lamento.

That not only makes the S1 a lesser keeper in the linup but rather the stinker after one and a half year after its introduction. Will sell it I guess before prices drop too much. Was close to buy the VLOG update for 200. Not anymore.

You can buy the Lumix S5 and be happy about its astonishing video quality and great codecs. Too bad I bought the S1 instead eight months ago. Seems like the S5 is the best you can get for your money. An awesome deal! We will see September the 2nd, as Andrew stated. S1 owners will be a bit grumpy that day.:)

Time to sell the S1. At least not a good time to pay 200EU for the VLOG update. So I will film another shortfilm with one of the lesser codecs. The 10bit h265 420 75mbit is very weak on evenly toned surfaces unfortunately.

Not similar, unfortunately for S1 owners. S1 is left in the dust by the S5 with its 10bit codecs and VLOG. For the S1 you have to shell out another 200 EU for that. And still dont have the 10bit 4k60p. Making the S1 not a keeper in the line up. Better to sell now and get the S5. Not so exiting for S1 owners unless Panasonic comes up with a free VLOG 10bit update for the S1. Upgraded HD with quality like that of the GH5 would be nice too. What do you think about this? @Andrew Reid

Matti should put up the link. It´s part of journalistic work. Tech journalism on youtube must include that high standard. Someone with a youtube account could remind him in a friendly manner. Engaging and friendly communication and exchange about kewl stuff is what we all enjoy. So Matti will to put up the link and quality content can find the people who deserve to read the info and newest facts.

S5 is the entry model, so price will be lower. It has VLOG and all the 10bit codecs plus 10bit in 4K60p. As a S1 owner i will have to pay another 200EU for that, still not having 10bit 4K60. I would´nt want the 4K60 in 10bit if HD quality would be close to the stellar HD quality of the GH5, which it is by far not. All that if specs and rumors are for real, of course.

Well, supposely the specs are real, the S5 is better regarding codecs and VLog profile out of the box. Firmware update for S1 or information about it would be very appreciated. Would be a bummer to buy the VLog update right before a free one. Would be wasted 200 squids! My work with the S1 is 90% video. So S5 looks more promising to me at the moment than S1, if usuability is similar to the S1 regarding video.

Thank you. That sounds like a solution. Finally! 🙂 I was thinking about that a few hours before I read your answer but didnt follow through on the thought. Fascinating how our brains work sometimes.:) Which specific M to Konica AR adapter do you use? Novoflex or less pricey brands? What mounts and lenses do you adapt to it? I am asking, because I have a history with adapters like many of us, dealing with different qualities and experiences. The lens I want to adapt weights about 1.1kg / 2.5 pounds. It´s a big lens with 82mm filter thread. I will have to use it with lens support I am pretty sure, also as both adapters will be similar in thickness. I rent some Contax Zeiss lenses once in a while for m43 on a EF speedbooster. The C/Y to EF adapter is pretty thin and is glued to the m43- EF adapter. I think with similar thickness of both adapters, stability is a bit weaker. I have a FD to L-mount adapter that is beautifully made. I posted a picture here on the forum before. It´s made by Cieco7 and sold on ebay. I asked him about a Konica - Lmount variante. He has not answered yet. But maybe we will get a beautyfully crafted Konica to L-mount adapter some time. There might be a way to modify the Konica lens to EF mount. That way I would have a mini varicam with built in ND and a cine quality zoom lens. Guess what Konica lens I am talking about.:)

I think, the S1 looks like the poor relative to the S series, being without the nice codecs of the S5 and the 10bit 4k60p. Instead S1 owners have to pay 200EU for the software update but without 10bit 4K60p! Question is, selling the S1 now or buy the update? Some cheap used S1s will appear on Ebay soon, I think, if specs of S5 are true and if camera is without caveheats. Why the name S5 anyway- to compliment the name logic of the GH5? Makes the S1 look even more like treated as the poor relative by Panasonic. Of course S1 is still a great camera. We will know more soon. No reason to complain, just sayin.

@BTM_Pix Thanks for posting. Unfortunately its a KR mount, similar to Pentax K. Until now I have not seen any Konica Ar adapters for L mount cameras. Hopefully that will change some time. Some awesome lenses out there. Like the beautifully made 35 to 100mm 2.8, which I bought two weeks ago. I am surprised that none of the S1 owners on this forum wonder why the 10bit codecs and VLOG come with the S5 out of the box and the S1 does not offer them without the VLog update and even with it still no 4k60p 10bit

@newfoundmass great find. Thanks for posting! Now all I need is an adapter for Konica AR mount to L mount! A shame there is not one out yet.

It has 10bit 422 and even 4k60p 10bit 420 APSC. Much better than S1 without VLog update. So S1 is the entry level cam for video. 1300USD for the S5? Maybe better to sell mine now and to get a S5 later one instead of buying the Vlog update for 200EU! I think, Panasonic should give the S1 the update for free, if 10bit 4K60 included even more awesome. I have a S1 without the Vlog update and I am sofore filming with the slim 75mbit 10 bit 420. It is pretty nice indeed with its HLG. It is very bad on evenly coloured plain surfaces with super nasty artefacts and blocks if graded a bit stronger. So best to do a test before using it for professional shoots. Other than that it has great colour and gradation. It is better in the dark as well the 8bit 100mbit h264.

Exactely. They should give the S1 the update for free. Plus th 200mbit 10bit in 4K60. Anything else makes me rather want to sell the S1. Even moreso, if the HD out of the S5 is perfect like it is from the GH5. For the S5, no 24p mode in 10bit in the rumored spec list.

Sheesh, Panasonic should give the S1 a free update with the codec and recording options of the S5. Otherwise it feels pretty phoney. At least the VLog 10bit update should be free of cost.

Hallo Friends, a grim light test for a Grimms fairytale. Midsommer midday sun test. Brutal for no grip shooting day. Filmed with HLG 75Mbit 10bit 420, 6000K. Looking forward to shooting 422 VLOG some day. VLog L did pretty good on the GH5 for me two years ago.

Still have another premium kit to make one of us happy? Not me, of course, I would not buy another camera this year. Just asking. 🙂

Awesome! Congrats. Looking forward to some beautiful BMMCCMOJO!:) Interested in your rigging solution and findings about handling as well. I was obsessed with this camera for a while. Then I found one couple months ago with all bells and whistles, small rig cage, tophandle, hdmi and cable clamp, NPF battery adapter, 3D printed custom stuff, wooden side grip, Metabones Speedbooster, RAWLite oplf and ir cut filter. All for 900 USD. A great deal, which I let go. Still it seemed a lot of money for me back then. Still does, though it was a fantastic offer.

They go for some nice money. Selling it could fund a Samyang 135mm F2.0:) @noone This lens comes under different labels such as Weltblick, Porst, Beroflex. Just like Samyang going under Walimex, Rokinon... There are a few jokes about this bulky beauty on the German gentleman forum. They are not gentle about some lenses, after trying so many of them.:) Now, very exited to see that Promura to see some light. Would be cool to see some footage, if you can find time. You sound like some of these German gentlemen lens afficiandos:) I dare you to not mean it as a joke! 🙂

Right! For FF the Walimex 135mm F2.0 sounds right for rather little money. Not up for battle though:) Such a kewl review for that beautiful Voigtlaender. Doubt the Samyang has a review going like that. Vintage lovers, beware of the vintage Porst 135mm 1.8. The people on a German gentleman forum put out a warning for it due to its lack of quality. They call it a doorstopper for a reason.

Wouldnt mind owning a beautiful D16 myself neither:) Woundnt mind it as well, if the tone of this discussion would become more mellow again. Towards Jinni, coming from you. And towards you, coming from Ed. And between eachother. I always start to leave threads which turn unfriendly.