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It depends. If pension, it´s regular income, if middleclass, it might be of pleasing amount, if in Vietnam, maginficient place for filming. Overkill is all the technology we are using our natural resources on, TVs, smarphones with the calculating power of workstations just a few years ago, everything is overkill. So, taking the essence, I get out of your comment regarding 7000USd for one lens: No, I wouldnt buy it, rather have the Veydra and other fun lenses for shooting, stayin light and sharp. I would love to see more of that 16mm Veydra and that 8mm 2.0 wonder. But it also takes a lot of work to do these videos Jon does. So I am happy for the insights you gave us, Jon. Thank you for that!

I am just recognizing the terrible low light screenshots you have posted. They show super weird and nasty processing under these low light conditions. That would indeed be relevant to me if evaluating the Zs image quality. Another thing, 60mpbs bit rate for h264 UHD is too low for a variety of shots with motion rather than a photographic stills setup. So to me, I repeat, to me, it suggests, image quality is worse for the Z. Thank you for your testing, which I have always appreciated and I highly value. Just on that Z camera, I see it differently. I must say, your Yi 4K footage has impressed me. For daylight that would be a fun camera. For the not modded version, how can one tame the fisheye effect?

@Trek of Joy It would be no benefit to the EVA1:)

It is really enjoyable and it hits some serious notes as well, the disappearance of the "middleground B movie", "the important playingfield.. open for experiments", "important entrance into filmmaking". I paraphrased but put in quotes for readability. Instead of Bmovie with a B movie audience and market, there are thousands of Cmovies with almost no market and small audience on one hand, on the other we have A features- the typical stuff, Television, web stuff. In the documentary it´s noted that Wynorski already moved from C to B and some of his originial spirit and drive of the past of B movies has been lost to his newer efforts, super quickly made booby films. One guys says in the documentary about shooting time for a feature, I´m paraphrasing, "first they do it in 48, then 30, then 18, then 12, then in three days". A very interesting and fun and kinda sad but very entertaining documentary. The main actress states something impressive about her pride in working as an actress, despite the lack of opportunities for working in B and A movies again. @kaylee, maybe it does, kinda also looks like Oscar bait:) I think it does both. I am sure it does both. @mercer yeah about GH2 and GH1, we talked about that before, them kids really gave theirs cameras a ride for what they are worth. Best DSLM stuff and REAL shortfilm filmmaking. I won´t look for cool footage done with GH5 anymore, just slomo, walking behind subjects and did I say slomo. Rather watch footage of cats and trees and just people. I think I found a camera I would love to try out. Panasonic HPX-3000, 3 CCDs!, writes to cards, HD, AVC Intra 10bit 100mbps. Much more expensive still than a Sony F3 or Black Magic Cinema these days. @fuzzynormal great write up. I can really relate to that so much. Films don´t have to succeed at every level all the time, some masterpiece do, but the should rather show some kind of guts, energy, mojo. What festival are you working at. Would love to send you an entry once it´s done. It is campy in some parts, unfortunately and less so in others, unfortunately too, but it is colorful and quirky, not perfect but fun to watch. Well, it will be, once post is done:) Will watch the shortfilm you posted above in a bit.

And still more shitty movies are made than ever before. It´s human nature to sell stuff. It´s human nature to see that and reflect upon that, unless other parts of human nature take over and make people buy a Sony A6300 as A camera for a low budget feature film:) Seriously, human nature has us tricked into all different directions and has us pulled back out again. Enough talking, give me your GH5:)

I think media for f355 is not sold anymore and seems adventureous:) It was a great search for a camera. One of the Panasonic HPX series would be it I think, if for used GH4 prices. Thanks for the ride! I think for nonpros like me it could be great fun shooting with one of these. C300 II is boring and 12bit 2K for snobs:) Seriously, I wish ongoing filmmakers would shoot more with lesser cameras, that way we would have not to put up with all the glossy, polished, but heck it´s boring, crappy dull dumpster crap. I rather watch some campy stuff. Some of it is even great. @fuzzynormal I have not seen a Wynorski film yet. Just discovered him. But I think there are some very fun films from him. Fun in a fun way, not just "so bad, it´s good", but real fun. There are so many films I never heard of, worth watching. Btw, your film has great angles and editing!

Tasty. 3CCD monster writing to cards but not HD yet:/ @webrunner5, As a man who like real cameras, this looks like 3ccd HD heaven:) https://www.ebay.com/itm/Panasonic-AJ-HDX900-Professional-High-Definition-Camcorder-SKU-907539/232464554768?epid=99973132&hash=item361ff79b10:g:lpwAAOSwZB9aC1Dq Edit: does not write to cards:/ But this one: Panasonic HPX-3000:), AVC Intra 422 HD, 3 CCD, yesah!:)

not the ergo of a F900 and no 3ccd magic:). Well it was fun considering some of the oldies again and great insights into the F900. Thank you guys! Learned a lot! Just loving the idea of 3CCD 422 HD, written to cards and being an affordable "real" camera with ergos for great one operator operation. F900 close, but writing to tape and not Panasonics P2 as I assumed:) Too tough of a challenge. How about a shortfilm first?:)

The closest of having 3ccd magic HD (720p) writing to cards and not being plagued by aliasing would be the Sony AX2000, which is one generation older than EX1, which is still around 2000usd. Tape is a pain:(

I don´t find any HD trailer of the Witches film, which this documentary is about.:(

great find. another one showing it has 3:1:1 sampling http://vmi.tv/training/useful-stuff/choosing-a-digital-format

@Cinegain Wow, you´re right, legendary camera. I knew, I was up to something. Still more expensive than a GH5:) Would like to shoot something with 3 CCD magic and a nice codec. What codec does the F900 have? Writes to P2 cards I think. @webrunner5, would be cool to shoot something worthwhile with this lengendary camera, I mean a fiction shortfilm. Have not found info about codec, bitrate, color subsampling yet.

By the way, to put it with the words of Andy Sidaris: "It is still necessary that we do B-movies". A nice to watch and to hear segment from around minute 59 on, about the beauty of B film filmmaking.

Glenn, the documentary shows the production of a feature film. They show the camera a few times, which has been used for filming the feature. @Cinegain They also show that camera at 22.55. I don´t think it is possible to shoot this kind of feature with a LS300, especially not in three days. @IronFilm You shown footage with some kind of weird characters shot against a sky, very colorful costumes, some kinda futuristic power ranger ninja style of shock epic. Sony F5 in 4raw glory even? Did you distribute it? Netflix likes cool and campy action flix. Would you mind to repost it?:) I am all for cameras which enable us to have a state of mind like Wyinorski does. @webrunner5 , I think you should be right, that´s a camera that has higher resolving HD than a GH4 and equal lowlight. Way ahead of its time and still more costly than a F3 these days.

Hey guys, does anybody recognize this beauty of a camera? It is a single operator shoulder beast for feature film production. The only other second crew member was the sound guy. So anybody has produced anything like this auteur epic with a camera like this? Please no mini DV assumptions here. It is a HD camera for sure. I know that Ironfilm has done a film with plenty of cinematic energy and ninja like extravaganza with a Sony F3. But anybody with that camera like in this documentation? It´s a camera that shoots a film in three days. I would like that and use the saved money on production value for my micro budget shortfilm.

Your lowlight test in the church with posted framegrabs shows enough of a basis to say: there are a lot of GH4 videos showing much, much, much better low light quality than that. Same sensor is not enough at all, if implemented badly. EM5 Mark 1 has the same sensor as GH4 and its HD material is even much worse than GH1 quality. GH4 has better lowlight than a A6000 or a Nikon D5300 has, to compare it with cameras of its time.

@markr041, thank you for your tests. I think the lowlight shots are full of very unpleasant digital sharpening and noise reduction artefacts. Are these screencaps? Results from GH4 look better, judging from a friends footage and what´s on the web. Glenn, LX100 sounds good. Not many great video examples out there on the web but a very very few super nice ones. EVF is not best and screen is no swivel. Today I held a GX8 in my hand. Was beautiful to hold, awesome EVF. Too bad it´s without IBIS in video mode. Will be interesting to see what camera you might be deciding for. I would suggest a G85 for having some fun time. The lens in the LX100 is tempting too, but ergos, EVF and lack of mic and swivel screen and 15min 4K recording limit to consider as well. Oh well, G85 is winner:) My favorite LX100/Leica 109 video on vimeo is this one for nice but natural colors (but nice also) and whole feel of the image. My favorite color wise, also compared to other model shoots shot by another guy. This one below is showing off some nice 60p also.

Love the article, Andrew! Thanks, a super fun read and a bit of basic math is a great joy to keep the creative possibilities of different tools in perspective. On the GH5 in HD Ex Tele mode should have a crop factor of 5.6 compared to full frame photo cams, the same like cropped HD from the UHD 1.4 Ex Tele mode of the GH5. So a 600mm on GH5 with cropped HD from the 1.4 UHD Ex Tele mode would become like a 3360mm, that speedboosted by factor 0.7 gives us 2300mm compared to photo full frame for a HD glimpse on the moon.

One thing is the heavy lens. Luk stated its weight of about 5 pounds. It looks to be mounted without any lens support, which would be a statement to the strength of the camera mount, even moreso since an additional adapter has to be mounted as well.

You will be able to see blacks as whites, so nothing will be ever dark again but light:)

Haha!:)

@jonpais, Jon, do you also own the 15mm 1.7? Would love to see that in the mix. I think your testing shows off lenses exellently. Thanks again for that. One suggestion, maybe keep the ratio of expanation and showing an even 50 to 50 to have a perfect balance of the two. @cantsin looks like a fun lens definately. What´s up with the sound at 7.50 with the DJane holding the cellphone, is she recording off the amp?

Hallo, can you test your FD lens on an FD camera as well, to see if lens is faulty? Regular FD adapters are within some limits of precision but will work well without the problems, which occured during your testing. I would recommend a cheaper Focal Reducer, if you want to widen the field of view of your lens and if you want to get 1 more step of light gathering, making a f2.8 into a F2 regarding light gathering. I am using one. Optically it works very well with my 28mm 2.8 and fifty 1.4, also had a 100 2.8 on it once with great effect. My sample has a bit wobbly connection to the m43 mount. But for the price and results I am very happy with it. My focal reducer looks like this, though this model has different manufactors or distributors: https://www.ebay.de/itm/Focal-Reducer-Speed-Booster-Adapter-Canon-FD-mount-lens-to-Micro-4-3-GF6-M43-EP5/182034241663?epid=885072661&hash=item2a6216187f:g:0SwAAOSwQItUE~np You might want to repost this under the main or in the lens section, so you thread gets more attention.

There is a shooting and editing style using 1 to 4 second segments of slow motion. It gives an effect of animated stills. It is often used by DSLM/R shooters, to present their vision.expression. Due to short length of the shot in combination with slomo and with only one animate subject in the frame, this largely popular shooting style has a strong reminiscence to cinemagraphs. A lot of times that are walking backs of heads. Wedding videos often combine characteristics of stills photography and videography. The cinemagraph is the most consequent approach of moving photographs and fits the popular shooting style of videographers around the world. In the video below we see the actress like posing for a photgraph, sometimes it could almost have been a cinemagraph as well. I typed GH5 in youtube search, this shooting style goes along with test videos for a new camera.

Awesome, now I can go to bed, dreaming of that beautiful Veydra:) Have to get up in four hours. cheers