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For the GH5 that should be true. I was a cinematographer for a short (done with it in beautiful 8bit 420 HD glory, because it is so good already:). G85 has been out for a while, G7 for more than two years but hardly any shorts done with these, which one can find in the www. Hey, it´s a documentary:) Nice colors though, I can tell from zipping through the doc. The 1st one I watched entirely. It shows the challenges of making a narrative fiction shortfilm: the monologue is hard to hear (sound), some of the nice images don´t fit the narrative structure. It still is a collage much rather than a shortfilm. So still looking for the Shortfilm Fiction Pieces. Thread is open for entries! Thanks for the examples. Looking forward to it:)

super cool edit and shot design! now we are looking forward how you´re utilizing more of the S16 sensor size!

Nobody seen any. That´s supporting my findings. Most buyers of these three cams are much, much less into doing shortfilms than GH 1 2 4 shooters were. Not much GH5 content out there neither in that regard. A pity.

Hey guys, what are your favorite fiction short films with the three cameras above? Honestly I haven´t seen many done with them. There are plenty GH1, GH2 and GH4 shorts out there, but maybe not one done with the GX85. I am talking fiction, plot and dialogue. So no test videos or talking heads, just pure old shortfilms with a plot. Heck, besides Luk Neumanns and Jordans (The Camerastore) GH5 scenes there is hardly any GH5 shortfilms with a plot. But let´s keep it focused on the G7, G85 and GX85.

Awesome, can´t wait to see, what you might be able to show us with it.

This seems like a nice S16 size camcorder. So sensor being S16 size, it might be able to produce images reminiscent of S16 films, just like S35 camcorder give us that classic S35 look. Would like to see a comparision with the XC10 not just regarding XLR or not. Launch film for the XC10 had cinematic S16 quality. The new 1 inch canon camcorders might also provide that look. Would be nice, if lens could keep that 2.8 up til 70mm in S35 terms, so about 35mm in S16. Would be nice to have Tstop around 3 for that range. Maybe Dave @DaveAltizer would not shy away from shooting a little S16 cinematic piece with it.

Lumix G7 with nice HD and 4K(UHD), if you can find one for under 300, then G6, which you can even find for much cheaper. Great video qualiy and usuability. Usuability is best by far for the price. A6000 has a sensor close to S35 Film, so using lenses give the same view as on S35. On Lumix one has to use focal reducers to get the same fiel of view (FOV) with the same lenses as on S35. Myself, I am using Lumix cams with focal reducers, because the video quality is so nice. They are nice for photos as well. Like I said, very nice to use with swivel screen, mic in, nice grip, EVF, good battery life and so on. You should be able to find a G7 with all that and UHD video for around 300, but for 350 for sure. Oh, and G7 has much better HD than GX85 btw.

@jonpais, Hey Jon, I have to repeat, what others have been stating. Your Fuji footage looks awesome, the few color parts are kicking all 8bit cams in the tush too. Very impressive, espially ooc. By the way, that style of shooting and editing was really super cool. I think your best so far, up with the best vignettes I have seen on the web. Not talking about the hyperstylish Watchtower of Turkey style, which i recognize as impressive achievement but do not enjoy that much really, but the rather classic approach. Really nice editing too, like you have been watching Tony Zhous essay film about editing as an imspiration right before editing:) Would love to see some Fuji Acros BW footage with an orange filter on btw.

If it is the same old 24/28mpbs bitrate for HD in 24p to 60p, then for video the GH5 would stay the "no brainer" film camera for me. Even more, if HD is not at least up to par with G6 or G7 HD, as GX85 was two steps backwards in that regard.

Hey Phil, Jons seems to have been read wrongly. He does not evaluate the quality of your shooting, which is fine looking indeed. He recognizes a lack of resolution in the material. Afterall it´s the longest and maybe most read thread in the web, which is all about lenses. So the quality of your shooting skills reamains untouched by Jons enthusiastic praise for the Noktons:) Hope this can put a smile back onto our faces. @mercer, man you are always pulling off awesome compositions and framing. The shot at 0.40 is especially beautiful. Cannot wait to see you shortfilm!

Ahh, still love my G6, what a fun camera! GM1 is a beauty. I think it´s the prettiest Panasonic camera. If it only had a little wheel on the back like GF1, G6, etc. have. If only my GF1 had that beautiful HD the GM1 has:) GF1 is another beautiful, classic looking camera. Weird, how details make a camera a standout design classic.

I know, thats why I bought and film with three Panas (G6,7,GX85) and never compare them to Sony I am still exited doing footage with them with my manual focus lenses. What lenses do you shoot your stuff with? What camera do you shoot with most of the time?

Hey Ricardo! Really nice camera work, exellent job on that! The music, it sounds a bit like the music you hear in this kind of videos a lot. So it sounded it bit cliché like in many webdoc videos:) But! We should start the Super 8bit Challenge thread and post it as a challenge with certain rules. Give it its own thread. For my taste that would be fiction shortfilms, to begin with. Also, @mercer and @mat33, these guys should be involved in setting up the challenge, cuz it was their idea and energy. Anyway, back to your video. Great camera work, superbly done. Some nerd talk: for natural profile, give contrast 0 a try:) Gives even greater tonality for post work, not worrying about pseudodetail in shadows and highlights of the REC709 curve. This is from my experience and from some others in this forum, having started with -5, then going to -2, then settling for 0 for contrast.

Nobody around here said that. So, "No!". The opposite is the case. You got something wrong here: People find the EVA a very satisfying camera. It is a really awesome camera from what the article says, which you have been cititing. But you´ve been giving a complete wrong summuary: Newsshotters article says it is a great camera with better mixed light capabilities than sub 10.000 USD cameras from Canon and Black Magic. Good low light but no low light beast, pleasure to use, great colors- even Varicam like . To use an addtional EVF like a Zacuto Gratical Eye would also be necessary with a camera like the C300 MKII, by the way, or with Black magic cameras. So I think your post is totally wrong, completley and totally wrong on interpreting the newsshooters article to its complete opposite of what is was actually stating. Renting a GH5, on the other hand you´re right about that, is a fantastic idea in its own right of course!:) "If you are in the market for a sub $10k digital cinema camera then the EVA1 is definitely a camera you should be seriously considering." These are Matthew Allards words about the EVA in the article you´ve been referring to http://www.newsshooter.com/2017/11/01/panasonic-au-eva1-hands-on-review/

So, @mercer @mat33, what´s up with the "Super 8bit Challenge"? Nobody taking it?

Maybe 10bit and pixel perfect HD for 999? That would kick tush.

yeah, Christopher Walken is a freakin genius. I am watching Key and Peele now. Perfect combination of skit writing and superb acting. Youtube is a time bandit:) G9, are u kidding? I haven´t heard about it. I love Panasonic rumors. Where did you get that from? Maybe @andy lee, could chim in?

oh wow, it´s the official SNL youtube channel. Maybe cuz your in the US and I am not. "Normally I would offer you champanga and kaviarrrrr":) Or maybe because of embedding the clip on a European forum. Maybe try this: https://www.youtube.com/user/SaturdayNightLive/search?query=continental

beautiful looking footage. But why am I thinking about this after watching your footage? Maybe it´s my love for the arts. Wowi wow wow:)

Two weeks or so passed by since viewing 2049. Watched the original Blade Runner right before that for the first time. The original still sticks with me, whereas 2049 I remember was just worth the ride, but the original left the impression on me: striking faces, colors, sights, mood, change in pace, wonder of whats happening next, getting sucked into the scenes.

@maxotics, @kidzrevil, love your guys discussion and exchange of info. interesting read. love especially the last two shots of your footage, kidz. looking classy, classic, best 8bit sony color ever, beautiful indian summer mood. I still assume it to be challenging to shoot a shortfilm with it regarding matching shots.

I enlarged to 200% in width and heigth and put a contrast curve into play. IPB shows blocks, Intra hardly does. See image below. If not the 4k 400mbps Intra, the 200mbps Intra HD will be superior, that´s for sure.

The 420 does not make a big difference, since 422 for 6k would need to be downsampled from around 8k to show a benefit. Banding shows due to the specific implementation of h265. h265 shows stronger artefacts compared to the h264, which hardly shows any on the gh5. A7R/S cameras nor any other DSLM don´t have an 18MP video mode with a 200Mbit h265 codec. It´s a matter of processing power, which is required. H264 on the GH5 does not show these problems. Sony FS5 already struggles with internal 10bit HD, that is less than 2MPixel video! GH5 is a technical marvel, showing off whats possible with current mass produced technology.

@mercerand @Matt Kieley, have been considering it for my search:) But colors out of AX2000 represent some 3chip magic, which the Panny cam only might show with some grading tricks. The EX1 like camera body is really something too. For 1000USD one might think about a XC10, which you have also owned before, Glenn:) My bet would be, as a whole package with the three sensor appeal and an progressive image with Canon TI resolution, in a super nice body, the AX2000 would be it, if for something around 600 to 700 USD/EU. Btw, looking for a friend shooting cool stuff, but still on minDV tape in interlaced SD. Sometimes hurts me to see his cool footage interlacing like a beast:) He wants a "real" camera, as he puts it.

Hallo Dee Joslin, why not sell the GH5 and buy the AX700, since your preferences are clear. I think you are super duper wrong about 10bit not showing its advantage. The 8bit SLOG on Sony cams, even on FS700 without update, breaks apart easily. GH5 has awesome autofocus for photos. As a super exiting camera tool for the making of fiction films, autofocus is not even desired. This camera talks cinema. I shot this camera at 8bit 1080p REC709 and it gives astonishing results, C300 Mark I quality in a moderatley lit enviroment.