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@Fritz Pierre Awesome! Would love to have a few of the AMC magazines! I am shooting on s35 via speedboosted m43, shooting 28mm a lot of times, handheld with my GX85. With that setup up and shooting style, even with sloooooooow pans I have jitter when shooting with IBIS, tracking and tilting of faster pace are no problems at all. My FW is up to date. Don´t know if that is a Panny IBIS problem or just the GX implementation of it. Anybody knowing, if panning with GX85 IBIS is an issue? By the way, my 12mm on native m43 sensor has the same problem, which gives me a good reason to post a shot with it. SLR Magic 12mm at F2.0 with GX85, graded HD 24p material, shot in classic Natural with contrast 0 and color 0. Yeehaw, lil sis of GH5 showin how it goes!

Oh fuzzy, you are the master of handheld shooting. I´ve been trying with my GX85 but pans with IBIS look jerky, whereas with tilts and tracking movements it seems to be that 4K handheld wonder. Okay, my contribution for the kit: GH5 IBIS with the Tokina 28-70 2.6 and of course a nice 5´´ monitor for critical focussing and a cage. Check out @jonpais setup with his G85. One native prime: 12mm SLR Magic, the third version- the T! 1.6 version. I own version one which is nicely sharp at 2.8, gloomy at 1.6 and still soft but better at 2.0. Version three is supposed to be sharp as heck from 2.0 on. Ergos and 15cm focussing distance are awesome. Didnt see any distortion. Again, that Tokina lens is awesome:), as I can tell now from first hand, bokeh at 28mm wide open a little harsh with closer rectangular shapes in the background, focussing distance 0.7m. Below a screenshot wide open at 28mm with my GX85 in HD 24p mode, graded:

Did you find the folding rig on EOSHD? I did in one of the posts a few days ago. Looks cool. Keep us posted, if you have time and a chance to. I think there was no reason for being brisk. Answers have been given and been reflected and with interesting content. Mission accomplished. Now next missions ahead: More joyful camera action and asking questions and staying friendly. I am out of this thread now. As it feels adequate to me for a fresh and new start. cheers

I am not sure if it´s practical to describe manual techniques like handheld focussing. It might be easier to show. A stronger grip to the GX85 is necessary for ambitious handheld filming and focussing, to be found in a camera cage. @jonpais is using the same cage as I am. They are pricey. Good thing, I got mine for 40 USD. You might want to look for this one or a similar one. I attach rubber bands to the cage and the other end to the shoulder belts of a backpack, I put then one hand under the lens´ focus ring, with the other on the handgrip of the cage. You state about the usefulness of our answers and at the same time deny it. That is one of a few contradictions I read in your posts. You can support the people you ask by asking them specific questions. If necessary to you, you would follow up with a specific and friendly reply, how your question could be answered more to your satisfaction. That way it is easier to fullfill your interested and interesting and friendly request. Brandon Lis is an avid handheld DSLM shooter. Watching him is fullfilling one of many learning strategy besides the kind of answer I was giving above. Only certain shooting styles allow for handheld manual focussing. So it can make sense to watch material of capable handheld shooters in order to see if it could even be possible to achieve certain styles as a one man band camera operator and focus puller. Techniques like deep focus, Kurosawas blocking style and Brandon Lis approach would allow for that. That´s what some answers reflect on, which you have been given in this thread.

Hey Dave, was considering reading that article too. Then, I watched the video and must say, the grade is hiding the qualities of the camera well. So I stopped looing for that article but recognized that Cinema5D is publishing articles on a daily basis now, which I found overwhelming regarding the number and variety of topics. I used to enjoy to read John Behiris articles, who I haven´t read anything from for a long time now. The video above is not overwhelmingly showcasing that beautiful Oly camera in my opinion.

Useful in ways beyond the specific topics of your questions? You took some opportunities to express your dissatisfaction about some aspects of answers you´ve been given. You let us know about the persons, who we could learn a great deal about writing from, just one day ago. I named him for these exellent blocking skills. I did that as a direct and immediate reply to that advise of yours about your greatest personal idols in the writing field. I wouldnt argue, that Imaishi is more interesting. Blocking is really relevant to the question you asked. Blocking directly affects the amount of your stills technique that you can apply to video. With certain blocking like out of Kurosawas arsenal you will not have to worry about steady pull shots.

Hallo Cantsin, thank you for your post. It was very enjoyable to read about the technical limitiations of GH2 technology. Still I think that Fuji Look, as I would like to decribe the color science of the GH2, is something appealing to my eyes. Of course I cannot take into account whats due to post and whats due to the special technicalities of the GH2. It´s a nice camera with its own beautiful look but also its own limitations, that´s what I am getting out of the positives you have mentioned as well. My personal view:) would be, a fascinating camera I would like to play around with some day, if time allows. To me it has mojo besides its limitations. My G6 has that too, which Andrew Reid called the GH2.5 if I remember right, no need to hack and better in low light and dynamic range. But that little guy definately needs post on the color, but then it can look really kewl, with an exiting Fuji image.:)

@Cinegain Jazzbox, exactly! Thanks a lot! @Fritz Pierre, But I think I´ve seen some stuff from you I enjoyed as well! Haven´t you posted one, two or three of your pieces? Repost?:) @cantsin Musgo is a feature film effort. It has been shot, directed, edited and graded by the one man band wonder Gami. So I think some eventual technicalities are to be taken into account due to the conditions and huge challenge of this production. Andrew Reid stated, that a hacked GH2 is not better in lowlight than a more modern G6. Still, checking out what the skilled DSLM shooters have done with a GH2 and GH4 I recognize something special about GH2 footage: The proposed tendency of hues towards green to me is rather that of FUJI negative film. Whereas Sonys tendency towards yellogreenish colors gives the footage a look of digital crayon in photoshop, lacking transition and fitting combination of different hues.

Hey Fritz Pierre, I think you have posted some samples of your work that I really enjoyed. Italian pop music video with a G6? Please help me out:)

If anyone does want to work on their blocking ability, I recommend Akira Kurosawa's work - it gave us Seven Samurai and Stray Dog, so you can't deny it has scope.. It seems with your approach in dealing with this topic and its arguments, you have named your best personal advises yourself by drawing conclusions from the flaws you see in the arguments of others. How long have you been following posts of this forum? Have you been an EOSHD member before? I am asking, because your approach to challenge ideas and communication seems unique to me.

Well deserved. On my larger monitor it looks even more awesome!

I would get a Lumix G6, great HD quality, great efficient and small and gradeable codec. Exellent usability for video shooting. G6 for 200 bucks and Davinci Resolve for free, to get the color of your choice! Go:)

@meanwhile The 1.8 Ultrons have a different design and different coating. The Rollei Planars and Zeiss ones share the same design and equivalent coating. @Parker s advise, I would second, CY Zeiss 50mm 1.7. What is your favorite 50mm when you do photography?

Glenn, I am blushing:) You are the master of joyful wording! I am an avid reader of your comments! Big hug from across the mighty ocean, my friend! You are welcome any time at my house!

Thank you for pointing out this beautiful research method. I´ve posted about this exiting notion before in other threads that certain cameras have been shot by certain kind of people. Yashica 35CC is an example for that, a rangfinder photo camera. I am aware of that just like Jean Claude van Damme is about the splendid spread of his splits. It is great fun to find awesome stuff that way and doing splits meanwhile. The proof of awesome work done with one camera is not taken away by the lack of proof of work from another camera. Motion cadence, jittery motion or lack of jitter, ooc color quality, low light behaviour, these are veryveryvery few parameters to evaluate a digicams image. I have mentioned these above to give a hint towards comparablity other than just and only mentioning of mojo. That is where "the problem" or another with an image occurs, which is worthy to be brought up, as they are central to image quality. That´s a problem to some people, an occurance to others and nothing to worry about to others as well. Good thing for buyers is, nobody has to buy a GH2 for the price of a G85, if one just digs that GH2 image. Mojo, groove, exitement is not bound to cracks in a record and the likes. I don´t see that as an argument at all, meanwhile you´ve been referring this to Jon Jacobs but leaving out arguments been made about image quality. 4K to HD is an extra step regarding codec conversion and time, 4K H264 grading without downsampling is limited to people with the adequate hardware. 60p is not available in 4K resolution on GX85.

@Jon Jacobs, That you´ve been shooting the GH2 professionally is a testament to you and the camera. Have you been shooting GX85 professionally? Would you have the chance to post an example of professional work for each, the GH2 and the Gx85? I think it´s in the nature of filmmaking to appreciate the work and achievements of others. Much talent has posted their work on vimeo to be seen by a public audience. GH2 is showing off quiete a body of work done with it. GX85 close to none so far. HD is bad compared to G6 or GH2. Motiion cadence is murky with pans and tilts compared to my G6. Maybe my GX cam is faulty in that regard. OOC color is nice, that´s right, lowlight too.

I own a GX85 myself and OOC color is much better than from my G6. Still, so much awesome GH2 footage and many great looking shorts on vimeo, but only very few pretty clips with the GX85, no shortfilms so far. And, GX85 has underwhelming HD.

Aaron, enough of these. This is your second post with awesome screenshots within one week. And again no moving images. How can you do this to us? When will you be showing us some of that kewl footage?

Hey Glenn, I found this guy who might know a bit about camera testing. Always with a grain of salt though: @KarimNassar, who did the awesome footage above, might still remember a deal about the GH2.

Quoting myself:) This video of yours looks like you shot it with a RED Epic. I forgot to put the link in my post above. Awesome image you squeezed out of the Samsung cam!

Holy cow, rewatching the Concrete Island piece from Michael Mills. At 36 seconds- epic shot. Movement within the frame, framing, geometry, light, location. Perfect! And how generous these afficiandos have been on background info, like on this one: Olympus 17mm F1.8 coupled with the AG-LA7200 anamorphic adapter. Camera: GH2 (1080p24, Dynamic B&W Film Mode) Additional filters: Black Pro-Mist 1/4, Red 1 (25) Looking epic, this epic GH2. Check out Andrew Reids GH2 stuff, no ugly muddy LUTs, just nice study of composition, light and movement and lens choice.

Glenn, I read only the best stuff about the Minolta 35- 70 3.5 Macro, the third version of the 35 70. That might also be a super cool lens speedboosted. I got my 12mm SLR magic now. It´s the first version, the F1.6 one, not the T1.6 version. It has the focus wheel close to the lens mount. At f2.8 it´s reasonably sharp, popping at F4. 1.6 very gloomy, 2.0 already better, half way between 2 and 2.8 not too bad. It´s a fun lens. But boy, it is a beast when it comes to handling movement and geometry and speed of movement. Not easy to master without a tripod. GX85 stabilization does not dampen cheesy camera work. 12mm length is unforgiving when it comes to movement. All in all a great lens, but version 1 is not a resolution wonder above 2.8. Would put it in the same category as Walimex 24mm 1.4. resolution wise. Mechanically it is a joy to use. For handheld shooting the position of the focus ring is also nice ergonomically. All in all a winner for the 190 EUR I paid. Very happy! It´s a beauty on my GX85! With practice the right lens for awesome camera work.

I think these GH1 and GH2 pioneers put a lot of art and craft into the creation of every frame. Like going by Tony Zhous motto "every frame a painting", they have been following the route "every frame a stills photograph". Check out Michael Mills´s GH2 pieces and vignettes of art. Quality ratio of GH2 and GH1 and 5DII on vimeo is very high.

Now you have all the things on the table to rock your GX85. You have shown readers of the forum a nice deal of your own knowledge. Is the GX85 your first DSLR/DSLM for shooting video? If so, great camera to start with!

@Nicholson Ruiz Hey Nicholson! I like the flow of your video and the three settings. I wouldnt worry about matching the looks as they occur on the three different locations. Only thing, if nitpicking, a very few changes/cuts between locations seem not hundred percent perfect, maybe due to a free and flowing approach. Very nice video, locations, talent in front of the camera, nothing to worry about matching the two cams, I must say. By the way, this video of yours looks awesome. Red Epic, anybody?