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Would be cool, if they would let us use all these camera's side by side at IBC. Like ZCAM F6, S1H, Sigma FP, Mavo LF and shoot exactly at the same time with the same lenses. So we can see the image(colour science and DR) first hand and compare which one comes out as a winner image wise.

From these tests it looks like the bokeh from the 65mm is a bit smoother, seems to have a little more contrast and the color is a bit warmer. But the 50mm overal looks a bit sharper. Hmm maybe the 65mm is still the one I should get, as I think it will be better for close ups. I shoot more close ups then wide shots. I guess plugging a extender between a atlas orion anamorphic and the camera does not work right? (as one would do with tele spherical lenses for example?)

Did anybody did a comparison between the 65mm and the 50mm? For me the 65mm still looks the best, but I havent shot with any of them before.

I would be only buying the 65mm I think, which one did you prefer? Do you think its worth owning these?

Sorry guys to bump in, but what is the best lpE6 canon battery alternative for the pocket 4K? Looking to buy some new lpe6 batteries, but the canon ones are quite expensive. So I have read in the thread ravpower, jupo,... but which is currently the best lpe6 battery with the longest lifespan? Also gonna buy a double or triple charger. thx

The only thing that I find weird is that everybody is going bonkers over a paid update on another cam, but nobody is talking about the 600 euro price increase on the f6 body.

There are no cinema camera's with ibis though, prolly never will as you dont want a floating sensor on a cinema camera.

Yeah not sure what the best investment is a new Camera or new lens. The atlas orions run 1K cheaper if you still decide to buy one in september though. But I will need to spread the cost over several years, so not sure if its going to be worth it.

This looks pretty good indeed, do you know what lenses they used? Well it depends, for me it does, as I already invested in Cfast like a lot of other cinema camera users. Maybe they could have used cfast to store prores raw internal also instead of atomos recorder(but I guess its more of a licensing issue)

I was planning on going, but CVP raised the price on the F6 with 600€. So I will prob pass on it as its out of my budget suddenly, otherwise I would have gone there and compared the footage between the F6, F8 and UMP. Where is the A7S III?? They are way too late to the party. I see a lot of users changing to the camera's above in the near future, Sony should get in there.

Yeah intrested to see some great narrative/commercial/lit footage with it. The footage may look too clinical, but time will tell. Too bad its only prores raw through external recorder. Also a problem that you cannot even use prores raw in Resolve. So there is no point in even shooting prores raw right now. So BM has got them cornered in that department. Kinda sucks that they use SD instead of Cfast though.

They just increased the price of the F6 by 500 euro on cvp.... Now its out of the equation for me.

Old news though, but def eying the F6. But waiting on more footage and codec/workflow updates.

How much DR though? Looks like a great camera, but the pricepoint is a bit hard to justify for most of us.

Auto audio select would be great, i have messed up many shots/takes when I forgot to switch between xlr or in camera audio(and in the end did not record any audio)

+1 I got a question already. What monitor and battery solution would you suggest using a E2 cam? I like it portable, so I can just tuck it away in my backpack. (I dont want to remove the monitor everytime) But even more importantly how do you guys power the E2 and the chosen monitor? At the same time with the same battery would be awesome, as I hate charging and switching batteries at the same time. But I dont want to use any v-lock batteries as it makes the rig too big for travelling purposes. And I need to be able to rig it onto a ronin S. Any suggestions? Thanks!

I am thinking the same thing. They could have destroyed canon, nikon and panasonic years ago, but for some reason they did not bother. Maybe they underestimated the demand for video on dslr and mirrorless.

I hope so, but doubt it very much. Prores RAW would be already pretty sweet. But Resolve does not even support it at this point. So shoutout to BM, please make this happen. As your competition is ahead of you on that part. (scratch, baselight, Edius, premiere) I get that they dont want to do it, as they want to push BRAW, but as an editors standpoint I do not choose the codecs or camera's my clients work with and Im forced to use something else then resolve for editing.

I still would dump my pocket 4k for 5d iv raw.

Im confused why the european one is more expensive, as he also lives in the eu. Surely shipping outside the eu should be the more expensive one.

Well on reduser RED is saying something else. But only time will tell though, as anybody can say what they want on the internet.

Why does apple bother anyway? (They arent creating cinema cameras as far I know, or are they planning to implement compressed raw onto the next Iphone? Imagine a full frame sensor with compressed raw with usbc out to record to t5's on an iphone, that would be a real pocket camera you always have with you) Is this also the reason why we have been stuck with shitty codecs for the last 10 years on dslr and mirrorless cameras? If not for this patent, would we already had compressed raw in our 5d, a7s, gh,... cameras like 10 years ago?

Yeah zraw is a bad move though. Why would anyone use a raw format that you cannot import in any nle? They should have implemented braw or prores raw instead.

I guess it will be a hit and run depending the sensor. If its a full frame or S35 at 6k full sensor readout with proper DR it will sell like hotcakes. But they will piss off every other redowner who spent multiple times that amount on a red previously. (Remember the horrible crop on the red raven)

Yeah I applaud Red what they have done for the industry, but they may did themselfes in. (Crazy prices, lawsuits against everyone, competition is catching up to them while nobody can touch arri)