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Well I don't even like the handheld look. But it does not matter really. You can stilll judge an image even when its shaky. Wheter with poorly footage you cannot. So surely Jun can get a pass for this one. If this was an actual video not a camera test video. Then it would be a whole different situation.

haha you might be right about the toddlers. Yeah I am even agreeing about the part about leaders and followers. But bullies are no leaders though. I never followed anybody in school, neither lead nobody either. There were no role models in my school, just kids more or less the same like me with different skillsets. Maybe I am too much of an outsider though.

Well that's not true. If it was inborn, toddlers would do the same and they love anything. They are molded by society, media, friends, parents into this. Its not even the bully's fault. Survival of the fittest would mean I could not win in a fight against them. And thats not true, I have kicked bully's asses who were 2 times as big as me. But the amount of shit I had to deal with afterwards is unbelievable (teachers, parents, students,...) so I changed my attitude and just let them be, so I was another victim of conformity and in my case for the worse looking back. So I am teaching my kids otherwise, if somebody picks on them, you slap them until there is no tomorrow! And they will get zero shit for me while doing so and I will protect them from the shit they get from the teachers/parents/school... And if my kids are bullying, they will get shit from me! Please god no more slowmo. You can't watch any video that is not slowmo these days. Look at me slowmo walking in Iceland, look at me slowmo walking in asia,... Been guilty of that myself though. But it sure has peaked new levels these days.

Well I hoped to say it was only on the internet. But if you think about it, its in real life as well. As its allways been. Would be actually a good idea to bring up the next generation with a positive attitude and weed out the negative. If you look back to high school, its a popularity contest, I hated evevery minute of it. Sure teenagers are pumped up angry kids, but why take it out on each other, people should not care what clothes you wear, what music you listen too, your physical state or your medical state. And sure I have offered my right sheek too many times looking back at it, while I know it was a better idea just to knock their teeth in. So they actually learned a lesson, but that was not how I was raised.

I like to underexpose myself, because the most important thing for me is the mood. Well offcourse a shortfilm like the release of the C300 would be MUCH better marketing. But I liked this video of the vintage lens, and it does not look overly sharp. These are just quick test shots from the users, and not pieces of art that can stand on their own, So I am not bothered by the story or meaningfull moves, I am just looking at the image at this point. Stabilization at this point was not relevant for me, as its easy to stabilize this camera so I was not bothered with the handheld jitter. Nice to see how it performs handheld. A few pans couldnt hurt anybody though to see the rolling shutter.

I think its my favorite so far (people are looking for different things) Skintones look nicely soft compared to the other videos so far. (looking on small monitor now though) Could be still a little smoother with a soften filter though.

So prob there is news at IBC or photokina. People who are going can you check them out and report?

Well thats where prores comes in, a codec that edits like butter. Comparing vs the A7S III, panasonic full frame codecs. But I do agree a lot of users will switch back, because they want ibis and a camera that does all the work for them

Great some testers have stepped up it seems. Really exited about this one.

Thanks, but dual slots if possible should give it twice the performance right?

How so? You only have a one sided story here.

Maybe you were'nt planning on the buying the camera anyway? Why anybody would get this discussion get in the middle of buying a camera is beyond me.

IBC maybe, photokina def skipping.

As far as I know they have not send the camera to any reviewer. Just to some people to shoot some stuff with. I do not know who hosted the bm event, or if you knew the guys who hosted it. But does it really matter, maybe they were planning on doing this on a later stage. Sure I would have loved to shoot a test video as well, as a lot of users here or have seen a review by you, but a company cannot do good for everybody. So don't take it personal, as reviews shouldnt be influenced by emotions either. So its not worth getting worked over for really. I dont think John works for BM. I am glad he is on the forum providing information and answering questions. Roger Deakins is a class apart offcourse, but he doesnt have the time to reply or answer questions all that often.

Do you know what the max data transfer on the 5D IV is? Is it the same as on the 5D III? If so then it kinda sucks. I wish they would have used cfast 2.0 on the 5D IV. Because this wast the bottleneck on the 5D III right? But maybe there is a possibility of dual slot? Writing one frame on the CF and one frame on the SD? Not sure if if possible? So what could we expect from the 5D IV RAW over the 5D III? - 2K full frame RAW @ 60fps? continues - Higher Iso (Not sure at this point until what point the 5D IV noise begins to settle in, the 5D III was iso 1600 max for me) - 1 extra stop of DR - Better playback - HDMI for monitoring

I wonder about 10bit. And if they include it, it will be a shitty codec. Prores would be an awesome upgrade for any dslr/mirrorless camera.

Aah too many cameras to consider... 5d iv with magic lantern working Pocket 4k A7s iii (if its 10bit) Probably in that order for me.

Yeah the timing kinda sucks. I wish they got this working 2 years ago. Would have saved me 6k haha. Hopefully with the faster processor and all we can get fluid playback and maybe hdmi out as well so we do not have to rely on the small screen. Pretty exited for this one. And I was sure to get the pocket 4k as a Bcam. But now I am getting drawn back in to Canon it seems.

Oh my, I might get a 5d iv if they get it working and if thz footage looks amazing. 60fps 1080p raw full frame.

Main problem is that there is no EF mount adapter out yet. And 90% of dslr filmmakers are shooting with EF lenses. (or with an adapter to EF).

Well I dont like to use 4K RAW. I only need full HD RAW. but I guess if they would hack this camera the RAW for 1080p would be cropped.

Because they made the cameras who are already 6 years old look better then most cameras released today. But yeah it has been a while, and it def needs a fresh wind. This camera could might deliver that. 1080p 60fps RAW. Which would make this an awesome camera for me.

Sounds like a plan.

Yeah its the only vid that uses nice glass. I really hate that digital sharp look. But to each their own I guess

Ok the specs arent up to 2018 standards, but lets wait and see some side by sides. As IQ is where its at, not just random numbers on the screen.