John Matthews

I was referring to your Feb 11 Youtube video. I've watched a lot of your videos... you're either a pro camera collector or pro camera reviewer. Which one is it or both? I liked the GX7, but the camera strap ring was digging into my right hand when I held it... Amazon's return policy is 30 days in France. The GX80 was only marginally more expensive. That's all.

Well, if the tiltable viewfinder and focus button are what toots your horn, go for it! For me, it wasn't. Funny enough, you never did put the GX7 on your top 5 list, nor any other M43 camera. I'm beginning to think you don't even like the system. Again, I'm not a pro-reviewer... just a consumer on the lookout.

No, just a pretty good camera for its time. That's all. I'm not a professional camera reviewer. I get a camera and stick with it for 5 years or so until the tech gets a generation better. I shoot the things that please me and try to have fun with it. The GX9 isn't a generation better over the GX80 IMO. I had the GX7 for about a month and the GX80, in terms of footage, seemed a generation better. In Sweden, I guess. I don't plan on selling mine anytime soon. Again, I don't need to get the money to buy another camera to review. I just shoot for pleasure.

Good for you if you don't mind the crop. I was just comparing the two offerings from Panasonic. I paid 599 Euros for my GX80 when it came out. I've seen it new for as low as 20% off, but I'd be surprised to see it for 50% off (link?). At $999 with the 12-60 Panasonic lens (too bad they didn't match it with the 20mm or even the 14mm and make it less expensive), the GX9 isn't as good of a deal IMO, unless the GX7's usability features were really important to you. The Panasonic 12-60 is too big of a lens for this camera IMO; it's a much better match for the G7, G8, G9, GH4, etc..

I'm not certain, but I think this camera will have a significant crop in 4k, like the gx8 did. Unless it has full-sensor readout, it will not be worth the upgrade from a gx80/85... maybe for the gx8 due to IBIS, but why not get a gx80/85 in that case at a great price?

New info to sweeten the deal: you get a 12-60 Panasonic lens; that sounds much better. With it, you're getting an upgraded sensor and a tiltable viewfinder. If the viewfinder is also better, it WOULD be worth it. I still won't be upgrading though...

I'm guessing this is the newest version of the gx80/85 according to the rumor sites: LUMIX DC-GX9 / GX7MK3 Effective 20.3 million pixels 4/3 type Live MOS sensor. Low pass filterless 5-axis Dual I.S. for 4 stages of camera shake correction effect. Electromagnetic drive type mechanical shutter Continuous 9 frames / sec 4K30p video / 4K photo 3 type 124400 dots touch panel liquid crystal Focus bracket / aperture bracket Wi-Fi · Bluetooth installed Size: 124 mm x 72.1 mm x 46.8 mm Weight: 450 g North American Price: Body $ 999 Personally, I'm not that impressed by the price.

When you say you got "tired of working with 4k," is it more processing time, disk space, too much detail, etc.?

I've certainly seen some nice shots on a hacked GH2. Having never owned one, one always needs to imagine how good it looks without the compression. It's funny because the GH5S is bringing back the multi-aspect sensor- something the GH2 already had and we lost with the GH3, GH4, and GH5. To my eyes, the GX80 has a slightly different color algorithm than the GH4 and I'm satisfied. The GX80's size, colors, 4k, and IBIS trumps the hacked GH2's 1080p, but right now the GH2 is half the cost- not bad. Personally, the GX80's still a value option that's hard-to-beat. It gets the job done for me. I still haven't seen any features in any of those new Panasonic cameras that would merit the price jump. Secondly, the GX80's successor is going to have to be pretty damn good to convert me.

I meant a hacked GH2 would be an option for someone who had nothing. Yes, the gx80 produces an excellent image... so does the hacked GH2 for the money ($200).

As Panasonic is throwing new cameras at us (GH5=$2000, GH5S=$2500, G9=$1700), it would seem that they've forgotten the lower budget that the GX80/85 (<$600) brought us. I really don't do anything that would warrant a budget upwards of $1500. I hope the DSLM doesn't just have a future like these expensive flagships Panasonic is offering. I share the opinion of the Drew Network when he was talking about the GH2... and moving to a GH3. I think something similar is happening now these newer Panasonic cameras concerning pricing. Drew is a funny guy... wish he made more videos. Anyway, here's where he speaks about that. Actually, a hacked GH2 is probably still an option.

I believe it's due to the insanely small design of the lens and having to move a "large" front element whereas faster focussing MFT lenses move smaller elements inside the lens. I've heard it's a great lens though.

Quick question: Is the quality better for AVCHD or MP4 in 1080p/25fps on the GX80?

Has anyone tried EOSHD Procolor with Cinelike D?

That's great! After setting one Custom setting to Cinelike V and the other to Cinelike D, you can make all the adjustments (Custom, Sharpness, NR, Saturation), save and still keep all the same settings on reboot. Nice, but stupid Panasonic didn't just include it if it's already there... probably taken out by some marketing dude to help sell more G80/GH5 units. Oh well, can't complain too much about the GX80, "the good enough/close enough" camera. It keeps getting better and better. Thanks BTM_Pix!

So this is really cool! Great work. I did some tests this morning. My question now is: what are the other settings in the profile in terms of contrast, sharpness, NR, and saturation? Can't seem to find that information.

I haven't messed too much with the highlights and shadows. IMO, when shooting 4k, you've got a lot to play with. With settings, I'll say it depends mainly on your liking. I CAN tell you they can mess up the image in some situations- notably, contrast at -5 in soft light will not do justice to some people's skin. I did that once. After learning that, I don't fidget too much anymore. Mine are -2, -5, -5, 0 and nothing to the highlights and shadows. Also, I use AWB. The G85 seems like a great camera, but I'd still prefer the GX80 due to size. Panasonic actually moved the strap mounts further forward from the GX7 (on the right side). This was a major improvement. Still, I'd rather have an inset strap mount, flush with rest. "Useless" is a strong word, but you're right that I'd say this camera was made for smaller lens/camera combos. There aren't any adapters out there to raise the body off the attachment plate that don't protrude under the lens mount?

VICTORY! Fist EOSHD thread to make it to 200,000 views! A true testament to the popularity of the GX80/85! Still using mine on a daily basis.

Edited. Thanks. I don't believe that's how this particular Trojan works though. This is more of the spying type.

I'm willing to bet that most mac people had handbrake already, and they would have upgraded via the in-app upgrade which is not affected. If you downloaded it as a clean install, there's a 50% chance you got it. If it were me, I'd wipe the drive, reinstall everything, restore from backed-up data (this depends on how you configured your backup process). Once your system is compromised, there's no going back IMO.

This video (Alexa vs. iPhone 7) makes me wonder how the GX80 would do shooting in 4k and down-sampling to 1080p. I'm guessing it wouldn't have the latitude of the Alexa in post, but it would still run laps around the iPhone 7. Interesting watch...

No... not in theory. The GX80/85 has 5 axis IBIS on the sensor regardless of E stabalisation settings.

Try both and use what you like best. It's been a point of contention in this thread. Personally, I don't use the electronic stabalisation.

That camera looks good and small, but it has another fault other than no IBIS- no manual video mode. No setting the shutter speed other than the Exposure Lock button... I don't know why they dumbed it down so much, but I'm pretty sure it's due to the existence of the GX80 and the G85.

I'm still quite happy with my GX80 and I won't be selling it anytime soon. It's taking great photos and videos. I could mention some negatives, but the fact of the matter is that this camera is good enough. I couple it with the ZOOM H1 positioned close to the subject and I've found it an impressive match for many systems... still state of the art in 2017.