John Matthews

Good point. I think the reasoning is that AWB gets it close enough for the LUT to work. I'm sure you could dial it in as well. IMO the GX80's AWB is pretty good and I rarely have issues. Therefore, I'll do it for simple ease-of-use.

I'm not 100% sure, but to my eye, EOSHD Procolor has fixed something that has bothered me about Film Convert for some time- the tendency to turn skintones rather white. Also, you seemingly don't need to WB anymore... just leave it in Auto WB and that's it! Now my only major "problem" with Procolor or Film Convert is the time to render. Granted, I don't have a video card, only a Ivy Bridge i7, but it took about an hour to convert 2.30 of video this way... too long IMO.

Where do you see it clipping? Her face? Maybe my monitor is out of wack... I can see the that the red skintone is significantly reduced between pictures 2 and 3, but I don't see a major increase in the green in picture 3... at least not to the point I say to myself- "it's green!" Anyway, I like both better than the first one.

I made a quick test with all the recommendations listed in the EOSHD Procolor pdf with the exception of NR (which I set to -5). Here are some results as to what it does to my daughter's skin color in front of window light: 1) The original: 2) EOSHD Procolor applied 3) Just for fun, EOSHD Procolor and FilmConvert FJ Velv 100 Let me know what you think. I like it.

I just purchased "EOSHD Pro Color for Panasonic Cameras" as I said I would multiple times on this thread. I'll give you my feedback here for the GX80 while using FCPX.

There are not many categories where the GX80 would be number 1 compared to its pears. It's just a great all-rounder. Hey, if you can live with the A6300, great!

The test you mention isn't scientific at all; yet, you draw objective conclusions... not mentioning the fact of price. I doubt many would argue that the A6300 can produce a better image on a tripod with little to no movement, but how often do you do that? This is the question. And exactly how much is that worth to you? You would still have to deal with all those ergonomic and menu flaws... Yeah, I'll stick with the GX80. Easy choice.

@jase, Are you going to show us any test shots? It looks like a big, but really killer setup!

Limitations: 0-255, only a 30p (29.97p) option, perhaps more moiré IMO Benefits: multiple aspect ratios (1:1 has 2880 vertical lines!), more creative options perhaps.

Not that it's important or that anyone's counting, but this thread has just passed the threshold of becoming the most popular thread on EOSHD in terms of posts (over 1400) and views (over 142,000 and climbing) just overtaking the previous top dog "Surprise! Sony Alpha A6000 video mode huge improvement."

That leaves just us! Seriously, I doubt 0-255 is a big deal.

I believe it's 0-255 in 4k photo rather than 16-235 in normal video mode.

Interesting results. I think the two main ingredients for better noise performance in photos are bigger sensor and more megapixels. Also, they shouldn't be compared at 100% unless they are the same number of megapixels. At 100% on a screen, the Sony looks worse; yet, the Sony probably would perform better on paper since it has a slightly bigger sensor and 8 more megapixels. Still, DXO got the GX7 wrong, especially compared to other MFT cameras. Also, how is it possible that the GX7 has better DR and Color depth than the GX80 according to them. I call BS. In my tests, it also has the trade-off of more moiré. You do get some camera-setting advantages and multiple aspect ratios which is interesting but not for me if it means more moiré.

That's because DXO is full of horsepoo... and always has been. I can't help thinking that there's someone's eccentric uncle spitting out random numbers atop of a building paid for by camera manufacturers. They've got a serious racket going!

This is consistent with my results. Midtones are brought down as you increase the contrast. But be careful in flat light as I found some weird skin color tonality that was uncorrectable. I now believe contrast should be set to "0" in very flat light. Did you also note the higher noise frequency in the dark parts of the image?

Wow! In effect, would that give the GX80 a crop factor of 1.29 in FF terms? For the IBIS, would you still dial in the focal length written on the lens? Are Canon APS-C lenses big enough? Doesn't is worry you that they say: "Do not attempt to mount- physical damage may occur." Could be bad.

I've always preferred a more "organic" feel. Not this begs the question: why not "-5"? Doesn't the 4k offer enough headroom in terms of detail? Do you find it's doing something weird? I've come back on my contrast settings. I've found that when in flat light, skin colors will do strange things (weird orange color shifts) with contrast at "-5" and I couldn't make it look right. I bumped it back up to "0" in flat light. Also, after my previous findings, there isn't any reasons for protecting highlights with it set at "-5". I only found slight noise differences in the shadows when bumping up the midtones.

Thank you Axel, I tried it, but I think there might be a learning curve for this plugin. I'll try some more today and tell you what I think.

Has anyone been using the effect marked "Hue/Saturation" in Final Cut Pro X for correcting skin tones? I'm having better results than using the color correction tool. I'm just wondering if others have done this and experience major drawbacks....

Wise. You have the opportunity now to get the new one, do it. What happens if the next one does it, I don't know? Please let us know what/if Panasonic responds... we need to keep them in check.

When I make the motion you talk about with it on or off, I don't hear anything. To hear the IBIS rattle, I need to shake it when it's off. However, I cannot say that it's never done that. I seem to recall it did it a few times. My guess is that it's ok. I don't know the return policy for Amazon in Austria, but I imagine it's 30 days like in France- when sold by Amazon. When in doubt, I'd get another one rather than trying to deal with Panasonic... it'll be too long without a camera. You could call them though just to double check. It's a lot of money to only have it break and be out of a camera for months while they repair it. Hope that helps.

Hmm... I don't have any audible sounds when mine is turned on, even when I shake it. Did you buy it in Europe? Make sure the IBIS is 100% functional. What lens are you using? Wait. Are you talking about your GX80 or G80?

It's not that loud, but you can hear and feel it move around. Shake it when it's off. It's just the IBIS moving around. Turn it on and it will stop.

Good luck! I hope you enjoy it. Get a MFT Sigma lens and you'll be amazed how many "clacks" a camera can make- borderline maraca! This is not my worry though with the mechanism. I more worried about the wiring behind the sensor... wouldn't it break after all the bending around? Time will tell. Let's hope that Panasonic did their due diligence in their design.

Yes. It's normal. Actually, I wonder if the G80/G85 does the same since they have slightly different mechanisms.