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Panasonic GH5 Review and exclusive first look at Version 2.0 firmware
Rand Thompson replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
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I think it's pretty much official amongst GH4 owners, myself included, that Vlog-L was meant to be used with a 10-bit external recorder. I'm no techie, but from what I understand from the guys who seem to be much more knowledgable than I , 8-bits is not enough for most LOG profiles. Some disagree and point to canon's C-log 8-bit codec to show that 8-bits is enough, but, hey, i don't know.
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I'm working with Vlog-L on the GH4 which has it's own issues with magenta/cyan macro-blocking. I Have only owned the Sony A6000, so I have completely no experience with S-Log other than the clips Andrew uploaded from the A7sII. Maybe its just some setting in the camera that needs to be changed, hopefully not a continuation of the issue with the A7s.
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Kaylee, A Goth but an older one, I remember when "Black Tape For A Blue Girl" was still actually "Black Tape For A Blue Girl" not the cover band they seem to have become today. Haven't really checked out whats new at Projekt.com in a while. I don't have much experience with sony slog other than what andrew has graciously provided for download. I have the GH4, and 8-bit internal V-Log-L is producing magenta -cyan macro blocking in skies, areas of continuous uniformed light colors, and so forth. Most with GH4s have come to the final conclusion that to get the best out of V-Log-L it is essential that you get a external 10-bit recorder to do it justice. When I saw that Andrew had posted some sample S-Log3 footage for analysis and or grading, I thought I would see how it compared to the what I was getting out of V-log-L. From fooling around with S-Log 3, I find I initially like it better than V-Log-L. This could be because of the lack luster log to linear conversion LUT panasonic recommended for conversion, simply panasonic's inexperience to optimized a log profile for a camera in this particular price range or panasonic just wanting V-log-L to be compatible with Varicam V-Log LUTs. I'm not smart enough to give you an informed opinion on which. I have graded V-Log-L and S-Log3 both form scratch, with Avid Media Composer for V-Log L and Adobe After Effects for S-Log3. I have also Graded Both using LUTs I made with LUTcalc version 2.1 which you can modify for most of the various log profiles currently available you can try it here: https://cameramanben.github.io/LUTCalc/LUTCalc/index.html From grading from scratch and using LUTs, I like the the way LUTs interpret the log footage to linear space better. I was told from others after finding out that i thought grading from scratch was better than using LUTs that you could still get a good grade from grading from scratch, however the interpretation from log to linear would be better with the use of LUTs. I didn't believe them then, I believe them now. I don't ever want to get rusty not grading from scratch but I think, IMHO, both combined are better than doing it entirely with just one or the other.
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Gregormannschaft reacted to a post in a topic: Shining a light - Sony A7S II first impressions & 4K S-LOG 3 clips for download / grading
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I understand what you are saying, but I learned a long time ago that a grade is completely in the eye of the beholder. Some people will hate my grade some people will love it. I have seen grades that are technically too dark and some that were too bright. I have seen grades that I thought were technically too red, green or blue, too saturated( my own included) and not saturated enough. Some times you have to look at a grade not in "your own taste"or on it's technical accuracy but as someones else's artist expression, right or wrong and appreciate it for that.