Phil A

Edit: Nevermind. So there's still no sample pictures of the new focal reducer.

Can't answer most of the stuff but these two. - Lens choice is second to none, Fuji has the best system of APS-C lenses, especially considering that they have a whole set of f/1.4 lenses. Downside is the focus by wire, but you'll get that with basically all lenses native to the mirrorless systems (helps with autofocus speed). There's no IBIS and most lenses don't have stabilization either but then none of the two could replace a gimbal or steadicam anyway. The X-T2 has less jello indeed than the A6500, roughly 30ms vs 39ms, there's still some discussion I think if the boost mode with the battery grip actually helps further. So it's on the same level as for example the A7s II. It's ok and useable but not ideal. The 1080p mode of the NX1 spoiled me completely on that front unfortunately so I can hardly adjust to the A6300 rolling shutter (which is quite good in 1080p on the Sony but the image way worse).

I don't think you consider how industrial development for these kind of products works as a whole investment. It doesn't matter if the material for the sensor is the same as the Sony one or Canon one. Companies have expenses for research and development, prototyping, etc. which is all humongously expensive, then you will often face manufacturing issues in the first time with the result of discarding whole batches or (worse) to recall the first products for replacement or fixing. You have to factor in that many research projects might also plain fail, the investment being a complete write off, so these will have to be compensated by the successful products, too. As a result, new technology that is cutting edge will always be crazy priced to recover the cost asap and allow you to innovate further before competition can catch up to your level. Will it be commodity priced in 3 to 5 years? You bet, but by then the investment for that product generation or technology is paid off and you made profit on top (or you filed for bankruptcy) and you already work on the next big thing. Alternatively, companies cross subsidies. Don't you see how many companies don't rely on that camera business (poor Nikon though) but actually make not too impressive financial figures that are mainly sustainable due to cross subsidizing within these huge corporations (Sony makes everything, Panasonic is in many field, Olympus is strong in medical equipment, etc.). The same happens in many field, not just cameras. Look at how life science companies have to price their drugs with a huge profit so they can recover cost before the patent protection runs out and other companies can produce and sell generica of the drug for a fraction of the price with none of the research efforts. But yes... I want better tech, too. Maybe I should get frozen and be thawed on 20 years? Sometimes I feel development goes in completely wrong directions with cameras but that's maybe because I look at my needs/wants and not at the manufacturers' market research data.

I'm not saying it's a bad camera, I'm just saying besides nicer out of camera colors (which most people then "destroy" with haevy handed LUT usage) it has nothing that an A6300 doesn't have, except it's 400 to 700€ more expensive. I have to agree that you can make great stuff with any camera, since I shoot more than I read forums I actually don't even care about 8bit, I work around rolling shutter and actually never had my Sony overheat since the firmware fix a while back even in the African heat. Never had anyone comment negatively on Sony colors either, also know people shooting with Canon and their dreaded low resolution 1080p with no one ever asking about it, etc. There's of course no perfect camera. Size, weight, price, codec, bit depth, rolling shutter, sensor size, low light capabilities, lens choice, there's so many factors to pick your poison. I'm just sometimes amused by the fact that we (I include myself) bash one product for shortcomings but are totally fine to accept others, I like the X-T2 (considered getting one as I still have the 23mm 1.4 catching dust, amazing lens) but I'm kinda surprised it is seen as such a strong contender.

I just can't really understand the exceeding praise for the X-T2 for video to be honest. Yes, the Fuji colors straight out of the camera are nice. It's an amazing camera for photography (except for the X-Trans being sub-optimal with Lightroom). But the rolling shutter is basically the same as NX1/A7s/A7r and everyone hates on these cameras for having "too much" rolling shutter (shooting handheld with the NX1 IS a jello fest). It shoots the same 8bit 4:2:0 footage like the others, it can't even do log internally (and everyone hates on Canon for omitting CLog from cameras). After all this is a 1700€ APS-C camera and I feel like it's just "me too" when it comes to video. Sometimes this forum baffles me. Some manufacturers get so much more leeway than others.

I hate the screen dimming even more than the overheating. I'd rather the camera overheat 10% quicker but I can actually see what I shoot.

I'm sticking with plasma until OLED reachs more affordability. I feel not too great about spending $$$ on a latest-and-greatest 65" LCD that actually has worse image quality than my Panasonic Viera from forever ago. I also feel like HDR/10bit needs maybe 1 or 2 years more to maturity, the main reason I postponed spending on a new TV this year.

The GX8 weighs 490g, what is the kit lens for that camera? Is it the 14-42mm Mega OIS II? That has 110g. As a reference, today I balanced the A6300 (410g) with the 35 1.8 (160g) and the problem is that the lens is too light to actually use my camera cage. So I think your problem isn't solved by adding even more weight to the camera but flipping the mounting plate to have the motor on the left side so you can move it even further forward?

Use a quick release plate under the camera, use a camera cage, a lot of possibilities. I really used the Crane the first time in Venice a week ago and loved it. Surely beats my shaky handheld footage even though I still have to practice walking better. Just wish it was a hint shorter to better fit into my camera bag.

Just balanced mine and tried it out, seems to work fine but I'll test some more. Quick question: do you guys screw the camera right to it or what quick release system do you use?

On Amazon Germany it's currently discounted from 779€ to 623€ in the kit with the remote and little case. Mine arrives Saturday and I won't be home until Tuesday

Same rolling shutter = no interest. Keeping my a6300, which is kinda liberating. We'll see what the next A7 brings or maybe Blackmagic has a surprise at NAB next year.

+1 In Germany it sells used for around 2000€, if it has the AF upgrade sometimes slightly higher. The used C100 II goes for roughly 3000€, so I'd probably directly go for the II at these prices.

Agreed but it's still the priniciple of economies of scale. How many 3rd party battery grips for the Canon 5D III did they sell and how many grips for the BMMCC do they expect to sell? The more you produce, the cheaper you can be. Not to sound negative, I would love to have a grip with controls because I think the BMMCC is so much cooler than the BMPCC. There's actually a thread over at BMCuser where the user Stelvis 3D modelled the rig of my wet dreams http://bmcuser.com/showthread.php?18560-micro-camera-custom-grip-rig-breakout-uber-build

But the 1080p on the A6300 isn't exactly amazing, I wouldn't buy that camera to shoot Full HD with it. We'll see if the A6500 has better image quality in 1080p but I wouldn't get my hopes up. I tried to cut 1080p that I used for the lower RS together with downscaled 4k for a test and the quality difference was really showing, not yet convinced it's a viable solution. I didn't test them side by side but from my feeling the 120fps on the A6300 is also worse than on the NX1.

To be honest I'm not. Look at the cost of a good quality wooden grip, that's 200-500$. Then consider that people expect it to have a bunch of buttons, which would put it at the higher end of that scale. Then consider how many people have a BMMCC and how many of those would buy the grip? I think the market is too small. In general I feel kitting out the BMMCC into a great handheld system doesn't really make sense for price reasons. Many people consider this the minimum setup: BMMCC 1000€ Monitor 500€ Cage 100€ Speed Booster 850€ OLPF 350€ That already puts you at 2800€ which probably kills the attractivity of the BMMCC to rig it out as a fancy handheld camera if you don't already have the stuff lying around from a BMPCC. If you would add a fancy handgrip for 500€, you might as well have directly looked at buying an Ursa Mini when we ignore size/weight differences.

Even raw files can have some form of processing, e.g. noise reduction or downscaling (example is for example RAW, mRAW and sRAW on Canon cameras). MagicLantern also saves raw data which is not identical to the full resolution the sensor has.

I really doubt any Alpha camera getting integrated ND filters.

No you can't. When you start recording in camera it deactivates the HDMI out preview. Nothing to do about it.

The G7 doesn't do HDMI out while internally recording. Was a deal breaker for me when I considered that camera. If you need/want external monitoring, you also have to record externally.

The FS7 shoots 4k 10bit 422 in XAVC-I. That's the big difference to the FS5.

Which? The A7s II and A7r II are double the price (3450€ in Germany), the Canon 5D IV even more. It's kinda harsh how much more expensive it is in Europe though. 1700€ vs 1400$

I sometimes use it but in my opinion you can't just slap it on and be done, it needs manual adjustment and I never add the LUT above 30-50%. I see how using it straight at 100% makes people dislike it, it's in the same territory as overdoing it with Film Convert.

http://www.sony.com/electronics/interchangeable-lens-cameras/ilce-6500 camera is announced. Sounds like an A6300 with IBIS and Touch Screen. Can't wait to hear if that's all that's new or if it fixed overheating, rolling shutter, etc.

I love to use the compact 35mm 1.8 OSS and 50mm 1.8 OSS and have to agree, the Sony APS-C system still lacks a whole bunch of options. A 16mm & 23mm 1.8 OSS would be a great addition as would be a 17-50mm f/2.8 OSS zoom which EVERY other system has. If an A6500 would come with A7 body with the A6300 sensor but IBIS and massively reduced rolling shutter I would totally get that and keep the A6300 as a B cam. I guess it's too early to pray for 10bit 422?