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Viltrox EF-m2 0.71x Tokina 28-70mm f/2.6 Possibly Sigma 18-35 1.8.

Apparently Ronin-s works well with the BMPCC4K.

Would love to pair the BMPCC4K with this.

I feel like you're talking past me and not actually reading what I said. My first comment to this thread was responding to a comment by Trek of Joy that suggested the Canon 5D3 had better IQ than the NX1, not Andrew's topic. And what part of anything I said sounded like a sales pitch? On the contrary, you seem to be eager to dismiss the positive experience NX1 owners and ex-owners have had. I don't think there's a point to continue this, if we're just talking past each other.

I can't tell if you're trolling. My original comment had nothing to do with sales. You're really going off tangent. I'll just let this one sit here.

If your metric of how good a product is, is whether it's still popular or has sold well, we're having a different conversation. Unless you were just being dismissive. I still have mine, and i'm using it as a primary camera for commercial work. I can't tell if you're talking about stills or video. We've seen the charts. Forget the charts. No one said its dynamic range in stills wasn't a stop behind A7r2 or the D850 -- I said it does comparably well. My point was, I've almost never found a real world situation where that one-stop difference was apparent to me, and I was forced to choose those two cameras, available to me anytime, over the NX1 for commercial work (most in my line never go beyond ISO 200 anyways). Now, if I had a Canon, and also had access to the NX1, Sony or Nikon, it's a different story. Being able to lift the shadows from dark areas like hair is a BIG DEAL. Canon is brutally unforgivable in that area, even with a perfect strobe-lit, studio-setting situations -- you end up with noise in black hairs, even without lifting the shadows at ISO 100! Any camera that can tackle this is in a different class from Canon, and the NX1 belongs to that group, along with the Sony and Nikon. You have to be fair and give it that. Also, which full frame from that generation did you think it lagged behind? (On higher ISOs, I've found it promisingly good on the rare occasion I've shot with it, when properly exposed - granted I don't think I've shot anything above ISO 800.)

Yea, anyone with Google could tell you that. We were talking about stills, not video. And I found it rare for the Sony/Nikon to outshine the NX1 for stills in most real world situations (except resolution). But you could always tell with the Canon, because the shadows were unforgiving (not that you couldn't work around it, which most of us did for years). That's my point.

Sir, you are, to put it mildly, talking out of your ass. I'd shot Canon for years before jumping to the NX1 as my main photography camera (commercial, portraits - studio and outdoors), and it's not even fair competition to the Canon (ever tried lifting the shadows off black hair on a Canon?). The NX1 has an insane dynamic range, and I find it does comparably well next to a Nikon or Sony. And I say this as someone who still uses the NX1, and has done photo shoots side by side with a Sony A7R2 and a Nikon D850.

BMPCC4KRAW rolls off the tongue.

Man, this thread has gone on so long that at some point someone might just start doing fan art. Oh wait, too late.

It'd be a win-win, if they did. But they didn't react to the earlier Blackmagic cameras, I doubt they will with this one either.

Well, that's still ten years away. But color science and price are factors.

Exactly. This camera could be priced at $2000 and it'd STILL be a steal.

Why do everyone keep saying the GH5S and BMPCC4K sensor is the same? They are literally different sizes. Did I miss something? BMPCC4K: 18.96 mm x 10 mm GH5/S: 17.3 x 13 mm

Can anyone in the States confirm this about B&H (I'm asking someone there to get it for me)? Or should I go for HotRodCameras (first time hearing of them, and also, they misspelled President as Preasident on their About page, which is nitpicking, but yea)?

Oh, can I ask, what sorts of headaches?

Hey guys, those in America (I'm not from America), what's the best way to preorder, via B&H? They seem to require a full payment as far as I can tell.

I believe the real conversation should be whether the new Pocket 4k will measure up to the NX1.

True, and I don't think they even have that sort of policy structure towards protecting their higher end products in the traditional sense like other companies: Fusion inside Resolve, Pocket at a pricepoint that feels like they're giving it away.

I don't get the complaints either (and I have no Lions). This camera pretty much knocked the wind out of me.

Excellent, thanks! Will start the research on those lenses.

If their reaction to the original Pocket is any indicator, I highly doubt it too.

Oh, I assumed it was a different one, given its difference in size: BMPCC4K: 18.96 mm x 10 mm GH5/S: 17.3 x 13 mm

In what sense?

Jesus Christ I didn't get enough sleep. And here I just wanted a better screen. New to the micro43 sensor size here, but I'm planning on jumping in with a speedbooster and Sigma 18-35 (nikon or canon?), making it roughly a 23-45mm lens. Any suggestions for lenses that might pair beautifully with the camera for cinematic images?