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I would also like to know about the cart! Most of the times, a cart is more important than a new camera!

It is very important to know your place and understand your concept completely, in the pro world. That is number one. I recently did a documentary series with young directors (one director each 25minutes episodes), almost all of them did more than 5 hours interviews! that was too much for the project, the concept behind it, and the budget. As of the technical stuff. When I was doing such work I always shot 50p (more is just too much) and used whatever technique I considered appropriate. A few timelapses and hyperlapses were good transition tricks also. Speedramp also. Whatever..

The Lumix 24-105 is bigger than the usual EF one? I have never seen a Lumix full frame lens on the field, everyone adapts EF or have Sony cameras anyway..it would be interesting to check the new PDAF performance.

Agree with everything, just add to this my experience. For me, even the 105 is sometimes limiting, that is why I prefer the 18-135 EF-S for Canon S35 (or APSC) run and gun, and that is why usually I go with the Olympus 12-100mm 4f.. I do cover the whole spectrum of moving images (from mainstream drama, to indie documentaries) so I understand what everyone says. My last jobs were a feature film (I did sound) that we used just cine primes, a documentary with Pocket 4K cameras and the 12-100, Alexa TV ad (did sound), another one with 4K/6K cameras (did sound) and Sigma EF (18-35, 50-150), TV show with GH6 and 12-100mm, a theater/music performance (GH5+BlackMagic cameras with Olympus lenses), Canon C300mkIII + C70, a couple projects with Sony cameras, e.t.c... There is no ONE style of preferred setup. Depending the job and the project you have to adapt. It is a lot different to work on a scripted short, a verite documentary, a TV ad on Alexa, a live performance.. If you cover something, is more important to have the right moments than have just a few of them with great style..in the end, the content is more important than the form. Of course you try to have a great balance of those, but first be sure you cover the basics and then add some artistic style if you can.

We shoot a very popular show with 2 GH5 and 12-100mm Olympus 4f lenses. I remember years ago for the same project we were carrying video cameras with suitcases full of lenses! It wasn't only tiring and stressful for us, but for the presenters also and the whole production.. We also use the same for recording performances/live events. You do not have the time to change lenses. When I take pictures and I have to cover everything, I use 2 bodies with a workhorse zoom (and a flash just in case, there is no shame on that!), and a prime that fits the occasion (for more "artistic" and/or personal approach) and usually, a 3rd small body (I have always some kind of backup with me, even when I just use one body) with some oddball lens (ultra wide or even fisheye, just for a couple of "weird" ones.

I told you! The camera is great for the intended use, as the R8 is also. They both aren't hardcore pro tools for really long takes but they will have their place in many peoples hands..

What about battery life on the S5ii. Can anyone comment on that?

really..I still use 1080p on most jobs..and what is exactly the situation with the 4K/50p? what is the crop that implements?

Image is not my main job, sound and assistant director are, so I can not afford R5 price bodies. Not even R6mkII, which ideally would be my first option, but it is 3.000euros (inlcuding trade in bonus + cash back! imagine the normal price..). The Sigma was never convenient for me, there were always a better option, not quite wide for me (as I said, 24mm equiv. is my must) and never long enough for portraits or weddings/ceremonies..when my main camera was the NX1 the incredible 16-50mm 2-2.8f O.I.S NX was a much better and complete option and for almost all the Sigma range was 2f..not that big of a difference, wider and longer also.. The Canon prices in Europe are ridiculous..Panasonic is very competitive, and there is the other thing, the Panasonic 20-60 in my opinion is alright for basic pro stuff, the Canon 24-50mm is a joke..a lot less light, and a lot smaller range than the Pana one..this is significant for me, as an 20-60 can cover my basic needs, and if the Sigma adapter works, I could put some EF glass in front for longer distance..(I have the 70-200mm 4f EF which is great value and I love the size/weight ratio and others). I have already the 16/35/50mm RF and I am not sure if the Sigma adapter has similar AF performance as the EF to RF adapters..that is something I do not have a definite confirmation as of yet..

Overheating is a main concern here in Greece, we have Sahara desert (literally we have Sahara sand dozens of days in Greece lately) weather during summers (climate change and all..). Main reason I never considered Sony for workhorse cameras, NX1 were amazing at the time in heat dissipation. I do an indoors theater tmrow and I will use the R7 for the very first time for a job, but it will keep just a wide shot..I will check battery life and heat management, as it is usually north of 25degrees C in full indoor theaters.. my main camera will be the Pocket 4K though with the Olympus 12-100mm 4f. As I stated in the Panasonic S5ii thread, June, I would like to go to full frame and I am between S5II(X) and R8, for different reasons each choice. R8 will be complementary to the R7, but Panasonic S5IIX can take the part of the Pocket+R8+R7 I guess..(I certainly need 2 cameras though to have at all times, and the S5IIX doesn't have a clear candidate for a lesser and cheaper second body, but maybe I just keep also the Pocket 4K, and the S5 is the all arounder..easy). What do you guys think? Is the Sigma EF adapter worth it? Is the X a better option for video or the (much, at this point with some reductions I see) cheaper S5ii is enough? I am just bored to sell things, I could easily sell the Pocket and the Olympus lens and replace it with an R8 and a new RF lens (maybe an ultra wide of some kind), or else I could go the S5II way, and sell everything else (which is a lot of hustle and hurdle because so much stuff, and newly bought have to go..). The thing is, that both R7 and R8 are NOT hardcore video tools like the S5IIX seems to be, and the Pocket 4K is..or else I would have gone the R8 way already.. The main reasons that I am reluctant with RF is the lens situation, I am not covered at all with crop lenses (ridiculous, not even close to my NX set up) and there isn't a do it all all arounder for run and gun. At the moment I use the 18-135mm with the ND Meike adapter, which is ok, but It is like an 29mm lens at the wide end, and my favorite on zooms is 24mm. The Olympus, which I own already, is a 24-200mm, perfect..Sony has some as well and a new 20-70mm (20mm at the wide end is incredible) and you can buy right now the Panasonic S5ii with the 20-60mm kit and the great 50mm with a little bit more of what the R8 costs! sorry, but this is just incredible pricing..the 20-60 kit is ok for most projects, and with the Sigma adapter I can use my EF lenses like I do in RF, no big deal there.. Decisions decisions..

I am certainly a Batman fun! Isn't the X in pre-order status still? Does anyone knows the differences between X and simple S5ii?

I have 4 Samsung NX cameras, 1 Pocket 4K and 1 R7. Only 1 Olympus 12-100mm, a few EF and EF-S lenses, a bag of 5 Samyang EF vDSL (the old ones, I don't remember how they called) and a few RF lenses.. June, I would like to go to full frame for some reasons, I am between S5IIX and R8, for different reasons each choice. R8 will be complementary to the R7, but Panasonic S5IIX can take the part of the Pocket+R8+R7 I guess..(I certainly need 2 cameras though to have at all times, and the S5IIX doesn't have a clear candidate for a lesser and cheaper second body..). What do you guys think? Is the Sigma EF adapter worth it? Is the X a better option for video or the (much, at this point with some reductions I see) cheaper S5ii is enough? I am just bored to sell things, I could easily sell the Pocket and the Olympus lens and replace it with an R8 and a new RF lens (maybe an ultra wide of some kind), or else I could go the S5II way, and sell everything else (which is a lot of hustle and hurdle because so much stuff, and newly bought have to go..). The thing is, that both R7 and R8 are NOT hardcore video tools like the S5IIX seems to be, and the Pocket 4K is..or else I would have gone the R8 way already.. ..and the thing is that S5 doesn't have a lesser, smaller, cheaper crop alternative that I like to have at all times (and various reasons).. I am open to all suggestions, if you will. Cheers.

I know about the buying out. What new company? the aforementioned product is with the old regime!

Rycote is a very well know and innovative company from U.K, known for delivering great and cost effective solutions for decades. If I had to started from somewhere, I would definitely start from Rycote. I split one of those in 2 pieces, put them on my NX500 years and years ago, I do not even remember, maybe 4. They are still there. Experiences may vary greatly of course. I strongly recommend a dedicated microphone, instead the camera built in mics if/when possible.

...also, this for built in mics. https://rycote.com/microphone-windshield-shock-mount/micro-windjammers/

I have the Sennheseir and I believe is the best all around dSLR solution. You can have beautiful stereo ambient sound if you go ultra wide, and if you go closer you can beautifully follow a nice 2 person's conversation, and with a wider lens, is alright to go closer. It has 2 mini shotgun mics! Stereo, but with a reach..just brilliant idea.. If I want more reach (for videocentric cameras) I go here https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1404643-REG/sanken_cs_m1_super_cardioid_short.html Paired with this amazing masterpiece of "softie" https://www.gothamsound.com/product/cosi-cs-m1-windshield-kit This set is just amazingly brilliant and easily pro territory (and price). I actually use it for drama on a boom pole and I just did a trailer for a very popular game show a few hours ago.. If I don't care at all, just the simplest of them all and the cheapest of them all. no battery, no much directionality, extremely small and light https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1183909-REG/rode_videomicro_compact_on_camera.html

Yes, the size is incredible for a full frame camera. The only inconvenience is that you have different batteries and different chargers per job, I would like to avoid that, but you can't have it all in this life I guess! I am shocked of how great a battery life the R7 has, amazing! If I get the R8 I have to budget 3 batteries I guess.. Thanks for chiming in!

Tell us more! I am probably buying it too.. What about the battery life? is it pro worthy do you believe?

That is my impression also, punches above its weight.. I too finding it very convenient with the EF ND adapter and usually putting a 18-135mm EF-S there. Also the 70-200mm 4f. Thanks for confirming!

Ofcourse! I just did a small friendly comment. I am glad that you didn't gave it more gravity than it should! These new Nikon cameras (and lenses, depending the lens of course) are for me the best value for money options right now in the mirrorless world. A lot of friends now use the 24-120mm for all around video with excellent results.

Very good and nice image, but needed some more B roll obviously. Just a couple of kicks and a helmet-wearing. Also the transition between two similar headshots with a different color to the second one is kind of weird. Maybe going super close up (not spaghetti western close up! Just head and shoulders) for the smile-shot in the same shot before the end, would have been more appropriate. As of the camera, I know a lot of people using Nikon for weddings or simple corporate or other videos. Here, some mkII kits are slightly more expensive than the Canon R8 body(!) and there are continuously rebates or some kind of incredible offer.. They have great priced kits with various lenses, a lot of people choose the 24-120mm and they have it all.. Very tempting..

What do you like in R7? What lenses do you use? I bought one in the summer as well, but I have still to put it in the real world test.. Is the log footage easy to grade/edit? Any issues with overheating?

What FF are you shooting? I work for a couple of production companies that still using the GH5 cameras coupled, usually, with the Olympus 12-100mm 4f. They do speciality TV episodes (kind of run and gun stuff) and both shows are very popular. One production company considers moving to either GH6 or S5iiX, the other considers.. nothing at all! The cameras are good for the specific project, and their other projects are very big anyway, so they rent Arri or C300mkIII usually. I did a project with them recently using C70s also.. I have yet to see a GH6, which is strange, and that means that it hasn't sold a lot here in Greece. I know a lot of people that had both the GH5 and bought into BMP4K when first released, but now they have moved to BMP6K and abandon the m43 cameras altogether. I am expecting a slow but steady sales figure for people having a lot of m43 glass and they do not care much to move to other formats, or are perfectly happy with their GH5 cameras anyway and will replace their old and beaten GH5 cameras, but for those, even the cheaper GH5ii maybe will be enough (and another source of sales leaking for the poor GH6..) or a less beaten used GH5 from all these sources that moving to S5ii cameras or other mounts.. All in all, is not 2017 anymore, and there are still GH5/GH5S/GH5mkII cameras to be sold out there while everyone has workhorse hybrid cameras that can bring bread to the table these days..

Is this also an EF-S lens? I am spoiled with the incredible 16-50mm 2-2.8f NX lens, and I am searching for something similar for the R7..the lens situation keeps me still with my whole NX gear at the moment, and I do not want big and heavy for these low level jobs.. Ideally, I would take a 16-XX zoom anyday.. especially if we talk RF-S which is X1.6 relative to full frame, not X1.5 that other crop cameras are..

Welcome back dude, and stay around! Image is like my 3rd job in the industry, so I spend a lot of money for sound mainly, but recently I worked with A) GH5 3 cameras setup B) A7Siii and A7iii setup C) last night we worked with 2 C300mkIII and 2 C70s, I love the latter.. Personally, I still using my fleet of NX cameras, mainly because the lens collection is amazing. I bought this past summer the R7 and a couple of years ago the BMP4K. I am relatively set for the moment, but I am eyeing the R8 now, mainly because I have so many EF and RF lenses that makes perfect sense to just have the option.. As I said, it isn't my main job, but I want to stay relevant somehow (that is why I have the Pocket for braw, and the R7 for the run and gun..