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I don't understand why the OP considers an FS5, an A7sII, an 6300 and an RX100 a match made in heaven. I haven't great experience with Sony cameras, but most of the times we are trying to mix and match different Sony cameras it is quite challenging. Even their APS-C cameras seem to have different color science. A s35 camera, a full frame one, an APS-C one and a 1" one. A couple of different mounts and a compact. It seems to me that Canon has more reliable and similar -to different products - color science than Sony. Sony will try to evolve their color science, so most of their future cameras will be different, as they aren't there yet. C200 and C200B, I am wondering what the "B" stands for. Could it be "B" cam?

I have used a6300 and it was a disappointment (overheating, battery life, ergonomics). In most Sony reviews I read sentences like that "1080 video is surprisingly poor by current standards, even taking a step backward from the original a6000, and falling far behind what the company's own RX100 cameras are capable of." Also, "the 120p and 100p modes of Full HD video are shot using a smaller, 1.14x crop in from here and 30p 4K imposes a still tighter, 1.23x crop." Samsung offers me all the native lenses I need (except an S ultra wide zoom), while Sony doesn't. Samsung's AMOLED screens are just amazing, best ergonomics in class (in my opinion), great battery life. I have used all my NX cameras (even NX500!) in the hottest days on south-eastern Europe for many hours (or, too many at times!) and never failed me (knock wood!), all my friends aXXXX cameras have overheating issues.

@Liam He has 1500$ ADDITIONAL to the equipment he already has. So he already has the basic lenses for a C100, he can sell the rest (and the 7D) and buy a used C100mkII. I thought the point was to make money out of video, not hobby-ing. With a C100 you can record students shows, weddings, make a documentary, and most low budget things with just one box (the camera it self), a mic and a lens. I don't remember the 7D exactly, but my impression at the time was that when the GH4 was out, every little Canon seemed primitive. And I did a full feature length political documentary with the 60D back in the day. How are you going to record the sound in a production you do? He specifically states "I will be producing 6 shows during the summer where I will be producing and hosting the shows", do you know a cheap way to get sound for 6 different shows? It is much cheaper to find a young, or recently started sound man and grow together. One can invest on cameras, the other on sound, it is more doable and cheaper. There is no cheap -good - sound equipment, and not an easy task for a fashion photographer that wants to become a cameraman, to try to boom a 3 person's conversation, while rotating his ND filter in front of his 7D, and pull focus on his 70-200 on a photographic tripod that can barely hold the lens alone.

@Chris Oh Not exactly, as I advised him to sell most of his gear already, and the C100 is not manageable to any smaller tripods, not for pro work anyway, and the Sachtler is 783$, half of its aforementioned 1500$ https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1284243-REG/sachtler_1015_system_ace_l_75_2.html In anyway, the starting point is a capable camera, a work horse lens (the 18-135 is one, 70-200 is a perfect compliment), a scratch microphone (that can be really anything, Audio Technica has a bunch of them), a proper camera bag (that is, also a very important accessory!) and a worthy tripod, being able to produce some stable and worthy footage. Everything else is an extra. I don't ever remember 7D image anymore, and he talks about the version 1. Even latest Canon dSLRs (80D) are not producing great video, I am not sure what is achievable with the 7 right now. Video is not photography, you can't get away with out a good tripod, there is constant motion, camera moves, things are moving in front of the camera. Tripod: #1 necessity.

Sell the 7D and whatever lens you don't need (keep 2-4 of those, certainly the 70-200, or sell everything except the 70-200 and the 50, and buy a 18-135 to cover most angles, C100 has incredible high ISO quality, so don't worry about the 3.5-5.6f) and buy a used Canon C100mkII. Sound is a completely different thing, you should work with a sound man, just buy a cheap-o mic for on camera sound (or scratch), and/or Rode wireless lavalier (they are big, but cheap and reliable) may be more useful. Then light is a completely different thing, tons of advices for that. Sell your tripod/head as well, and buy the Sachtler Ace L, but it isn't so comfortable with the C100+70-200 combo, but is just perfect for everything else, and it is the minimum for good motion.

Eventually I would like to move to C200 or C100markIII (C200 is a bit too much for my line of work, most of our jobs are C100markII/JVC LS300 70% of the time) and got a worthy Canon M, but until they have the bodies and the right native glass (I like mirrorless glass for mirrorless cameras) I decided to keep my NX1/NX500/NX3000 and lenses combo, they offer almost everything I need right now, and I have a full set that I can do from pro photography (28mgpxls sensor) to continuous video (73minutes per take) and the NX3000 with the native NX fisheye is my specialized camera. It isn't exactly true that companies offer similar options from photography up to pro video form factors. Nikon/Olympus doesn't have video cameras. We haven't seen anything from the EVA yet, we are not sure if it is a Varicam LT B cam, or a GH5 A cam and certainly GH5 is a m43 camera, while the EVA a S35 EF one. A lot of differences here. I am not following latest Sony developments recently, but A7S cameras are full frame and it is kind of difficult to mix and match with a6300. I do not know the rest, I hear a lot of people having one of the 1" ones. How is it possible to match a full frame camera with a 1" one? Canon seems more complete, except their middling to cheaper dSLR/Mirrorless are well behind in the video department. I just wish C200 is the indication that Canon is waking up. Mirrorless is the future, can't protect cheap dSLRs anymore, and I doubt that 399$ dSLR are cheaper to make than 799$ M6 without an EVF!

Great deal. But be honest, you would be interested if the price was 2999$?! This summer in North America you can buy a I7-7700 with 1070GTX 8GB, 16GB RAM, 256 SSD + 1TB HDD, 15.6 or 17" for about 1699$. For us not being able to find such a great deal (and that is the case for almost the whole world), a PC will be always be a much more attractive option. Especially the ones considering Windows 10 a better operating system than all the previous Windows implementations.

you mean 4K/60f/8 bit?

All these you are describing are a bit far fetched. First, the camera is not out yet, and you haven't bought it, so there is NO change you will ever loose a job from a camera you can't buy yet. Second, before you go shooting you, the producer, the director, the sound and probably more people of the production (costumes, location manager etc) discuss things and choose their equipment accordingly. There is a certain understanding between professionals, and I am sad to say, maybe you are a professional, but your director WASN'T. If you were shooting film you would be able to shoot for 2 hours straight? and what codec and camera allows you shooting RAW quality for hours? How much this setup costs? I understand that this camera isn't for you, but all the circumstances you described are a bit too much for real life situations. P.S the XLRs are on body, not at the handle...

Keeps mentioning 5000$, but it is more than 10.000EUROS in Europe at the moment. They will sell much less in EU with those prices. Outstanding image for light RAW, slow motion is VERY soft, that was a bit unexpected (to that degree). Hey, they turned @Mattias Burling metaphor to a reality, their C200 exploded!!

I agree with the last few opinions. When the middle codec is out, this camera will be the best seller of its tier. Now that most players have played their hands, only Sony with FS5 is the one left. They will probably built an amazing spec sheet, but in the end this Canon has it all, and it will be difficult to be beaten. Together with the CN-Es you can shoot almost everything, up to its tier (then you have to move to better cameras/lenses), and having Dual Pixel AF with those lenses, would be a huge selling point, that no one can reach any time soon (again, Sony, but they have to build 2 great and cheap cine lenses, which haven't so far). I really wish I needed this camera, but probably a C100mkIII with the CN-E 18-80 would be much better for me and my needs. But then, I am sure it will be lacking a good middle codec, so not to hurt C200 sales. C300mkII in Christmas time will be old news. That was fast!

I did everything when I started in 1999, but my first education in the field, and my first job (in 99) was sound. In the first years a was working as a lightning technician assistant (was the original title), actually we won an award for lighting on the most important short film festival here, and in general I was trying to take a taste of everything. I was camera assistant in a feature, and a few other short films, and then I moved to TV (mean while I had finished my first part of my education 2 diplomas in Sound Engineering and Multimedia computing and programming) where I was working as a sound man, and I started doing editing in my spare time (which wasn't that much anyway!). Then I went to film school for a BA, and started using cameras more and more, and then I put a little of that in my arsenal as well, which finally got handy, when because of the continuous financial crisis here, soundmen were almost eradicated by production companies, so I was able to do camera for some low budget productions, and a few other humble jobs to pay the bills (in a country with 25% unemployment and almost 50% in young ages). In between, and because of some unrelated issues, I just "forgot" to do my personal projects. Working on a apolitical, political documentary about Greek democracy (the last many years! it is my personal Gillian's Quixote), and I am preparing a short that I should have done a decade ago! In the end, the thing that you are doing first, and best, is the one most likely to stick with you, and it is sound for me. You have to be realistic with your self and find your talents, and be humble, learn from the most experienced and try to do your best, quietly and efficient. Do not waste time day/night dreaming about being John Williams, except if you really have a talent, but you should know until now. John Carpenter was writing his own themes! In the end, I feel very good doing all these things in different roles, and that allows me to be better in my field (as I know a lot of things about other people responsibilities), help some times and some people -not all-, appreciate that, and I can have an opinion about mostly everything in our field !!

Everywhere I was reading (like the quote above) were mentioning 8 bit! that is a great find Mercer. As I said in one post the first day of the announcement, just after Christmas, Canon will announce this 10 bit middling codec, and it will make some C200 owners very happy! The sad thing is the C300mkII owners, but that is the case with evolution, and I am glad that Canon takes part to it. At least they will sleep like babies for at least 8-10 more months! On an unrelated event, FS5 just got an 1000$ rebate...

To add to the @DBounce post, the upgrade will be free. "8bit 4:2:2 XF-AVC 4K internal codec coming Q1 2018 as free firmware"

I am more of the "old school" type, so shooting everything in manual, but I did a performance a few days ago, and when I was in the other side of the venue for some handheld shots, I decided I wanted to do a wide shot, but my monopod/tripod were a few minutes away, so I tried a few shots with DIS+16-50S IS and I had 100% success. It is the second time this year that I am using it with very good results. Of course it is not a very reliable way for continuous shooting, but for smaller things it can be valuable, I guess, that was the 4th or 5th time I ever used it! Also NX AF seems more reliable in video than a6300, this is from gimbal experience this year also (I wasn't using AF before at all).

Oh my! sell everything then and get the GH5 with the 12-60 2.8-4f!! These 2 lenses you have, they are my least favorite of the NX system, really unusable for night shooting. I own the PZ and it is very convenient for day time, small and sufficient, but the low quality of the lens shows with higher ISO. If you add the terrible NR of the camera on video, then this is a recipe for disaster!!

Sony is always full of surprises! as it is, C200 is overkill for my line of work. A lot of thousands (in Europe, Marcotec price = 10.620euros+5710euros for the 18-80 CN-E) more than I was expected, and raw is not necessary at all. A cheaper FS5markII with a more modern sensor than the current one, and a bit better codecs, with their spectacular e-ND, together with the 2 Fuji lenses (around 4200euros each, for 18-135mm) would be just perfect.

Oh, ok, I read this. I was expecting you knew something about the FS5markII. This Cinealta will cost 8xEVA+4xC200

@timmyturntable my favorites web babies! They are growing so fast! Congrats!

What Sony big announcement?

Even if they don't refund you, you certainly can get 1050euros from the 2 lenses selling on ebay! Good luck, and let us know what they said! Goodnight.

Let us know please. You do not have much, if you want to change system you can easily. Sell the lenses as well, collect your 2400euros (in total) and buy whatever you want. If you care for video, I would suggest a used C100mkII, for hybrid GH5 is great, for photos, maybe X-T2, and some video of course.

Oh my! if it ain't one of the greatest selling points since sound put on celluloid, then this camera ain't selling s*#t!! Seriously, why a "pro" wouldn't want something like this in his workflow, it's beyond me.. I am 98%, the people that do not care about Dual Pixel AF, have never worked with it, at times it is really liberating (it is just a tool, for the right moment it can be valuable though). I am putting another 25euros on the Rage Against The Machine album.. but don't tell anyone!

When for years iPhones were stuck around 3-4" and 16GB of internal memory, I had a 5.5" with 32GB plus a micro SD slot with another 32GB, when iPads have no connections whatsoever, when I natively edit my H265 footage in my 2012(or 11!) PC for quite some time, then why to choose something lesser? The practical limitations of the system exceeds even my humblest everyday amateurish use, I just wonder how a power user could cope with so many of those, in so many different devices. If you want to go to more advanced biological/psychoanalytical stuff, please be my guest. It is a well know observation (since the first proto humans squeezed in small and dark caves) that we feel safer in our micro-cosmos, while the big adventures/discoveries/evolution happened when we went out there in the open, wild, vast, dangerous but full of possibilities and evolution big world. Huge discussion, and eventually we have to move to socio-political systems to compare Apple eco system with Windows, or even Android, and that is quite a big chapter. "Evangelizing" is more appropriate for Mac users, as you know there have been many articles (and even books I think) explaining how Apple works more as a cult, than a tech company. Read some of those. When they moved more to a hipsters thing, I moved on accordingly. Hipsters are a bad thing; all style, no politico-social consciousness, generations of clueless un-citizens. I make my own decisions and I believe I am very analytical and forward thinking to 9 times out of 10 to make the best choice for my resources, thank you very much!

@Trek of Joy Having a closed system has its advantages for sure, smaller things makes us feel safe/secure. I was using Final Cut for many years, but then it didn't offered me everything I needed. Since I moved to other applications, and PCs made a huge leap forward the last decade, I moved on. In all seriousness, I much prefer open systems/platforms/networks for all the possibilities and freedom they offer to me, while billions of people using them. Plus, that Premium you have to pay for dated software and hardware it is really a joke. Also, I am a Samsung NX user !! P.S In PCs we don't update drivers anymore, I believe your last experience was Windows95 or something.