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The 2 things I do for timecode is: Clap one's hands, or use a proper clapper. Plural eyes. Something I would like to explore (there is a XLR version) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00N2GJCB2/ref=s9u_simh_gw_i1?ie=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pd_rd_i=B00N2GJCB2&pd_rd_r=1SEJ7JT0D8PAD9XD9RF0&pd_rd_w=LY4Tj&pd_rd_wg=AO7h4&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=FDSXRY8T0ZERG0ZTCTPT&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=781f4767-b4d4-466b-8c26-2639359664eb&pf_rd_i=desktop or, if sound is the issue, you can buy a recorder with an HDMI connection (I am not sure if they work with NX1 though, never used one)
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This camera has nothing to do with 10bit video. It is not possible in any way. I was considering an external recorder option, just because the H265 wasn't supported by anyone, back then, but then Adobe adapted the codec, and now almost everyone has H265 native support, so I didn't bother. People have said before that they can not spot a real increase in quality, I would guess that upping the internal codec bitrate, from 80Mbps to 120Mbps is the best bet for some incremental increase. You can go 160Mbps stable, from up there things complicate, I have only experience with 120Mbps, but for the use I have, the normal Pro quality is enough - recording long 73minute continuous takes, not wasting too much card and hard drive space.
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Specula!! That's what we live for! 2nd of June, I can't wait! It will be really significant. Imagine - after they released 2 cheap cine lenses - if Fuji is preparing a no- nonsense Spartan Cinema camera, without a lot of bell and whistles, but with real raw power, and then Canon and Sony should have a new one in this category, and then Ursa has to drop the price down a couple of thousands to stay competitive! Anyway, I see myself buying into Panasonic or Canon. If GH5 has a variable sensor I would be all over Panasonic right now.
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@mercer Ok, I agree Fuji is great, I am very excited about them taking video seriously and I am looking forward for their next moves. Their APS-C cameras are serious ones and they seem to listen to their customers and I always enjoy their top execs interviews; very honest and good natured. I just expressed my opinion that isn't "hands down", I was expecting much better results from Fuji. It is great, but NX holds its own. NX1 is a more complete camera than NX500 in every way. Also in my monitor I didn't see the "huge" difference I was expecting. Let's say, I think I saw a bigger difference with my friends a6300 in high ISO. These days, is very difficult to NOT be happy with most cameras in photo and video (except maybe the lack of 4K from Canon, or some specific feature like 120frames slow motion, something that X-T2 have not, if I remember correctly, or something else). In my opinion (based in technical facts) the NX sensor is more unique than that of Fuji (which is manufactured by Sony and sold to others as well). It is made in house by Samsung, the first BSI ever made (September 2014, while Sony announced their a7Rii in June 2015), it still has the highest megapixel count ever for a APS-C camera (while Fuji had 16MP back then, Samsung had 28) with incredible fast readout (with 6.5K readout) etc Worth mentioning that its rolling shutter is 7.9ms in 1080p, and the most impressive thing, that not a lot know, is the excellent heat and power management that are capable of. I have failed to overheat these cameras, even the small NX500 in unbelievable conditions and continuous hours of video recording. These are the reasons I found it more original. I shoot raw, and I use Lightroom for the rest, but I have some collections that have - in total - more than 2000 presets from the classic film stocks to whatever one can imagine (I never use them now, just saying), and something similar for video (again, I am not using them). That is what I said. It is not like choosing your film stock anymore, you can choose, manipulate, do whatever. Samsung's color profiles are really interesting too, unexpectedly, even. I use the NXs as hybrids (I mean, I equally care for photo and video), and dedicated video cameras for more advanced projects, NXs are for very very low budgeted video jobs and they have served me well for the last couple of years (knock wood). That's all. When I will be more happy with another hybrid camera, I will let you all know (be sure about that!).
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@mercer I didn't offend anyone and I didn't tell you to "shut up", like you do. sorry for the language mistake, I am sure your Greeks are worst than my English. It is kind of childish that I have to prove that I have a bigger show reel than yours (which I do, by the way). Take a chill pill first, and if you have any facts to add to the conversation please do, I replied with 5 facts, and you with a personal attack and bullying. Also, no one needs to know you dislike certain people, you can PM for that. It is a cameras shoot out with the NX1 which I am using for a lot of years now, I have the right to express my experiences.
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@mercer What do you mean hands down? not my hands! There are so many tweaks, profiles, settings on the NX cameras that I doubt you can not achieve whatever pleases you. Also there are scorns of plug ins and LUTs that simulate every single color or film profile ever made (almost). The sensor of Fuji is the same 24MP sensor used by most 24MP cameras around, while the NX sensor is used only by 2 NX cameras and no one else, I would call that more original. I consider myself a full grown up. @Inazuma Sorry, I fail to see the huge difference you are referring to, I have a 27" color corrected 1440 monitor. In the 4 cameras comparison I fail to see such a huge difference either (I was actually surprised at 3200ISO). Are you shooting 800ISO 2f and 1600ISO 2.8f?
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The X-T20 is really that cheap (compared with the X-T2)! and has a touch screen as well.. It ain't true that aren't great NX bargains, they just becoming less and less. End of 2015, when it was obvious that Samsung was abandoning the market, a lot of people sold their kits for dead cheap. In that period and early 2016 (until last summer more or less) most shops were getting rid of stock and you could find NX1 new for 650euros in Switzerland (I was considering fly there to pickup a couple of NX1s and S lenses!) and other crazy offers in Australia, Canada (I bought a 12-24mm, but with the shipping costs to Europe and all, it was more expensive that I hoped!), UK (John Lewis, or whatever its called, had until recently some boxes with the NX1+S lens kit, some lucky people got the deal of the century), Turkey (a lot of Turkish people became rich, buying locally and selling world wide, for some period the best lenses bargains on ebay were from Turkey) and Scandinavia. After the releases of new cameras in 2016 (and just before the GH5 announcement), it was pretty obvious that NX system will be relevant for at least a few more years, as it was offering the biggest megapixel count in APS-C land (28MP), the only BSI crop sensor (the other one, but full frame is the A7Rii), futureproof H265 that just recently can be fully utilized (almost every hardware piece, from mobile phone SoC to PC components and software are H265 compatible), a very modern AF system on sensor (with some tricks also, detecting movement, baseball throw, photo finish trigger, jump activation), 15fps, excellent OLED screen and viewfinder, best in industry (back then) wireless/connectivity features, UI and touch screen implementation (Fuji and Sony still strangling in that matter), very good 120fps slow motion, plus all the other advantages (ergonomics, battery life, no overheating etc etc) and plus the great mod/hack scene that increased the already many feats and video capabilities. With the NX500 (same sensor, crop in 4K though) and some other older NX I have, I have a complete kit for most uses (from family photos to paid jobs). For me, the only disadvantages are 1) aggressive NR in high ISO settings (but with the 2-2.8f 16-50S I can be in the same lever as other similar systems have 2.8-4f or 4f lenses) 2) not able to zoom in to check focus while recording video (a cheap monitor can do the job, still I would prefer it in build). I have no experience with the X-T2, NX1 simply totally annihilates older Fuji cameras, but I was expecting X-T2 to really crush NX1, that is not the case, and in most instances I prefer NX1 more than the Fuji, plus some other things that Samsung is better anyway.
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These are from the cheap series, the 16-50pz is very small - good for video because of the zoom in/out buttons, OIS, sample variation applies greatly but usually is much better than Sony offerings. Good and small all arounder, good (very light) for gimbal work. I use it with NX1 on Ronin. Approximately 150euros used, preferably 120. 12-24, very sharp, very light, the only ultra wide zoom option any way. I like it a lot. The build quality is questionable. Back then it was one of the best of its kind. The 10-24 4f Fuji is the better such lens right now (double the price). Canon M 11-22 is equally good and cheap. Approximately 350euros used, preferably 280. 50-200 is a great lens for its class. All the copies I have used were surprisingly good, I have even used' em for night performances video covering indoors. Longer NX lens anyway. Not that good at the longer end. Approximately 250euros used, preferably 200. The cost estimations are the maximum prices I would pay for each. All these are quite good and I own them, but the NX system shines with the better ones, and especially the S lenses (16-50 and 50-150). The 30mm 2f (very slow AF though), 45mm 1.8f (fast focusing!), 60mm 2.8f macro (good for portraits as well), excellent 85mm 1.4f (dreamy like!) and my favorite fish eye 10mm 3.5f. Also the cheap ones are a bit slow (aperture wise), it could be problematic for high ISO video (and this is the greatest NX disadvantage!). How much for the whole kit?
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@MountneerMan I am not going to discuss about different cameras, you know - I know, it is a really long conversation (NX is APS-C 28megapixels BSI sensor, while GH5 is 20mgpxls m43, I do not see them being equal at all. The things I mentioned in Sony are absolutely true and tested, and I can add more if you'd like!), and I mentioned in all my posts here that NX is a dead camera, I thought we are all (or, mostly!) adults here and know what a "dead system" means. I already went that far as to propose a D7200 and X-T20, and said good things about GH5, but if people were always following the easiest and most common option then humanity would be still eating rotten animals from the ground and collecting fruits from the trees. In 2-3 months there will be the new Sony camera, and 2-3 months after that the new Panasonic, and 2-3 months after that the new Nikon mirrorless we all were hoping, and 2-3 months after that the new - at last - Canon mirrorless M Pro etc etc In a year there will be at least 3-5 cameras equally intriguing - or more, than the GH5 and the 8 hour tutorials will be dead space. And most camera stores in the world, go bankrupt anyway. In my country Samsung abandoned the camera business before most places, NX300/NX3000 were the last releases, and now look at me, have 3 NX cameras, numerous lenses, they even bring some money to help me build the next system, wherever I see a true APS-C hybrid really as innovative and forward thinking as NX1 was. Do not forget, people changed 2 or even 3 systems since abandoning NX out of fear. Ours are still working, and still servicing (for how much, I do not know, there are still cameras in warranty though, and new ones). As of batteries, I have never used more than 2 batteries (I have 3), and I am talking about a full day of video, or thousands of pictures. Plus you can connect a USB charger anytime you want. I got your point, just saying though! People are still interested in NX1: 1) it is still relevant technologically and pragmatically 2) there are bargains that you can get NX1 for very cheap (as low as 650euros with the 30mm pancake in Sweden and 1200$ with the 16-50S in the States, and brand new in Australia, Switzerland, Netherlands, Germany, UK, US for much less than 900$/pounds/euros, sometimes including the S lens in some specific sales, unfortunately I wasn't able to catch such a bargain). For someone that do not want to change camera in a few years time, and find a good deal, he can spend as much as some expensive large sensored compacts cost (those are already obsolete as well, aren't they?) and have one of the best crop HYBRIDS ever made (50% photo/ 50% video). Have you used one? What system do you own right now? P.S NX is a dead system, you really can't go anywhere else from here, but remember back then Fuji had the X-T1 16megapxls, and debatable if and how better is the new X-T2 from the NX1. Just saved almost 3000euros because I DIDN'T buy the Fuji back then!
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Last post! The problem ain't the Mavic, Mavic so small and capable is just amazing, the "problem" (not for DJI!) is product placement and net profit. If Mavic had the Phantom 4 Pro camera, it would be 98% of their sales. Now they have the Mavic Pro, the Phantom Advance, the Phantom Pro and the series of their Inspire's and more advanced cameras. Mavic here is in back order since Xmas(around there, maybe before?), there was a bunch sold before then and no more Mavic's. Also, who is competing with DJI? They are very kind to give as Mavic and a 1" camera to their Phantom series (again, with the same camera, no one would buy Phantom!). @Parker For weddings Mavic is just great, one of my business partners has ordered one since November (for that reason), and I consider buying the Phantom 4 Pro because it is possible to buy one in this country (!) and is more appropriate for my line of work (corporation, low budget short films, documentary series etc).
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@MountneerMan GH5 is a lot worst in the photo department, and a6500 is worst in most (ergonomics, battery life, terrible user interface, gimmick touch screen features, and a ton other) issues. The GH5 costs a lot more anyway. The usual deal now with the NX1s - that most people buy - are a NX1 with a 16-50S and a few more extras (external chargers, extra batteries, or whatever) that goes for around 1500$ or less. If you can find one for less than that, and/or in very good condition, then it is further away that any other top camera right now. It is a dead system, it can be problematic, for some it is a great chance to own a very futuristic great camera for a little money. I wouldn't propose this camera light hearted to anyone, on the other hand it is just a great experience and for specific purposes, needs, and people, it can be a great bargain! Personally, I will be waiting for the next generation, as the current ones not ticking all the boxes for my impression of a great hybrid APS-C camera. GH5 is a great, no-nonsense, camera and Panasonic right now is the most tempting, but I am an APS-C (S35) fun, and I am not changing any time soon.
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@Ronnie Amighetti Why do you have 4 pairs of the same headphones? How many headphones do you own?! I smirk every time I hear "it was very popular a ton of year ago", let's see a quote from a review: "Sony isn't telling, but my numbers confirm that Sony actually sells at least tens of thousands of these MDR-7506 every month!". Sound ain't video, 0,001% of the population uses cameras from the 70's, but a great amount of professionals use sound designs (Sennheiser MKH416, Sony MDR-7506 and a lot more) from the 70's. I also here a lot of those about the 416, but when I go out it is my first choice in any weather and condition. Those two tools are responsible for maybe the most of the media you have ever heard in your life, they must be worth your pity at least.. Steinberg is great, I was also consider it, but I read a lot of reviews with drop sound and drivers issues back then, maybe now it is better. Audio Technica ATH-M50 are industry standard too and probably better for indoors use. Sony is 2/3 of the price usually, but there are at least other 20 very interesting models (I used to love Koss and Beyern Dynamics back in the day).
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@Shirozina "Are you able to use the footage for client work? If so do you have any footage that I could see please?" my impression is that you can't use the footage for client work. I wouldn't.
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@Shirozina I know, but 1" sensor is a huge upgrade from a 1/2.3" one and I found it acceptable for low budget jobs, with smaller sensors, even for "low budget" corporate videos you may have issues. In the last corporate video we did the client didn't like the drone footage, done by our usual drone pilot but used the Phantom 4 because we didn't have the budget for a better one (he charges a lot less). The rest of the footage was Canon C100markII. Having a 1" sensor on such a low price drone, that is a revolution in image quality, similar to the Mavic's revolution in size and weight, if they mix the 2 revolutions together, then we have evolution (homo dronalis/Neadrontal/Dronopithicus or something!)! "Serious results": the absolutely minimum for paid work.
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Unfortunately such a small sensor is not enough for serious results. I detest all these drone and action cams. I am looking to Phantom 4 Pro for that reason, but I am guessing that we are going to have a Mavic with the Phantom 4 Pro camera soon (with soon I mean when I am going to buy my Phantom 4 Pro, a month after that!). I do not have the money or skills to find a different drone solution, but instead of GoPro's (where is possible) I use a small mirrorless camera with a real APS-C 3.5f fish eye lens. Much better results. Neat Video is a great, and cheap, app that we all should have in our arsenal, it really works, and it is really easy (and cheap!).
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Wow! had some great time in the wider Manchester area a decade and a half ago! studying in Midlands, partying in Machester (was doing videos for some teams up there, and otherwise!). Watched in 1440p. Seriously, I am impressed with the NX1 performance, I was expecting a much better image from X-T2. From the Sony's NX1 is in most modes miles ahead though. In the high ISO test you did I was impressed of how good NX1 performed in 3200ISO (I am not using them) and it proves that with a limited ok lighting source the results are much better. The one thing that I want to point out (and is a great advantage in my book) is how great the 16-50S lens is. Not something to underestimate, as a NX1+ S combo can achieve great things (do not forget that similar lenses are 2.8-4f or 4f, so a small handicap in ISO is excused for the greatest megapixel count in crop world). Also NXs ISO metering is the most accurate with Sony second. Fuji's 6400ISO is consider to be close to 3750ISO +_ 100ISO, while NX is close to 5400(something like this, I do not have the time to double check it right now, the Fuji number is accurate though, just can't remember the NX exactly). I am not sure that means, just mentioning it!
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What Shirozina said, buy an ok pair of cans to begin with, I have the aforementioned Sony, the Sennheiser HD25 and a few cheaper ones as backup/director's headphones. Any of the first two would be great. The second thing to consider is educate yourself, go to a course uni/diploma degree or SAE type of school. From your question is pretty obvious you do not know enough for sound, or other wise a simple google search would be enough. In anyway you need a usb interface, the small Scarlet's sell a ton each year and honestly, do not see the need for a more expensive one 8 times out of 10. Then you need active speakers and with 300-400$ you can get a pair. Real professionals that do mix sound for films have equipment worth north of 50.000$, that can exceed (and usually do) 6 digit numbers. Just saying. To start with, equipment wise: headphones, usb interface, active speakers, and then you need software..
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@Henry Silvestriz Perfect then! I believe NX1 is a true (probably the first) hybrid. 28 megapixels APS-C BSI sensor, fast operation, unbelievable ergonomics, great H265 video that won't fill your cards and/or hard drives immediately. Couple it with a few great lenses and you are set. Only thing that considers me is that the 50-150mm is still expensive, and not readily available, and it would be probably great for such a trip. The 16-50 and the rest of the lenses are normal to low cost solutions. You, again, have to be aware that these are going to be your "last" NX buys, if you spend too much, then you are probably not going to gain that much back, but the camera is good to go for a few more years near the top. Look at it as a lease plan! Other solutions are the Nikon D7200 (not that good on video), and the new X-T20 maybe.
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The 16-50S is one of the main reasons staying with the mount. I can't think of any better overall lens for an APS-C sensor. Image Stabilization, good focus dampening (or whatever it's called), fast AF (fastest on the system at least), 2f for its wider focal lengths (almost prime territory really), dust/splash proof, good build quality, iFN function (I just put the ISO there) and relatively light (for such a lens) that goes from 24-75mm. Those few extra mm in the wide end is a huge thing for me. If you only have to own one NX lens, let be it. I have a moderate collection of legacy lenses but I have replaced most with NX lenses.
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@mercer I am with you! Give me raw for 200euros! why not?! I am not against the workflow (even though it doesn't fit my profile at all), high end features are always welcomed, in whatever price range, my point is that in this entry level category, not a lot of people care about raw, most just need dependable, reliable machines to work well day in - day out, and even cheap media and less backup space play their role in this category (NX's H265 rule! as I keep 2 backup and 1 working project). That's is why the most used camera in my country is still C100 (even the older versions), and FS5 sell as well, mostly because of the e-ND function. Ursa mini Pro with the EVF, SSDs and battery options are almost 10.000 FS5 needed a 600$ update for that (I am not sure what's the policy now) and you needed a top of the range external video recorder, while the 4300euros Canon C100markII does 35Mbps 1080p. I am not trying to bring you down, I just like to be realistic with my expectations and the market we are in. If you don't understand why someone would choose a Canon C100mark II, a FS5, or the new Panasonic instead of the GH5 (even in this market) then these cameras are not for you, GH5 or an older Black Magic are just fine for your workflow I guess. To be honest, I would prefer a price closer to 5000euros, and let Canon/Sony to worry about their pricing, with or without raw.
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@mercer Most amateurs do not own 12-17000$ budget equipment (6500$ camera + everything necessary for raw, +basic monitoring, + basic lightning, sound equipment, a few good lenses, capable editing suites), and you shouldn't either (except being financially well put), so I guess in this price range there isn't really a target group for companies. You can't shot raw on cards, usually need more equipment to make that happen (e.g external video recorders) even in cameras cost north of 10.000$. A short film can be easily achieved in 4-5 days of relaxed shooting, and everything rented can be just a small portion of that kind of equipment, and even you can hire a - low to medium - experienced sound man to do the sound with his equipment, and you should, there is no clear shortcut for good sound in small productions.
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@Henry Silvestriz Depends, if you can find a great combo with the 16-50S, then I say it will be great for the next few years, and cheaper than the new future cameras (as you see the flagship models are reaching 2000$ territory body only). If you like to have the best and the latest, then wait for the next Fuji or Sony (the next ones, not the current ones), or buy the GH5. Definitely NX1 is a peek to the future, unbelievable ergonomics, battery life, H265 codec, some excellent and cheap lenses (fish eye, 30mm + 45mm). If you add more info about your intended use, we may be more helpful @Santiago de la Rosa If you have NX500 and you know what it is, then you would find NX1 just amazing. Completely different cameras though, the one is a pro hybrid, the other ain't!
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Seriously, I can not understand what are the points of these examples. We discuss auto focus as a new reality to video workflows, seriously considered since the Canon Dual Pixel AF implementation on the Canon C100 and C300markII, to go the distance and say that "That "high-end" pros almost never use autofocus is not condescending.." is just plain silly. Those cameras aren't even close to "high-end pros" (whatever that means, it sounds expensive, much more expensive than a C300). Maybe "high-end pros" (whatever that means) will shoot like that https://www.lytro.com/cinema in the near future.
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..or maybe this one http://www.eoshd.com/2014/03/canon-4k-refresh-c200-c400-coming-nab/ !!! a 3 years full circle!
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Not recently, no. For my next purchase (next year) I would like to look at Cartoni too. Here the local shops are pushing Miller, Sachtler and Manfrotto, and as it is a very small market, whatever the big 3 shops push, fill the whole market. When I was starting my career there were a lot of Cartoni around (now they are too heavy, and I haven't seen any newer replacements of those). I am not very excited with Miller. Sachtler FSB would be a safe bet, instead of Manfrotto I rather go Benro, so Cartoni would be nice to check. I would be looking something at Sachtler FSB8 price (and features) range, if you have any propositions would be great!