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For such a low budget I can only think of the S6 Benro, and only on ebay (there are some new from time to time with very competitive prices). Unfortunately (or not), tripod systems are something that you have to pay, and pay a lot. I did a little research on the market, and I can't find a good one with less than 1000euros. Only Sachtler Ace L, but even the C100markII and 70-200 EF lens are already too much, and when I look for something better, they exceed 2000euros, easily. Such a Benro is a good backup/reserve/B cam tripod to have, and if you grow substantially, you can get something much more expensive later. Note: I wouldn't advice anything less from Benro (S2, S4). S6 is the minimum and S7/S8 are even better, but much more expensive (and less bargains on ebay).

After the GH5 and Ursa Mini Pro releases, NAB will be really interesting this year! I just hope one of the cameras announced there will be my next one.

So, there is a problem with firmware 1.41 that is very useful to know. Thanks for bringing attention to this issue, maybe Samsung have to do something about it. Does anyone have an email to complain about it?! as we are a few Android versions behind now...

https://www.wired.com/2017/03/crazy-new-camera-tech-made-planet-earth-2-possible/ The first Planet Earth was more impressive at the time, both technically and artistically (in my opinion). Of, course #2 is a must see also. There are "Planet Earth 2 playlists", pretty cool music from Radio 1 with -mostly- aerial shots from the production. They have a new one out, with Robot animals with eye-cameras! https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/dec/31/bbc-robot-creatures-spy-secret-lives-animals-wildlife-series (there are some pictures of the robots on the internet, spooky!) and the Blue Planet II is coming this year!

@Rinad Amir obviously I was joking about the 72 frames

It is definitely there, sorry but I am not familiar with the issue. I hope you will find out something. Another thing is that you can press "STOP REC" and start again when you have moved to your next shot, as the situation is very bad for filming anyway, there is no way to have a manual useful scene with such huge dynamic differences.

Do you have a video to see the phenomenon? Won't AWB change as well in these circumstances?

I am sure Jason Lanier has made a shitpot full of money JUST using Sony cameras!

Seriously, I do not understand where this aggression is coming from, maybe you have some complexes with Greece, or Stalinists (you know nothing about Greek politics, this government passed extreme neo-liberal laws that the socialists/conservatives/multi party governments couldn't before). 1) I was asked about the Greek weddings, and replied, the story was ending there, until you came to save the integrity of the forum (or Sony, didn't understand) 2) didn't attack anyone, and I asked from Paul to excuse me, if the first sentence I ever wrote was offensive to him 3) just suggested my experiences of the a6500 being not appropriate for A camera as a wedding day, and the person we exchanged posts agreed that his friends using this cam as B/C or gimbal cam, and that is exactly what I said 4) my issues with this camera (and the a6300), are stated by the op on the CON segment of his original post, and I just add some facts. 5) in my UK University we were using our sources to our academic writings and Wikipedia wasn't the most preferable source, so I am trying to avoid it, while the only thing you do is some exercises in your creative writing course and try to use impressive words to cover the lack of facts and knowledge. I don't know you, do not remember any of your posts, do not care, you are not going to play any role in my life. Community: Sorry for the last couple of posts, the mod can delete them, if delete this person's attack too.

@josdr nice words, doesn't change my reality though. I do not expect someone with no clue about the world, have anything interesting to say about cameras, while I expressed vastly my experiences to the community you chose to just personally attack someone you don't know. Learn some facts before you open your gutter. Unemployment rate in Greece is 23.10% 15th worst in the world (Lesotho, Palestine, Angola are just under Greece, to get the point) and second in youth unemployment just under South Africa with 45.20% http://www.tradingeconomics.com/greece/unemployment-rate A lot of hundred of thousands of young scientists have migrate abroad (most of my friends are all over the world, the numbers vary from 300.000-500.000, which is a huge number for such a small country), that is called "Brain Drain", read about the situation, if you care at all http://www.ijbhtnet.com/journals/Vol_4_No_2_March_2014/14.pdf Black money in Greece is equal to 9-10% of the GDP of the country, and because of the high taxation is growing every month, more companies prefer to go bankrupt (244712 business and 824670 work places lost during 2008-2015 on a 10-11 million country) and work illegally than pay Scandinavian taxes with no real benefits (the health system is going bankrupt, hospitals have no basic medicine and Greek doctors migrate for work, 4000 doctors ONLY in Germany), while some Greeks have 800billions on un taxed money is Switzerland, I assure you, I have none, of those. http://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2016/04/25/greeces-private-sector-244712-businesses-closed-and-842670-work-places-lost-during-2008-2015/ http://greece.greekreporter.com/2015/03/15/die-welt-the-greek-govt-ignored-800-bln-in-black-money-transferred-to-swiss-banks/ in general, the situation is called by some politicians and scientists as "financial genocide". Just do your research. edit (just to be barely on topic): and yeah, I used the cameras and I didn't like them, why to say otherwise? I am not getting paid by Sony, and if I would, I would still speak my mind.

Every job is different, movies are the top (again, not a market here, mostly doing shorts), but it definitely is busy, and very stressful! I am sure in other countries will be even worse, rich weddings in India probably??!! In general it is not my forte, for various reasons. Hmm...We want to go there (we are doing 2-4 persons per good wedding, so the money have to be split in a lot of different directions), eventually, I will do more this summer, already booked a few and a famous athlete, but the market is very small, and everyone that can afford "a" camera (literally, a -whatever- device that can record video!) is doing weddings right now in Greece, also, because no one is giving receipts, I have huge difficulties competing with these people, also, hordes of people are doing weddings in the weddings as a second job, I know a carpenter, a lot of police officers, journalists, sound men, house wives and a lot of completely irrelevant people! Some people I know from here are going everywhere in Europe to shoot weddings, as it is cheaper to pay someone from here - including flights, than rent someone in UK, or Germany, or Austria.

Yes, of course! First of all I want to state that I have no big experience with weddings -I married in my local town hall!- I have done just a few and I am a pro sight/audio technician since 1999 but honestly I am not at all very fond, and experienced, on such events, but I have been to a few weddings in England and Ireland, again there were a bit different (Catholics), definitely more booze in the Emerald Isle, and I have shot some here, just last year. The whole thing lasts probably a few days; there is a party a day before the wedding, and the wedding lasts from early in the noon (bride/groom preparations and various other shooting), then go to church and the ceremony lasts some time (depends on the priest, really), then you go to a different place were is the big party. Here, the party is consists of different parts, one of the part is traditional Greek music, this specific part - which is very important, especially for parents and grand parents - is being shot entirely and can last a few hours, depending of lot of different factors (how much energy the older generations have, if the couple is more traditional than not, etc etc), after in a while there is mixed music program, and later on, there is the younger's people party. In between there is the couple entrance, there is no speech but the couple goes from table to table and share wishes with ALL the people (some weddings have whole villages invited!). Then, after all these, and usually on an island, there is an after party, usually swimming on a beach bar. After most people are completely exhausted, we go and do some additional shooting of the place, some landmarks, and other stuff. We also try to add some interviews or some words, or else the whole thing is just a video clip, and I mostly work in documentaries, so I would like to add this aspect to these things. For a "big", relatively good paid wedding on an island ( I am not talking about money, as most people from Portland, or Stockholm will laugh of what we earn for that amount of job!) we go early in Friday, start working slightly, do some drone footage, then the party, at night charge batteries, footage on hard drives and backup, next day in the noon we go to the bride and groom (different places, it is the custom) then church/ceremony, then the party, usually the after party (which starts early in the morning) but it doesn't always happen (thankfully!) and then some various shots, as I mentioned above. Between those, we are trying to add interviews, the footage, back up, and we are leaving Monday. One of the worst things, is if all these places are very far apart, that is a logistics nightmare, as The usual output is the trailer, a 30min movie of the whole thing, the whole ceremony (2-3 cameras) and a big portion of the dances, certainly all the traditional part. P.S Had some great time in Manchester when in England. Still have friends there.

C100mkII to a6500 is a leap of faith! The best workhorse camera around the world vs a spec-King, a realistically amazing video camera vs an on paper amazing camera! GH5 is a more reliable and well thought camera. To be fair, the a6xx series was never marketed as a professional camera series (the whole Sony APS-C line wasn't). The trend here is Sony as well, but most of the professionals (especially the older ones) are still Canon/Nikon fanatics. I used to live in UK and the weddings there were nothing at all like Southern Europe, or other parts of the world, maybe you will be alright, I have a couple of friends in England working weddings and they do have A7sII/a6300(a6500) combo. I just mentioned some facts that the cameras weren't good for me. People's needs and experiences vary, and thankfully we got a lot of good (and cheap) cameras these days. Again, sorry if I sounded offensive! For pro video work, I would wait for the rumored C100markIII and FS5ii, I am even considering the new Ursa mini pro, which can take you from a run and gun gig, to a low budget feature film.

@Paul Cryer Exactly what I said, "mainly as a b/c or Gimbal cam to A7sii or A7rii" and in northern Europe (UK is so much northern than Mediterranean!) for a B or C it can be manageable. I do not know exactly the 4K workflow, but here we mainly deliver in 1080p, if you do the same, better check some of your friends footage first. Here, these cameras are used mainly by young people not know any different (or better), as the Sony cameras you are mentioned are the only ones have used in their life, or they used to have a Canon 600 something, or whatever cheap Canon could afford a few years ago. A7sII is the only Sony have a considerable use, and still, for video pro work is very far away from Canon C cameras. Sorry if my first sentence was too much, we just had some hectic time with these Sonys last year (and I just did a few ceremonies, I am trying to avoid such events, as I detest them), and actually one of the guys is selling his, as the problems are too many for something so stressful as an expensive Mediterranean wedding. My other friend is keeping his as a Crane camera, but he is something as a camera collector, he has 5 or 6 already! Imagine a Chinese couple in Santorini paying good money, you just can't risk it! Well, good luck!

Do you have the SmartRange (or whatever is called) on or off? Usually I do not do this kind of shooting, but a couple of weeks ago I had my NX500 doing some crazy stuff (as a B cam, I just brought it for backstage stills, but the DP told me to use it) and never seen anything weird (except the huge differences that had to adjust instantly most of my settings!)

@64mulford Honestly, I am not a purist at all, but shutter speed can be an artistic decision, but not a technical one, because it changes the output considerably that can "change/manipulate" the artistic impression of the viewer. I have choose to use different shutter speeds in action, and even in performance, I like to have one camera handheld very close to the stage, for a completely different "in your face" approach.

@Rinad Amir We all read quite well in this forum, no need for bold and bigger letters to be heard. Canon "will" have 72-75 frames!

True, the ones I meant are the Avengers brand.

@fuzzynormal of course! we all express opinions here, and personal views! I try to use - and test- equipment in working conditions, because that is the ultimate (and only) test for me, and my results are definite, as there are no middle solutions. Just weddings here are very demanding, and this camera isn't destined to used like a work-horse, more like a work-bunny! As I said, if you are working long hours on a hot environment then it isn't the camera for you, then, it depends of the use. Weddings in Northern Europe and North America probably are less demanding.

@joema can you propose as any brands?! The Tiffen is near my top, but I wouldn't mind something more expensive!

These cameras are disappointing, I can't believe that the guy Paul Cryer would buy one for weddings! That is a no go in any way. I do not know where you live, but it the Greek summer, there is no way you can use these cameras for anything more, than a 3rd or 4th camera during the night party, and even then (because here you have to record some parts of the party continuously) you certainly need a workhorse camera for the party (C100s or NX/GH4 are our most common tools, depending the budget). We use the a6300/a6500 at night, were the high ISO performance is really something, but the 18-105 is 4f, and you loose what you gain, e.g versus my 2-2.8f 16-50S lens, while the 18mm aren't that wide, and you need wide more than tele in these situations. This lens, is nothing special, but his in built stabilizer is really good, and for the money I consider it as the best Sony bargain lens. Let's see some facts, in one wedding that we had NX1/GH4 and the newly bought a6300, we used the a6300 only for a smaller portion of time, and still you used 4 batteries (while 2 in the other 2 cameras) and we had to charge at all times, because you never knew when the batteries would be depleted. The dim of the screen is crazy, the camera is almost unusable, seriously, imagine your screen to dim in the Greek summer! This is not a camera for a southerner, or northerner (depending where you stand on the globe!). Also, we could never trust a camera that overheats in these conditions, while my NX cameras, and my friends GH4 can record for hours straight (tested while recording live performances, and some unbelievably hot summer noons). The ergonomics and menu system are probably worst in business, while the a6500 is a bit better (I haven't used it extensively, it seemed a bit better than the a6300), the small and relatively light body can be a burden with a bigger lens (it is a nightmare using it with an EF adapted lens, believe me!), I would say that the 18-105 is the maximum for the a6500, for the a6300 even this seems unbalanced. I rather have a smaller and lighter camera like my NX500 for when I want light, and my NX1 for when I want something more professional with better ergonomics and grip, I am 100% that the next professional Sony mirrorless cameras will be more dSLR-like than before. Some things just work, and are tested for decades. Lack of touch controls (the a6500 gimmicks are no good for video users) is something out of the previous decade, and we are almost over in this one... One of the most important factors for me, that no one talks about, is the fact that the 1080p of these cameras (a6300/a6500) is unbelievably bad "1080 video is surprisingly poor by current standards, even taking a step backward from the original a6000, and falling far behind what the company's own RX100 cameras are capable of." and the crop isn't helping either, "the 120p and 100p modes of Full HD video are shot using a smaller, 1.14x crop in from here and 30p 4K imposes a still tighter, 1.23x crop." The rolling shutter is to seen to believe how bad it is, certainly worst than my NX1, and the NX1s 1080p is near the top 3 of cameras with the lowest rolling shutter, and I am shooting 1080p like 95% of the time anyway. "a7s II FF 1080p --- 30.3 ms (29.5-31.2) a7s II FF 4K ------ 30.4 ms (30.2-30.6) a7s FF 1080p ------ 30.5 ms (30.1-32.0-30.5-30.3-29.2-30.9) XT2 4k ------------ 30.7 ms (30.5-30.7-31.2-31.2-30.8-29.9) NX1 4K ------------ 30.9 ms (30.6-31.6-31.4-30.7-30.2) NX1 UHD ----------- 32.6 ms (32.9-32.0-32.9-32.5) a7R II 4K S35 ----- 33.3 ms (35.6-32.2-32.8-35.3-32.6-31.1) RX100 IV 4K ------- 36.6 ms (36.4-36.7) (without stabilization it's slightly faster: 35.7) a6300 4K 24fps ---- 39.0 ms (39.2-38.9)" and these are the cameras with the lowest RS "BM 4.6K (2K crop)--- 6.3 ms (official) 1DX II 1080p 60&120- 6.7 ms (6.6-6.7) NX1 1080p ---------- 7.9 ms (7.7-8.0-8.1-7.8) NX500 2.5k --------- 8.6 ms (8.2-8.8-8.9)" some of my thoughts.

@Jimmy The Nikon FXM and the Canon M1dx @Arikhan "Spending 4.500 - 5.500 bucks for a capable (portable) FF with reliable AF (like A6500), 60fps (4K), clean 1080p 4.2.2 10bit up to 100/120fps, very good low light skills and a pleasant colour science OOC isn't too much nowadays." What is this camera? If it goes around 8.000euros, I am buying it this summer!

@Arikhan The Tiffen is in my short list, I would like something better though -if possible - and to know if that Zomei is competitive to the "cheap" expensive ones (100-150euros). The cheap ones were really a disaster!

Is this Zomei that good? I have a Fotga one, which I never use, and an equally bad -more expensive- Hama and I am in the market for a good one (150-250$ price range) but I have to wait until May (for tax reasons) and the 150-250$ cost around 200-300 euros in my country (I have to buy locally for tax reasons again!), but if this one is ok, I can just buy it right now off ebay. Another solution would be a very good ND filter, just not variable one, if anyone has something to propose.

@IronFilm What is a "Sound grip"?! 10$/day is a very low wage for anywhere in the Western world though, if you explain me what a "sound grip" is, and what it does, I can learn and comprehend it better. Are you based in Canada now? I thought you were NZ. The ones you have linked, I have work with most of those, but some were definitely Arri and other well know brands, so I can't really tell how good these knock-offs are, try to understand if the connections (joints) seem ok, the metal parts, will be metal parts, easily to copy and match, but the moving parts and "mechanisms" can be tricky. All in all, some of those I remember using since 1999 (I still work with this production company from time to time!) and everything is still perfect (no service, no nothing, they just still work, while other smaller, cheaper, new ones, they already have issues).