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Actually, JJC has a lot value for money products. I have some pistol grips and many accessories for bought from them. Also, recently got all my RF sun hoods from them. I didn't know about the umbrella though!

Some of the people that will buy this camera will make double or more, times more money this year than the 2 of us combined! And it won't even overheat! Haha!

@newfoundmass My argument was that we all didn't start with the equipment we now use..I am not sure that this makes this camera less capable for what it was made for..there are half a dozen Sony cameras one can choose (for around that money) and I choose noone, by the way! For me it is not a big deal, for some people this camera is a dream, and I get it..

Moot point..we now shoot Alexas and high end cameras for big projects, when I started young it was only film and terrible (cheap) digital, then we didn't even have dSLRs shooting video, then we didn't have mirrorless, in 5 years maybe the 4K of the A7sIII will be obsolete and everyone will shoot 8K..how is it possible to know that one will keep a camera for more than 5 years? Maybe the kid shoots with 3 Alexa's next..or what should have done when asked to film for 75$? Buy a 4.000$ camera instantly (which wasn't probably released yet?!?)? Moot point.. Whatever your way is, you never make ONE purchase, and stay with it forever..

no one I know shoots or delivers 4K for long performances/dance/music/theater. someone might, but is definitely not the standard at this side of European Union..still a lot of people use the C100mkII as their moneymakers, hence the high prices for such an old camera. There is always light on stage, it is more likely to overexpose on such a situation than the opposite. It wasn't the right tool for the job, I get it, but it doesn't mean much, or saying anything about this new release, or most of the cameras on the market..I never got a Sony, as it was never the right tool for me, but I never complained that it isn't the right tool, it isn't, for me, but it was right for a lot of people if I have to judge by sales! @newfoundmass I still found the case too specific to matter much..what was the job? I never shoot one camera only on performances, that is just crazy..even when I work alone I use at least 2, or even 3 cameras. With 1 photo camera you just ask for trouble..overheating, change cards (especially if you shoot 4K and above you will need a lot of those), batteries dying, someone trips on the tripod, you have made a small technical mistake - very common for unexperienced videomakers, completely wrong focus or searching/finding the right focus and I can keep going on for a few more lines for sure.. on cases that I shoot alone, and I do not do them anymore but just to keep the conversation going, I have one camera with a widish focal lenght and one with a tele zoom, that is the absolutely minimum..sometimes I was even having one on stage with a fish eye or ultra wide (very impressive for dance performances). If he is really doing long performances, I would keep the A7iii as a B cam, it would be great for interviews as well, or a second body for photography (I always used 2 or 3 bodies for photographing such events..). I would prefer Youtubers, stay on youtube.. I don't know how everyone started on the job, but I started the old school way, with 2 2-year diplomas, one Bachelor of Arts and 24 years of professional experience between those. I wonder what is going to be his next purchase if he wants to become a pilot next..

we just wrapped a few hours ago a documentary for the National TV. The first camera was an A7sIII and the second camera was an A7iii.. for most jobs, even an A7iii is good enough, if you shoot theater productions, even a C100mkII is ideal for it, which is not for most of the other stuff.. This is just one rare case.. most youtubers do not even care for "normal" jobs, and most blue collar videographers do not even know any youtubers..

"It will also be used for taking still photos but this is much less important than the video quality." There is nothing like BMPocket for video quality for the money though..the camera is taking stills also!

Bmagic Pocket would be ideal for the job description. Braw internal also..

Definitely not for us! But these AI "gimmicks" can offer someone with very limited knowledge some "production" values. One of the best Sony sensor/stabilization also helps.. I am not defending the camera, I respect the product placement and the marketing decisions in this.. We all speculate, it will be strange for me to use this camera on any production that I usually work, but I get what are they doing, I guess.

No point videos I call them..what is the point of those? What do we learn? That kids play soccer at some Arabic country? 1:30 minutes of nothingness..

Exactly the opposite, it has tricks and technical specifications that someone with very limited knowledge can achieve results much above his/hers abilities..

I did a small tour around the internets to see what's going on..well, it seems most people agree with my opinion, everyone is talking about the "best vlogging camera", and I am not going to spoil their party.. I also watched some Australian dude shooting outside 4K/50p I think, and didn't have any issues.. Isn't this the FX6 sensor anyway? For YouTubers earning my money, or ones willing to be like their idols, this will be marketed as THE vlogging camera to have, and for the price, anyone can buy it, usually they spend a lot more for silly gimmicks, like offering money to waitresses, or cars, or go to a one day trip to Solomon islands, or drive a Bugatti or a F-15 jet, so spending 2.500$ for a camera and a couple of lenses is their least concern, especially if it is THE BEST VLOGGING CAMERA, out there. I mean, 2.200$ is very cheap for THE BEST anything! I am not sure if interests any one of us here though..we are definitely not the target group, but most - except me ofcourse! - had or have, or will have a Sony camera, so they do a lot of things right and the proof is in you at some point have invested on a Sony camera and/or lenses..

Because we are not going to agree on pricing let's take the U.S one, it is 3.500 with 2.200$. = 37% less If it is a trap, and full hype, and cripple hammered, let's just called it marketing and market and product fragmentation! Obviously I am not supporting the camera, I wouldn't buy a Sony even if they were free of charge..but I am trying to be realistic and I see a lot of marketing (let's say, traps) traps here for the uninitiated.. What would most vloggers think? Tiny body that sees in the dark with the most blurry stuff at the background that always keeps me in frame, stabilized, and mostly in focus, and just need one battery per day. All these while is very similar to the super expensive and professional bigger camera while I got it for 37% less. Also. FULL FRAME! what a bargain! They will have a kit lens and one cheap prime to make them feel pro, and that's it.. ..that is my impression of this release, and have all the basic stuff for commercial success, and camera companies are trying to sell cameras and lenses. There is no shame on that..

There are plenty of F and A cameras to choose from..this is a "top" vlogging camera with most of the insides of a 3.800 camera for almost 60% of that price..it is pretty obvious it won't be that camera, or else it wouldn't be a new release and it would cost the same 3.800.. There isn't a niche market that Sony isn't the leader at the moment. Most do not even have a competitive model..Sony runs this race alone! What is to criticise when there is no competition? And they even have a full vlogging line up from 1", APS-C to full frame now. Obviously it is not a camera targeting the People here, but I have to respect the clever market fragmentation and targeting by Sony management. This camera clicks all the boxes for the intended target group, and then clicks some more with the A.I (is it really A.I?) chip and all the gimmicks "simpler" content creators (yes, those we have mentioned before!) will love.

Nowhere says "unlimited recording for the seasoned professional", you misunderstood the product.. ..if you are still searching for the perfect camera, you will always be! Especially these days manufacturers seem to over specialize.. It's really simple what the E1 offers and why is going to be a big hit.. 1) Cutting-edge technology for vloggers Working with the ZV-E1's 12.1 MP1 full-frame sensor, the latest BIONZ XR™ engine provides high-speed processing to support 4K 60p, 120p upgradable2 recording, while an AI processing unit improves subject-recognition capabilities for advanced vlogging applications - a very famous sensor with great chips around it! Zirgons, diamonds and pearls and fancy epistimonic words help to give gravitas anyway! 2) Sony's E-mount system Vary your imagery with different lenses - as I said, lenses became a huge advantage from a disadvantage for Sony 3)Intuitive Cinematic Vlog Setting Create memorable imagery with S-Cinetone™ and other settings By using Cinematic Vlog Setting5 and choosing a Look and Mood6, you can create cinematic vlog footage that matches the scene and your creative intent. The overall cinematic feel is further enhanced by the use of a 24 fps7 frame rate and the widescreen Cinemascope aspect ratio (2.35:1)8 with black bands above and below the image. - "Cinematic" always sells cameras! Everyone wants to be "cinematic" whatever that is..Certainly has black bars above and below! 4)Rely on stable camera work 5-axis in-body image stabilisation, Dynamic active Mode and Framing Stabilizer - a good stabilizer and a couple of gimmicks for the lazy ones.. 5)AI-based Auto Framing for movies Automatically adjust the framing to highlight your main subject - for zombies that want to be filmmakers! 6)Real-time Recognition AF Human pose estimation using a skeleton-based model - for zombies filming mummies! 7) Slow and Quick Motion Capture action in superhuman detail - for the Marvel funs and whoever wants to feel super..(funs of Thus Spoken Zarathustra included..the original super human) 😎Creative zoom control (the rocker in the on/off dial - ok, that is good to have regardless 9) 3 mic audio - sounds better than the usual and typical arrangement 10) amazing battery - after half a dozen of years with terrible battery life, when they did it, they really did it.. 11) smallest full frame camera - is it really? HUGE selling point.. 12) A7sIII lite for a portion of the price - ofcourse it isn't the A7Siii, so it doesn't cost as much.. everyone's happy..if someone needs what the A7Siii does and have..well...yes, right..

Z battery and IBIS plus all the gimmicks, (huge) PLUS LENSES suitable for the task. Marketed as an A7SmkIII lite.. R6mkII still 3.200€ R8 is 1.939€ A7SmkIII 3.999€ A7c is 1.999€ I am still waiting for the official local pricing, but it seems to me as perfectly fine for the targeted group, plus there are many more options up and down.

Sony is dominating the market at the moment. Every release is a power move it seems. For the targeted group is perfectly fine and the price very competitive..there are lesser options in APS-C with loads of new wide and ultra wide lenses for cheaper. Sony did it again..and I hate them for it.. ...meanwhile in Canon-land, the R8 is still 1930euros! If the trend continues, it will be all Sony until the end of decade..

I have inside information that Version 4 was referred internally as "The Reid Debacle"!

As I said before, I just decided this summer to go the painful and full of compromises RF way. Image is just like my 3rd job in the industry at the moment (I like to switch from time to time! mainly doing sound and assistant director for a few years for TV drama now), but I would like to come back to do smaller and more personal projects, because TV life gets tiring and stressful and I am not getting any younger! I noticed the young generation are embracing just all these new technological advances, so I decided to experience this kind of attitude (though I haven't on a project yet, but I hope soon) and decided to invest on an R7 camera. SOOC, IBIS and AF is what most shoot for most "low budget" (or not that low!) projects and even in their movies and I have seen TV shows even use some of that (specifically, AF on new Sony/Canon "cine" cameras). I am of that generation Y that uses always full manual everything and considers"amateurish" any Auto mode on any camera (except maybe the Auto ISO!), but I am willing to explore more of the other side now. I feel like a combo of an R8 and R7, especially for those that already own a good deal of AF EF lenses, is a very cheap and good way to cover a huge amount of the most basic and lower, but huge, market base of the industry, and still have some abilities for more moderately upper jobs if you know your tools well. That is my impression of the now, at least..

I am joking ofcourse, obviously we are on a camera forum, what else should we talk about?! I have definitely hundreds of such posts here! But 1) R7 is this kind of camera that feels that shoots above its specs and is just plain enjoyable to use. Some cameras do that. It is no perfect by any means, but it can be a cheap workhorse camera for dozen of basic stuff we most do. 2) even now, and even for specific pro work, I am just amazed how good a camera of 2015 (NX1) can be and what incredible image can be achieved just SOOC! 3) a month ago I was on a TV shot that the main camera was an Arri and the second - doing most of the static product shots - was an BMP6K! The very good (and successful) local DP was like "it will be perfectly fine" 4) I feel like I am reading/watching/talking about equipment more than I should! But that can be just me, and only after (almost) 30 years reading/watching/talking about equipment. In the TV doc I am working these days we mostly do that with the DP and the camera op that are very technical also. I am sure we will do the same today also!

guys, just grab an R7 and go outside and shoot already!

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One less pointless trip to the stratosphere (barely space!) would run DPR for 4 or 5 lives! The forum there had a very strong NX presence, I hope we can attract here most of that traffic, even thought there are too many hobbyists and newbies, which I am not sure if they are the right target group for eoshd, still, it is a possibility..

"Price slightly below $2,500" 🤔

Focus with a sun hood?! I believe all the bright ones have funs because of the heat..