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Thank you very much. I have an eternal crusade to find a good vND that do not cost north of 200€! I will check this as well. Breakthrough photography seems to offer the best solutions but it costs more than 300€ with taxes and customs. I can not find a lot of reviews either, and not many people know that this lens exist, so I took a leap of faith! My gamble is that it is a new design, while the 14mm was never impressive anyway, and can be a 16mm in FF (pretty wide already!) and 24mm in S35 (love that focal length). Also a bit faster than the 14mm.

Mayne they just trying to get rid of stock. There are huge discounts in 80D kits also. It is almost a certainty that the 90D is coming. Maybe the new good Sony is coming also, the X-H2 before Xmas, maybe a couple of new m43 cameras..X-T30 and a6400 and a lot of entry level FF cameras are dead cheap these days. M43 has to sell for significantly less to keep existing (except specialized video machines of course).

Do not overthink about it. How can you loose financially when the P4K is half the money, and costs so little anyway? And already use it for sometime, which again costs something on the bigger scheme of things. 6K is a special case but we will have 8K cameras on reasonable prices as soon as October (Z cam), so if you want to save money for something, start saving for the next Pocket 8K next year! Some people will get the P6K, I really doubt it will reach the P4K phenomenon. Not even the 8K - when it comes. 4K will be good for a lot of years, and do not forget that P6K has on average X2.4 more data to handle (if I remember right), so better and bigger and faster - and more expensive - camera media, a very powerful editing suite, and a lot a lot of hard drives. Also, there is a mismatch with resolutions and codecs on the 6K, do not know why and if and when that will change. Battery life seems to be even shorter on the 6K, a bit bigger and a bit heavier (700 something to 900 something is a significant increase) camera. The EF can be perfect for some when thinking S35 all their lives, but this is a X1.6 camera, while the P4K an X1.9, the difference is a lot smaller than a proper X1.4-X1.5 S35 sensor and a X2.0 normal m43 one. Also, amazing Lucadapter turns it into X1.1 but you can't take it off easily to use EF-S lenses, and I know a lot of people having EF-S from their C100 days, so it is not such a straightforward option as an m43 adapter, which can be anything from X0.64 to X0.75 to vND dumb adapter to a simple X2.0. What I am saying is that it isn't as simple as "6K is better than 4K, I am getting the 6K", there are a lot of variables to consider. Usually a bigger sensor is the best, but the EF mount is kind of limiting in this age, and the P4K's sensor is already a monster in low light, speedboosted you gain another stop, so one of the huge difference of the past isn't a factor anymore. I am trying to make my case on my mind, I can afford the P6K and I am building a new PC soon, but do I really have to go to 6K? That means I will have to shoot 6K for braw? I will also love to use m43 zooms for run and gun, have you seen how small and light those are? My biggest issue is the 1080 deliveries and live events I shoot from time to time. This is the most dissapointing factor for me of these cameras. 95% of what I do I deliver in 1080p, even if I take it down to 80% this year, I still need great 1080p cameras. Imagine an 150minutes event that I use 3-4 cameras usually.

https://nikonrumors.com/2019/08/15/nikon-z-mirrorless-aps-c-camera-mockups.aspx/ ..and because we love to speculate there is this rumor..I wonder what native lenses are people going to use with this one.. APS-C mirrorless sell like hot cakes though - relatively (X cameras, a6xxx cameras, even M cameras keeping Canon high in sales!) - maybe Nikon wants some of that. There is also the announcement of a filmaking revolution from Nikon India in 19 of August. Wish it was a new video specialized Nikon camera.

What about this one? https://www.samyanglensglobal.com/en/m/product/product-view.php?seq=230 The 14mm is an "ancient" design with some flaws. I will be getting the 16mm the next couple of weeks but I am not going to have time to test it I think. What about this Haida VariND? Is it any good? Do you have a link for the specific one?

The info is here. Look at the So How Does It Works section and video. https://www.newsshooter.com/2019/08/13/lucadapters-magicbooster-for-the-bmpcc-6k/

"The Z Cam E2-S6 S35 6K camera will cost $3,995 USD and is scheduled to be available in October this year. This model will be available in either PL/EF or M4/3 mounts. The E2-F6 FF model will be available in PL or EF mount for $4,995 USD. The E2-F8 full frame will be available in PL or EF mount for $5,995 USD" This is the competition! I am not sure how high a hybrid camera can go. Probably just 4K/10bit for now. Maybe more for an m43(GH6?), it is very difficult a mainstream camera maker (except Panasonic) bring any kind of internal raw or higher resolution for 2019/2020. BM already seriously undercut Z cam prices without anything serious missing, plus a 5" screen, plus the license key, plus better sound options. So, do you see a difference between P6K/P4K footage? What about higher ISO?

Haha! Vitaly is a great character in the community! Never loose a moment going against capitalism and the rulling classes! Don't think freedom of speech was a thing in U.S.S.R though! Independent spirits is all we need, all across the spectrum.

Usually camera mics are terrible quality, posotioned completely wrong. Omnis are the equivalent of 360 degrees of video, so not a great solution because there is no 360 degrees lenses. One of the best cheap solutions is the Sennheiser MKE-440, directional stereo. Zoom H3 VR is an interesting device. I do not like very much stereo solutions with no directionality (e.g most stereo mics by Rode and others).

I did a little reading on the reduser forums and people there believe that P6K upsets more P4K owners than anyone else. The possibility of having a 6K sensor is great, but in reality it can be a burden for budget and feature consious users which P4K owners are (so many features for so little money!). What do P4K owners think? Do they have to update? Do they need to? What's your impression now that P6K are already available while some people are still waiting for their backordered P4Ks?

The Lucadapter Magicbooster makes the 6K a more interesting proposition, in my opinion. I know there is excellent S35 lenses to use, but let's get real, the vast majority of Pocket owners will be using EF glass on them. It would be interesting to have a special/tele mode on those, I am using the S35 feature on A7 cameras and is a great tool, especially when you are running with only a couple of primes with you. One big minus as of know is the - something I read - X2.4 more data needed, so a lot more money for media on the field and more additional hard drives and probably bigger SSDs for editing at home, e.t.c.

That was my point. Anyone can find a weak link and "attack" it. We are better than this. The guy is judged by what he is saying, an aggressive violent comment, not who he is and what his purposes are. Obviously he is spreading hate and negative feelings!

Does it have anything to do with the difference in the sensor's stack size? If the sensor is a normal, around 4mm, depth it has an advantage to the 2.4-2.5mm of the P4K. It certainly needs testing, and I hope someone will do the normal m43 to the BM 43 Metabones in different lenses, focal lengths and apertures.

Haha! Your content here is kind of limited too! There is no point in witch hunting, the point is to create better people and better arguments, not attacking weak links. I have no legal knowledge whatsoever and the whole thing is out of my league but clearly the next era of video productions will be a lot different after all these are said and done. And the freedom of speech is undisputed.

Add an Osmo and an iPhone there, and even @webrunner5 will be back for good! I would pay for a such a showdown with that Skip guy!

I read the same comment last night and it is both sad and scary that someone would reply like this in the wake of the 21st century on a western state. All these are completely out of my league but what do I get is that the world suddenly have become too violent, and our "enemies" have to be eliminated or shutting up forever..this brings a certain middle-Aged smell in the atmosphere, of burned human flesh! Of course I am exaggerating, or maybe not? I mean, it is a simple matter of finding the truth about some codec and the other part is willing to annihilate ethically and/or professionaly one person, what's next? Far far west solutions? Alas, this is happening, people are taking the "law" into their hands and became judge/jury and punisher, this is a reality of our time, if we do not carefully protect our freedoms and laws after thousands of years of human struggle then a dog eat dog/big fish eats small/the law of the jungle will be tommorows law. The war for the human rights is an eternal struggle, if socities relax for a couple of years, boom! Suddenly we are a couple of decades back! It wasn't long ago that women and minorities didn't have a saying on most countries of this world, and surprisingly they still don't on a big part of this planet. I just hope Red is better than this, and they should be careful with the posts in their friendly forums. It is one thing to disagree with someone and have a civilized response and another thing to silence them with show of force or scare tactics. Same here, we shouldn't hope for the demise of anyone and anything, the camera market is enough for everyone of us, and I hoped a much more civilized and above average industry.

https://www.newsshooter.com/2019/08/09/blackmagic-design-releases-pocket-cinema-camera-6k-with-ef-mount/#disqus_thread Can you find your answer on the tables of this article?

I am not sure if that is posted already https://www.newsshooter.com/2019/08/16/apple-challenges-red-over-raw-patent-legitimacy/ Some interesting comments - speculation of course! - under the article. It is good that Newsshooter exposes the matter, it is the only site I read regularly with some trust on them and I wouldn't like to be disappointed.

So, you guys believe that the Viltrox is similar in quality with the Metabones?

3200ISO + maybe a couple more stops. This is what interests me more, if the new camera has similar or better ISO performance.

My maths betrayed me once more! We certainly need more info in specs/sensor/pricing e.t.c I go for a swim. 40C here..

Jarred's tweet, this is posted multiple times: "It is not DSMC3 It is not a replacement for DSMC2 It is not 8k VV It is not a Dragon or a Helium or a Gemini or a Monstro Sensor It does not have an HDMI port It does not use proprietary media It is not a “module” It is not under $5k, unless you own a Hydrogen. It has no XLR ports It does not have a fixed lens It’s body does not weight more than 2 pounds. It is not larger than 4 inches in any dimension." When it says "it is not under $5K, unless you own a Hydrogen", then logic dictates that it going to be AT LEAST 5000$ plus something else, maybe a Hydrogen, maybe an Atomos, maybe only a monitor. I am not sure how the "3500$" came into conversation. Also it says "It does not use proprietary media", which is self explained I guess. This seems like a great camera but we have to learn more about it as it may seriously undermine a lot of Red's products, but it maybe not enough to convince people to spend 50% or 100% or even a bigger percentage of money, when P6K is already here and Z 6K is coming soon. We will see. Maybe after all, Red just needs a good story, maybe this is their chance to bring something positive and maybe they have to lower the aforementioned price significantly to compete.

..and suddenly the P6K thread is dead silent! Do you remember what was going on when the P4K was announced? The P6K is an excellent and very reasonably priced option for 6K and EF aficionados, but the price and features of P4K spoiled us all for ever!

I do not want to participate but a specific someone is playing us like a fiddle for 15 pages now. Drags people into the nonsense abyss and single handedly destroyed the P6K thread for everyone that is trying to learn anything at all about this camera. Also, is the individual attacking most people on the smaller amount of time I have ever seen here. Stop feeding him and please try to not completely loose control of the thread, any thread.

Soderbergh will shoot with anything these days. A piece of clothing, animal, or overpriced phone is the same to him. Still like him! The funny thing is that this seems like one of the most significant Red releases as of late..