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Do you have any recent rumors about that XC camera? For me, it has the best ergonomic design for a small video camera. Wish BM had gone that route for the P4K. Could be nice with the cheap EF-M lenses, which I am reading they are hit or miss, QC-wise..

In the end, everyone chooses Can-n-on!

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Who r those? Are these youtube celebrities or smthng? I opened the video for a few seconds and it was embarrassingly unwatchable. You are very brave to reach the 4:03!

Everyone is doing weddings these days, most of them are buying an a6300/6500 with the 18-105mm, I see this group buying into the a6400 and charge silly money for very bad jobs, like most of them do, anyway. This is going to sell to the dozens of thousands. People underestimate the APS-C sales, Sony's biggest success is the aXXXX series, still at, or near the top at the total mILC/ILC sales.

Me too. Just testing with my NX1 cameras at the moment and the 16-50S, which is my heaviest lens, and can't say everything is perfect. The camera has to be close to the right arm, as closer as possible, to achieve excellent status on the self diagnostic program. You are fine with just the small riser thingy that is included? I have to use that also, or else the lens doesn't fit.

Did you check on the "and many others" section?

How is the experience with the Pocket? Is it easy to balance?

Nothing to do with the P4K. Not in the slightest. I mean, they both have some buttons, a screen, a sensor and record on media cards, but not much more in common. The one is an everyday cheap camera, and the other a cheap cinema camera. This is going to be a best seller for sure. Didn't we expect a pro APS-C?

A year or two, or a decade or two? 20X0 gpus are not that much better than 10X0 ones, 4K gaming is still very hard on resources and on pockets, editing/post processing also. How it is shaping up exactly, there are some 100.000+$€£ S35 cameras, and a non working prototype that Dave open the screen with the outemost care, for not braking it! It is non existent yet. 8K is important for VR/360 in my opinion, and that will drive it considerably, I agree, but in a different sense than what we are experiencing with 1080p/4K hardware. It is going to be a whole new thing with newer range of products. I checked TVs this Christmas, and even 65 is the bare maximum, I can put in my house, so no 8K for me yet!

I am wondering what would be appropriate to give a couple - or three - of more stops, on a still portable set. A similar set but for 4-5.6f/400ISO. Obviously a larger light and with, let's say, double-triple the money.

I know you said "a major manufacturer" but the P4K does it already, while look at the price point of Canon amd Sony that does that. I do not want to derail the conversation, but we can't just ignore a camera like this. It is funny thought the fact that most people do not even own a 10bit workflow, and dream of more bits already!

Even now is a good option. 4:2:2 4K 8bit to SD cards and UHD 4K/60p with an Atomos (does it with the V though?) raw maybe is too much to ask. Certainly the new one with the Atomos cheap. I believe we still have interesting things to expect from JVC. They have produced excellent camcorders in the past.

Interesting, Young was in Black Magic as well, while they took most of the Canopus employees! The agreement with JVC ends June 2019. LS300 was a very promising and groundbraking machine, if they can match the AtomIC1 SoC with a dual ISO variable sensor, then they have a winner in their hands. Imagine a P4K with an APS-C sensor and native m43 mount with inbuild ND (yes, this is still the Holy Grail) and all the rest.

that must be explain it then. Thank you.

The Smart Controllers combo are exactly 500euros more. One have to pay a serious premium, even in the bundle.

Have you ever tried to edit/grade all those cameras you are mentioning all the time? Seriously.. Even the Soderbergh iphone film that had a very good budget seemed exactly like a story shot from a phone camera. Even the older Mavic that was a 1300$ machine last year, was almost unusable for pro work. Same with ALL the action cameras of last year (except maybe the 1" Sony, but I haven't used that one). Even the Mavic 2 Pro is barely usable (big difference vs the Phantom). Also, a paradox, you except from someone that has a phone and a gopro to be a master of grading? Which means have spent a ton of money for education and practice (and hardware/software) but can not afford a 500$ mILC camera? You have distanced yourself from the market so much, that you have crossed the other side! And yes, you shot with a 1000$€£ phone that has a 10 years old videocamera quality (which is great anyway and I am all for it) but in the same time you buy a 1000$€£ camera that shoots cinematic raw. The lower of the low improves all the time, but the same goes for the middle and higher market. Pro grade stuff will be always be a few steps ahead, because it is a market, and there are too many professions/money/expectations involved.

https://***URL not allowed***/sharp-8k-micro-four-thirds-camera-teased/ There is no mystery about it, is a m43 camera, and the mount keeps going on, by the way!

I have the cheap Edelkrones, and boy, they work. They do just a slight movement, but they fit in my camera bag (at least the slider does) and up my production values significantly. Bigger companies I work for have the bigger Edelkrone's. One problem is that they change machines all the time, in a way you have to buy new every couple of years to stay current with their models (hardware and software). Visit their page @mercer, you will be surprised this is the cheapest one. https://edelkrone.eu/products/sliderone-pro

I am not sure why we have to do this comparison. The Pocket, is the smallest, lightest and cheaper Cinema camera, that can film your kids play in elementary, or a short film that can be shown to a cinema screen. The amazing thing with this camera is that brought - almost - cine quality to the masses, while you can stick a cheap stabilized m43, be it tele, or all arounder PZ, and do your everyday thing. It is completely unfair to treat this camera like the next hybrid. If you want a good all around camera, you have already one, the NX1, stick the 16-50S on it and go out and gain some money, and for what? for 600-800$? Keep it for a year (and a half!) and then sell it for the same money, probably. If you are searching for a new hybrid system to support, then Z seems like the most complete proposition right now, but seriously, what are the native lenses choices? I am waiting on all those systems until are mature enough, that means at least 5-8 lenses that I really need, and the Pana-Leica-Sigma will be competitive, it is a very interesting alliance, I wouldn't buy anything without seeing what they offer first. If one searches for a cheap cine camera, that can be used for everything, from filming your daughter's birthday, to your sons basketball game, to weddings, music shows, short film, even a feature, B cam/crash cam to the big boys, then P4K is the one and only, it is a steal really, but it is not a full frame hybrid, certainly not!

"Zero background in video"? The Arri zoom lenses are Fuji.

Haven't thought of it, buying a 18-80, you can put it in everything with an adapter? And what about the electronics and stabilization? @Django I love the cheap CN-E, but it is bogus, at least, to call the 14-30mm expensive (while the Sony 16-35 is more expensive) and the cheap CN-Es are 10.000€ for the 2 (18-80 & 70-200) while in reality they are more an advanced and improved EF version, than real cine lenses. And the MK lenses, have no electronics inside whatsoever, which is sad, and unpractical, at least. These are reasons that Sony dominates the video market these days, offering ultra cheap 18-110mm video optimized lenses that fit ALL their cameras, and while in reality they are worst than the aforementioned lenses, overal they are a best buy choice, matching well their FS cameras.

Finally you are coming down to my words, this is a device that not a lot of people want/need, because most already buy a good camera phone, or have dedicated cameras a plenty (action cams, 360, crash cams, small mILS, compacts, e.t.c) or other DJI products. The market for this thing is lesser than what you thought a month ago, and that is a fact.

On a casual sightseeing scene, e.g a Samsung NX500 with 28mpxls for photo and 4K/H265 is enough for everyone. Or an X-T20 for that matter, or a M50. Why to spend 3000€ for a Nikon Z kit to sightseeing??!! What I mean is, you go to the other way around, while a middle solution would be enough for 99% of the people. What my conclusion is, Proxy is good enough for the minimum lowest quality. Sometimes for some things I do not care that much and I am trying to save space, I shoot 720p. What I am saying is that the fight to the bottom is not a significant one, almost anyone can shoot decent low quality footage, the higher ones are the most expensive and unpractical, and there, P4K wins hands down every other proposition for money to video quality ratio.