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Yeah, the price-info is outdated and there are some bad mistakes too . E.G. RED's Epic was not available untill november 2010 ! So the "Epic-movies" from 2009 & 2010 like "Social Network", "Book of Eli" and "District 9" was shot on RED ONE ... ;-) And remembering the Canon-DSLR-movie--discussion I noted that the later Blomenkamp "Chappie" uses 5 D mark 3 mixed with Epic Dragon and others ! But the cameras/brands are very observant, looks right to me - they made a good overview !

Regarding what films are shot with - such as 5D Mark3 (or not ?) - I found a very interesting article here : http://filmmakersfans.com/kind-of-camera-used-for-movie-making/ >> Actually, which camera is used for movie making? Added on July 27, 2015 Which camera is best for making films? If you are new to the filmmaking, you must thought about this ever once. A cameraman/filmmaker is selecting a film camera on the basis of proficiency in the technology, his flexibility and the basis of project: Okay, then which camera is best for making the films? Check out below, you probably can find a satisfying answer from this article. 1. ARRI Alexa ARRI Alex is a motion picture equipment manufacturing company, which was founded by August Arnold and Robert Richter in Munich, Germany. The organization was formed in the year 1917 and they developed their first film camera in 1924. The company became well known in the limelight, after their chief movie camera designer ‘Erich Kästner’ developed world’s first reflex mirror shutter in the Arriflex 35 camera. Now, they have seven variant of film cameras namely- Alexa, Alexa Plus, Alexa SXT, Alexa Mini, Alexa Plus 4:3, Alexa 65, Alexa XT, Alexa Studio and Alexa M. The films like In Time (2011), 21 Jump Street (2012), Skyfall (2012), Rock of Ages (2012) and Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter (2012). The basic model of the ARRI camera includes a View Finder starts at $39.999. 2. Red Epic Camera The Red Epic camera is a product of The Red Digital Cinema Camera Company, based in Irvine, California. The company was founded by Jim Jannard, in 2005: The first camera that was developed from The Red Digital Cinema Camera Company was – Red one, the Red Epic Camera is the most recent one. Some notable features that are included in the Red Epic camera are 19 megapixel Red Dragon sensor, 1920 x 1080 resolution High-def output, cheaper in price and weightless. Movies like District 9 (2009), Book of Eli (2010), Social Network (2010), the Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012) and War Horse (2011) are visualized using the epic camera. Cost of The Red Epic camera is starts at $25,000 3. Red Scarlet Camera The Red scarlet camera is another film camera variant from The Red Digital Cinema Camera Company. We’ve noticed that numerous films of Hollywood are filmed with the Red Scarlet Camera. Some examples of films shot on Red Scarlet Camera are En solitaire (2013), The Expendables 3 (2014), The Raid 2: Berandal (2014), Drinking Buddies (2013) and Ghostlight (2013). Price of Red Scarlet camera is $9,700. 4. Sony Motion Picture Camera Sony- a Japan based brand well-known since from its establishment for the manufacturing of top quality electronic equipments. Sony had developed high end professional camera models such as FS7, F5, F3, F55 and F65.Amonmg those five variant models, the cameras like F55, F3 and F65 are the industry professionals preferred cameras. F65 was launched two years back, it cost around $65,000, similarly the cost of F55 is ‎US$ 28,990.00 and cost of F3 is $13,960.00. 5. GoPro After the Sony, ARRI and Red, the camera manufacturer name that that industry professionals recommend is GoPro. GoPro, Inc was founded by Nick Woodman in 2002. GoPro cameras are compactable in size options, shock resistant and have waterproof casing structure. It is also a favourite camera of guerrilla filmmakers. The Premier Hollywood movie ‘Furious 7’ was completely shot on GoPro. Basic prize of GoPro camera starts at US$499.99. 6. Black Magic Camera Black Magic Camera is one of the most preferable cameras of indie filmmakers and experimental filmmakers, why because it is cost less as compare with the big brands, also it gives better video outputs. Blackmagic Design is a product of Blackmagic Design Pty Ltd, an Australian Company that was founded by Grant Petty in 1984. You can grab a good high end digital film camera that branded by black magic for $2,995. Films like -Hero Punk (2015), Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) and inside the belly of a dragon (2014) are shot on Black Magic Camera. Shot Film On ‘Penny’ filmed on Black Magic Camera 7. Canon C300 Canon C300 is specially designed for film industry professionals: it is included with the core features such as Super 35mm-Size CMOS Sensor, EF lens mount and it highly compatible with all of Canon’s new EF Cinema lenses. The movies that shot on canon c 300 are Her (2013), 20 Feet from Stardom (2013), Blue Ruin (2013) and R.A. Resident Advisor (2012). The starting price of canon C300 camera is $6,999.00. <<

PS : Thanks again everyone for stopping my Raven-mania; I owe You all an icecream, so next time You're in Denmark PM first ! NB : Yes, I know You want Peppermint choc chip, Squig ! ;-)

Glad You enjoy it jgharding ! ;-) Hope to find one soon myself ... Actually, in March a Scarlet-X was sold for $ 4.000 at reduser.net (with Side 1.8" SSD Module + Side Handle + AC Adapter + EF Mount), but presently the prices on reduser & ebay suffer from wild spring fever, people asking $ 14.625 for a bit more than was sold for $ 4.000 ! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Red-Scarlet-Lightweight-studio-package-/201565501300?hash=item2eee3d7774:g:6wUAAOSwyQtVlrxJ Yes, it's an auction and I'll kick in where I can, so people don't get used to see this insane pricelevel ... Finally I must thank EVERYONE at this forum for, in so many different ways, helping me resist buying "The Raven-package" and spending (EURO) € 10.000 which equals about $ 11.569 ! Thanks for "diverting my blinkers set for catastrophe" - honestly, I am VERY gratefull ... ;-) As a matter of fact EU's import-taxes would only demand (EURO) € 9.000 [ = $ 10.412 ] but RED apparently wants to earn 10 % more on Europeans ... And for those who, like me would have ordered now, here's the nonchalant message from RED today : "ORDERS PLACED TODAY EXPECT TO BE SHIPPED IN FALL 2016" But, they kept their word and raised the "Raven-prices" with a $ 1.000 and for Europe of course with € 1.000 !

OK, here's where we should help these guys ...! NOT by supplying deposits, but by turning to competitors of the dominant RED, BlackMagic, Canon & Sony ! I don't mean TerraTech (they'll do fine alone), but Panasonic, Samsung, Fuji and so on . Maybe LG would be the perfect partner with their low prices for many high-quality-devices ? Or ... Dare I say it ? ARRI could sell this camera by a blink of an eye ! ;-) (We really do need some more, better & happier emoticons !) I think these companies want a bit/bite of the cake and it would give healthy competition, heghtening the old companies quality & specs/tricks and lowering their prices too ! Good for us consumers ! So let's address a petition to these newbies (except ARRI of course) cause they know we're the 25.000 users (?) who'll make the opinions of tomorrow . Just my 5 cents, folks ! I'lll bet an ice-cream one of the "new" companies will take CraftCamera serious (Just tell them, that the other companies ALSO got invitations) and if THEY won't maybe INTEL or AMD could step in with processors ! I gave the idea, YOU make a petition ! NB : This is NOT meant to ridicule the CraftCamera - I actually think a huge company would make this a success for both "Either this CraftCamera is dead or else my watch has stopped ..."

"How do we change the world ?" someone asked Solomon the wise . "By creating it everyday !"

I'm posting all that sh.. here so there is an UNCHANGED COPY AT EOSHD.COM if someone at CraftCamera edits the terms ... And for people to easier see it and discuus the small print !

Actually mercer did approach Your subjects earlier, but I think there is one thing in particular everyone should take a closer look at and those who have legal minds can if needed warn us about any "future-incidents" and their eventual right to KEEP the deposits ... "Now the party of the first part shall be known in this contract as the party of the first part." Here's their VEEERRRYY long contract, I mean TERMS & CONDITIONS ... CRAFT DIGITAL SYSTEMS INC. TERMS & CONDITIONS Craft Digital Systems, Inc. (“Craft,” ‘we,” “us,” “our” or terms of similar import) welcomes you! We are very excited that you have decided to use our products and services. By using our products and services, you are agreeing to these terms. Please read them carefully. 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Actually 13 stops is high for Global Shutter; the Terra5K has 13 stops for Global and 15 for Rolling shutter ! And at 120 fps I have to agree that it's cool - and I was against it ! But still a possible scam ...

Really ? You see Denmark use 24 hours; not AM/PM - and how many timezones has US ? 24:00 may be more military-like, but we avoid mistaking "AM-meetings" for "PM-meetings" ! At least we keep the thread active ... and up front !

12 more (or 13 hours) to go, this is going to be exciting ! I'll bet an Ice-cream on it's a legitimate company with a forgettable strategy ... At least it's cheaper than Raven and I get a free bonus in the SM-club ! Plus a freee 1-cent donation for the politically incorrect ($)

OK, I just learned Magic Lantern RAW came out June 2013 ... So now we all know !!! And let THAT be a lesson for kids ... I apologize for my peasantly ignorance, how stupid of me assuming that RAW was enabled from the start in autumn 2009 ! So, it took them 4 years to make RAW without audio recording ? And till this day only 1 = 5DMK3 can shoot fullHD, stabile ? But apparently 5DMK2 makes footage good enough to be part of famous films ? Without ML RAW ... or RRROOOAAARR ? BTW ... does Magic Lantern still disable auto-focus in movie mode ?!?!? And what else haven't You told me Chico, erh, I mean squig ? PS : BUT I know something more than YOU, SQUIG !!! And probably lady "Kubrick" too ..... "Magic Lantern is not a "hack", or a modified firmware, it is an independent program that runs alongside Canon's own software. Each time you start your camera, Magic Lantern is loaded from your memory card. Our only modification was to enable the ability to run software from the memory card." AND "It does not replace the existing firmware, but instead runs along side of it. There is no need to "uninstall" it -- simply format your card to reboot to the stock Canon firmware." http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/Magic_Lantern_Firmware_Wiki

Nothing here ...

Excuse me, but I know what you were talking about ...And I'll bet an Icecream on that these 5DMK2 had their Magic Lantern turned on as well And searching for specific 5DMK-3-movies (more famous than an tarctican horrorfilm) didn't give useable results + Nikon seems to be usefull too !

Actually, Im looking into NIKON's D810 instead of CANON 5DMK3 (But I still think that filming might be easier with a RED Scarlet-x MX !) These 3 are the current top-candidates on my - as You can see - very flexible list ! Remember, I practically "begged" You to stop me from spending a Raven fortune and I thank You all - no exception ! ;-) NOT EVEN AaronChicago & Jimmy who tried to "tootsie-frootsie-icecream" me into buying "a "Boeing 747" ...