mechanicalEYE

Thats insane. Seems almost criminal.

Market share still commands the price and I doubt they're going to damper the R5 momentum down with going that high. Sony will love for Canon to price the R5 out of its lane.

For sure. Strange they haven't responded to you on the issue which is almost worse than the issue itself. Losing shots to power failure is definitely unacceptable. Maybe your blog post will induce a response.

Listing could be a placeholder. Theres no way they should be accepting orders for the camera at this point anyway.

I appreciate the heads up on this. You might remember in the past I asked you if you had any SL2 footage you could share as I had been considering this camera for a bit. Guess it's backorder status and lack of footage online saved me.

You dont have EF lenses? You mentioned them in your original post.

Yes with adapter. Canon has a VND adapter that I would go for if I had EF lenses.

https://www.canonnews.com/public-outcry-too-much-video-in-the-canon-eos-r5 The "stills only" guys aren't having it with the R5 but they actually have to. Not sure what they expected of the R5 when the rumor sites were pretty accurate with the specs leading all the way up to the development announcement and press conference. The leaked info was pretty video centric from the beginning. While 8k wasn't at all necessary, after the R and RP, I feel Canon had no choice but to come with heavy specs in the middle. Stills guys dont want to pay for video features. If I buy, I'll gladly pay for the hybrid.

Yes, I agree. A good number of those "photographers" will still buy especially if they have already invested in the system ( lenses ). Most of them seemed irritated ( basically pouting ) that Canon's focus during the announcement was video specific. As for video shooters, Im not so sure those that left would comeback for the R5, if the cost is over 500.00 more than the S1H. A few of the video shooters here are waiting to hear what the R6 brings. Over heating, record time limitations may still be the thing that keeps competition in the game. Never said former Canon users left because of cost. It's well known that most left because Canon fell behind spec wise. My mention of cost is that I believe Canon wants to sell RF lenses as well. Many R users are still using adapters with EF lenses and have not ran out and invested in RF glass yet. Pricing here is an important piece of this.

I was shocked to see so many in the R groups sour about it... not sure how but I guess all the video specs made them feel forgotten. People will always complain about anything.

Not so sure... photographers are all over Facebook expressing feelings of being left out with the video-centric spec's being promoted so heavily first. Photography wise there are other options to consider at any price point. You go too high, and you lose the crowd who are already happy with the glass they own. To convert buyers onto RF lenses that are pretty expensive in comparison to EF versions, you'd have to consider that it would cost over 10K once you were to add a lens kit to the 4999 that you estimate. That cost opens buyers up-to many options, especially if you're talking body only. 5D price's make more sense, and that would bring more shooters back to Canon. I have the R and the RF trinity set, but if the R wouldn't have hit huge discounts on sale I cant say that I would have invested in the R.

The recent rumor posted by CanonRumors states that it will be an RF mount XC10 style body. https://www.canonrumors.com/rf-mount-cinema-camera-in-the-works-cr2/

It seems plausible.🤣

They printed it. https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/explore/product-showcases/cameras-and-lenses/eos-r5

I'd think Canon would want it out as soon as possible. RF glass sales are dependent upon of sales of R series cameras and with couple RF models in the pipeline, I'd think summer release as long as COVID-19 allows it. Also Canon Rumors is saying Canon supposedly has plans for an RF mount cinema camera .

hadnt seen any S1H samples with the FD's but heres a S1 video with Canon FD 55mm f/1.2 Canon FD 85mm f/1.8, and Angenieux 28-70 f/2.6 Angenieux 70-210 f/3.5.

https://global.canon/en/news/2020/20200213.html

They said they tried for the s1h but didnt have a S1H available at the time of the test.

I agree, they seem very aware of the current market, and plan to act accordingly. Going too high on price would just shoot them in the foot just like a crazy crop factor would at this point, competition wise. I think 3599 to 3999 body only would be my guess. ( maybe a little more ) but they know these new bodies will drive the purchase of their new RF lenses further which is a win win for them.

Didn't you read the IR exclusive... Mizoguchi is on record saying Canon does not cripple their cameras, it's just limitations of their cameras. 😂

Especially when the direct model class competition is already offering 10bit.

Thanks, good character sounds nice. The only footage I’ve seen is the C5d first impression video. Been interested in what you’ve done with it.

Andrew, what are your thoughts on the SL2 in low light? Any footage or clips you could share, or even post up for download? Haven't seen too many samples from it besides cinema5d's.

agreed, but... ?‍♂️