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Is the kinemon port a proprietary port for their kinemon monitor? Also, I'm assuming the hd port type A is hdmi. Trying to figure out if I need the kineback.

Yeah I was out of the loop with gear for a while focusing on writing and getting projects setup, so I'm just learning about what is going on these days. I shot my last feature on the first red one in Korea so missed the whole indie dslr movement but before then I made shorts on film and min-dv camcorders. So these days I was getting back into the tech side of things and was getting into the modern look of these cameras like the samsung and sony, the hyper-realism. I'm flirting with the idea of doing a production with the aesthetic of these mirrorless cameras and shooting some of it on auto-focus and not grading it to emulate film, but maintaining the aesthetics of these cameras instead of trying to resist it and conforming to past ideas of what is acceptable in narrative filmmaking. I would like to pare down the production by not seeing this current tech as limitations but a way to keep things light and moving. But these kinefinity images remind me why it's important to have certain baselines for images in storytelling. Like you say, the gentleness of how it deals with color and light will help the viewer enter the emotional world of the characters. Style definitely has its place but for me conveying emotions is key and it's so hard to be able to do that that you need all the help you can get.

These images look like they would be good for narrative work. They seem to make it easy to empathize with the subjects for some reason. Maybe it has to do with the 'organic' look others have mentioned. I'm considering the 5k terra for a feature film to be shot in Seoul instead of renting a red package. I hope some images start dropping soon.

poster took down the video and reposted for some reason. here's the new upload: Also, this is from kinemini 4k, looks nice:

Not terra but new review on 6k kinemax

Yeah I'm in Seoul so it's difficult to pick up used video equipment because of return policies incurring even more shipping and customs charges. I need to either buy what local distributors here are selling or usually get something new and hope that it doesn't have a glitch. I've gotten burned too many times buying used items and having to return it with the policy that I have to pay for the shipping costs as well as new custom charges to get the replacement. We need more resellers in S Korea. There's so much production going on here, I don't know why companies like aputure and cametv don't come in stronger.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/111981584325? Just under $500. I was looking at the ms1 or pilotfly before. This would be my first gimbal and this looks pretty smooth. What do you guys think?

Yeah, I notice horizontal banding that almost looks static on a lot of different interior light types in my apartment. The only shutter speed that it seems to disappear is 40. It appears at 30 and anything above 40. With fluorescents, the banding is worse and moving up also only disappears at 40. This is with UHD 23.98 pro setting. I'm in Korea by the way if the AC makes a difference. I rented another NX1 and got similar results.

Thanks for the write up. I been thinking about picking up a few of these. Are they decent for indoor narrative work working with actors (like in apartments)?

Even though Samsung and its subsidiaries are 'publicly traded' companies, family members own most of them through other 'companies.' Deals are being made between family members after the former chairman became ill. Parts are being sold off for tax reasons and also for some members to cash out while main divisions are being consolidated under the son who is running Samsung group now. This is pretty common knowledge in Korea, and the camera division is most likely a casualty of intra-family politics. The son is focusing on what will be the core of Samsung while other family members pick up the scraps. The former chairman getting out of the picture is a huge upheaval in Samsung. I can't say this is one hundred percent what happened to nx1 but probably most likely scenario. EDIT: Yeah, let's not derail this thread :|

Lee Kun-hee, former chairman of Samsung group, has been very ill for a long time, some speculate that he's already gone. His children are consolidating their main brands and shuttering many subsidiaries for tax reasons. Korean owners of conglomerates create many complex subsidiaries to protect themselves from taxes. Besides their core profit streams like semiconductors and smartphones, a lot of their satellite companies and tech are being sold off or restructured. All this is happening because the family members of Samsung are divying up the company right now.

In case anyone else is working with projects syncing sound with 23.98, I spoke with Adobe tech and they said this was a bug that will be addressed in the next update. To view this footage correctly in the project window and source monitor, modify the clips in timecode tab under Time Display Format to 23.976 fps Timecode.

I'm shooting UHD 23.98 on the NX1 and when I'm importing it into Premiere Pro I'm seeing some strange behavior. Premiere in the source window recognizes it as 23.98 in the 'frame rate' column but in the column for 'media end' there is up to 29 frames (00;00;20;29), so when I play the clips in the source monitor, it skips every fifth frame. When I create a sequence with the clip settings, it creates it with a 10 fps timebase for some reason. When I import footage shot in 24fps or 30fps, Premiere seems to interpret it fine. I know there is no timecode being recorded internally (I'm using a new sandisk extreme pro uhs-I 95MB/s), but I would like to work on this project in 23.98. If this is only possible with an external recorder like Shogun then why are these dropped frame rates available in the menu? The what is the camera recording differently between 23.98 and 24? I'm concerned that if I create a custom sequence with 23.976 as the timebase, Premiere will alter the footage by dropping frames. Does anyone have any experience or knowledge with this issue between NX1 and Premiere Pro? Thanks!

Did not know that. Man that clears up a lot of things in my head as far as what's feasible with my budget. And thanks for the offer for more advice, I'm sure I'll take you up on it.

Cool. That's good to know. This is my first pc, I've always used a mac so I wasn't confident about the build. Yeah, I heard Speedgrade was not great for HEVC yet but I don't know if it's worth it for me to spend a grand on resolve for 4K. Thanks for the info, appreciate it.

I'm about to get a graphics card for h.265 editing in premiere but it seems like premiere doesn't take advantage of gtx 960 h.265 decoder? Is this right? Should I just get the gtx 970 then (with skylake)? I'm also thinking about a 1440 monitor. Anybody know if this will play smoothly with 32g of memory?

http://shopping.naver.com/detail/detail.nhn?nv_mid=7428165574&cat_id=50004604&frm=NVSCPRO&query=%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%EC%82%BC%EC%84%B1+16-50mm+2.0 1,045,000 won = ~$900 Although a lot of these sites have the nx1 body listed for sale but when I called they said they were sold out. The used nx1 + lens market in Korea is pretty active. Nx1 value packs (nx1+16-50mm os+battery grip+extra battery) are always up for sale around $1600.

I had two nx1's last week and with the same settings one camera had much more severe green horizontal banding with fluorescent lights. I returned the camera. It had the banding to a less degree with krypto lights as well. The other nx1 was only showing slight banding on very high shutter speeds.

What type of LED cause a strobe in the nx1? I can't find anything about this. Can you go into more specifics? I'm about to buy some lights for interior shooting.

Is it the grading on Sony that's popular these days, but why does everybody look like zombies on Sony footage? As someone who shoots people primarily I just can't get over how lifeless people look on some of sony's prosumer cameras.

I'm hoping for 422 or 444 too. I wouldn't even care being abandoned...

They say the same thing for using Shogun with Gh4 and a7s. Huge unwieldy files and no discernible improvement in the image. Besides the monitoring benefits it doesn't seem like they really make the image thicker for grading. Seems like a huge price to pay to discover this.

+1 Yeah, I'd be curious as to what people are talking about on either side of the fence. Stuff I've seen online looks nice, but I'm not overly critical, so examples would be cool to learn a thing or two. Otherwise, talk is cheap!

Not at all, didn't mean for it to come across that way. The more people get involved the better our chances.