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Ok, from better to worse, which ones do you recommend?

Hey androidlad, for under $1K, which TV would you recommend to use for grading?, not professional of course, but something that can be close enough....if that option exist of course, more than one option will be great...

EOS R 4k = Rolls-Royce The most trusted machine out there, you can go to the Sahara and feel confidence is never going to fail.....and if that happen by a miracle.....yeap, the support is on his way to the rescue....

Any news about DPAF activation in 4k or 6k?, is it possible?

Anyway....whatever you said.....she is going to use the NEW camera the first three days.....then just use her phone...which is always in her pocket.....camera are too bulky for vacations....

I agree, she probably get used to just use her phone, specially since it is not going to take any more room from her handbag...

Oh my Gosh...there are already 12 supporters.....if I use something like that for run and gun I will be on court almost every week.....not a gun machinne officer, the ultimate futuristic gimbal.....after FRAN 8K I should be inmune to scams.....but this creative for useless crap really amazed me.....

I don't think anybody did a pre-order, this shit was clearly a scam from day 1....

Probably NASA astronauts are lazy and never read the spects sheet, only looked the final image and choose what they think is the best image for them, really stupid people.....how can they shoose image perception over spects sheet?

I am also looking for the same, EOS R is the best for now, but too expensive for my wallet, so a new m50 in the short time, or a drop in EOS R price....

Wow, so the the guys who are nominated to the Oscars are just snobs who doesn`t know anything about the right equipment to make their productions to shine over the crow?, then, where are the EXPERTS who are using sony, panasonic, etc....? , why their productions are not nominated to the Oscars?, is it a Canon conspiration?, I have hear non senses before, but this one really SHINE OVER THE CROW!!!!

Just change one zoom from S35 to FF and you are done, I am also using a C100 but I keep some FF glases, EOS R for now is the best choice for a B cam, the issue is the price, too expensive for me also, probably will go down with the new RP....I hope so

What was this thread about?......ahhh yeahhhh...Canon screw me up with DPAF is EOS R(I)P!!!

CRAP!!!!!! that`s my breaking point....too sad, now EOS R is my only option, I hope this new model at least push the price down.....

is it confirmed no DPAF for 4K in Canon RP?

Then use the same here, if the camera has not enough weight just add a cage, if the problem is that you prefer another brand than Canon just go for that brand....this camera is going to be gold in the right hands...

There are so many gimbals out there that can support a camera of this size and weight, IBIS can be easily replaced, really not an issue at all, canon colors, 4k, S35 crop, DPAF and all for 1,600 bucks...this is the wining combo, if real it is going to be my new doc camera.....hope next tomorrow is confirmed.....thanks daddy Canon!!! I think crop is pretty much confirmed to be S35, but I am afraid no DPAF in 4K is the threat, that is certainly a breaking point to me, lets wait and see, if DPAF is included daddy Canon is going to sell this camera as hotcakes...

DBounce, very interesting your conclusions, this kind of profesional work is what I am always looking here, if the R is more cinematic than the C200 that´s only good news for me, what about comparing the R with the C100/C300, how much cinematic is it?, I am using a C100 and very happy with the cinematic image for now...

If you already have good glass for the Canon R then I think your choice is done, changing system and later probably have to come back is the worst option, also remember, depreciation of Canon cameras is really marginal, you still can see the 5D mark iii around 1,200 - 1,500 USD, which is incredible, also if ML crack together with Andrew the Canon R, you instantly get a more powerfull camera at $0 cost....

Great news Mattias!!!....hope sooner than later you can share some footage, ideally graded, so the noobs can really understand what this tool can do in the hands of an expert....

hahaha....another noob that think Cinematic means hard digital sharpness..... Just copying here the answer Andrew provided in other topic which apply 100% to you: ------------------------------------------- Pixel peeping is alive and well I see! Nikon Z7 is fine. It is a miracle in full frame from 8.2K down to 4K. Very nice detail level. Very good dynamic range and colour, which Max's test doesn't even touch on. Z7 in APS-C is similar but less aliasing / stair stepping - but we are talking 4K here, so at normal viewing distances you don't even see the aliasing in full frame mode, let alone in the oversampled Super 35 mode. The EOS R is soft. So what. It's 4K. You have more detail than you'll ever need unless cropping 4x into the image. You wanna know why I don't do tests like this very much anymore? 1. Nobody views your film or music video at 400% crop. The absolute sharpness level in 4K means JACK SHIT. What you want is a soft stable cinematic image - not hard digital sharpness. In fact it's an *advantage* to have a softer image for YouTube, when the player is scaling it down to fit any number of screen resolutions - especially a 1080p screen. It looks more natural when people view it downscaled or even on a 4K TV from normal viewing distances. In the first case the downscaling works badly with a digitally sharper, harder image vs a softer, more cinematic one. In the second case the natural downscaling from the human eye at a longer viewing distance makes a less hard 4K image at 1:1 look more natural and less fatiguing than a "harder" image which shows more emphasised detail. We have plenty enough detail in 4K as it is, even on the EOS R and to overemphasise it, like in Max's video, is a BAD THING. 2. The test by Max claims to be about image quality when he's only testing one small aspect of it and not even very well. He's actually looking 90% at the sharpening levels in the menus, rather than outright performance of the image. All the cameras apply a different level of sharpening to bring out extra detail. You can dial it down or up. So what? How natural and cinematic does that fine detail look to the real viewer? That is the real question. 3. Max's video tests just one aspect of the camera and seems to imply it's 90% of what makes a good image. A wide shot of a building with constantly shifting light at dusk so that not even the lighting conditions are matched on each comparison shot. It says nothing of colour, dynamic range, skin-tones, lenses, sensor size, rolling shutter, motion cadence, codec performance, macro blocking, mud, compression, grading, bit-depth, LOG profile performance and how easy or not it is to grade. These are the things that determine the final result. These are the important things and not ONE in isolation but ALL together. Go back and do a proper test Max that takes you longer than half an hour... But no, he's got subscriber numbers and viewers to chase so it must be done quick! First check very carefully the redish.... added from the X-T3 specially in skin tones, and see if that is acceptable for your footage. I know the feeling, the Canon R is the camera I want but the price is really too much....it's a hard choice!!!

Am I the only one who notice the redish color added in Fuji and Nikon cameras?.....for me that´s terrible, footage imposible to use, I stay with Canon, pocket 4K also looked good....

Is it only me or the footage from the SteadXP+ looks terrible soft?

Indeep this is really disapointing, a break deal for me, I hope a firmware upgrade will solve this issue in the short term.....

I will choose the X-T3 only for better AF, if you are doing it manually I think both cameras are very similar, but X-T3 has a S35 crop so is still the winner to my eyes....