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Another thing they may do is 4K without ALL-I codec & no C-log / 10bit out. DPAF really should remain. It's Canons crown jewel..

I know its Canon but it does sound rather goofy to release a non 4K mirrorless in 2019. Especially considering the $600 M50 does 4K. Yeah 4K with no DPAF sounds like a Canon thing they would do!

That's the million dollar question, will Canon go the lazy route and just spit out a repackaged 6D2 (most likely scenario) or will they surprise us with that rumored 1.5x 4K crop and C-Log ?

Here it is.. 26.2 Million Pixels Full Size Sensor Dual pixel CMOS AF DIGIC 8 Continuous shooting performance: 5 frames / sec ISO sensitivity: 100 to 40000 (equivalent to extended ISO: 50, 51200, 102400) Organic EL EVF 3.0 type touch panel variable angle liquid crystal Dual Sensing IS DLO in camera, RAW development in camera, C-RAW compatible Size: 132.5 x 85.0 x 70.0 mm Weight: Approximately 440 g (body only), about 485 g (including batteries?) Kit lens: RF 24 – 105 mm F 4 L IS USM

Watch the video above. They share the same sensor but everything else is pretty much improved. Also keep in mind Canon will be announcing the EOS RP next week. If the latest rumors are true, brand new 24MP sensor and video specs might even be better than EOS R.. for $1300.

Deter me probably not.. but again i've definitely noticed some differences in loudness, speed & smoothness of the AF especially with fast USM glass (F1.2/1.4). The difference becomes more important when shooting stills imo, as all the AF points on EOS R are horizontal line type and not line & cross types like on DSLRs. (same on Z6/Z7 btw). in certain low contrast situations, it can become a real problem and i already got the AF fail red box on EOS R while my 5D nailed the shot instantaneously. this is why for me at this point mirrorless isn't yet on par with DSLRs in the most demanding of situations.. a few? i've only heard of that 18-135mm & a 70-300mm EF. personally, I'm excited about the upcoming 5 new L series Nano-USM RF lenses to add to the 3 current ones.

It isn't really that simple. Canon uses two types of lens motors STM & USM. On legacy EF glass, STM will give smoother & more silent AF results for video. With RF USM they use a new nano-USM tech that gives STM like smooth & silent video AF performance. Now from my legacy glass adapted on EOS R experience, USM EF glass is louder & a bit less responsive than on a Canon DSLR. (YMMV depending on lens). STM EF is about the same.

Yeah but the R uses a 2.5 year old 30MP sensor. Yeah sorry I meant out of the big sensor cameras (Super35 and above). Its worthy to note though that I’ve never heard a viewer complain about RS. It’s only to us camera nerds / content creators that it gets talked about..

RS on EOS R is poor in 4K. That said if you’re shooting car chases or fight scenes RS will be an issue on most cameras (even pro cine cams unless you’re shooting an Alexa or GS camera). I often notice RS skewing in big budget TV/Hollywood productions (just the other night watching The Sinner on a bridge shot). RED even has an article on it: https://support.red.com/hc/en-us/articles/236069387-8K-Sensors-and-Rolling-Shutter-Skew-Effects They also suggest reducing the resolution to counter the issue. I do this all the time on EOS R, mainly to get FF shots (you can easily switch from FHD to 4K with custom movie settings) but also to combat RS. I just know when I’m in 4K to slow down camera movements. It’s far from ideal, it’s clearly a workaround the 4K crop & RS. Hopefully EOS RP’s 24MP sensor will have similar or better RS performance to other 24MP cameras (A7III/Z6) as it probably won’t supersample.

Just saw the new RF lenses.. expensive but impressive, especially these 3: RF 15-35mm F2.8 IS (finally a wide angle zoom with IS) then look at this bad boy: RF 70-200 F2.8 IS RF85mm F1.2 So basically state of the art top notch pro lenses & a very affordable body entry to the system. Kinda makes sense. This makes me think we’ll be seeing the pro RX body & RF cine cam sooner than later too..

$1300 for a FF stills & Super35 4K video cam with CLog & DPAF sounds like a pretty sweet deal if true. That totally undercuts the FF competition, and even XT3 on price alone. Seems very unlike Canon to me, but maybe EOS R / RF lenses aren’t selling enough and with their recent expectation of the market shrinking substantially they’ve decided to get super aggressive in attempt to get max people on board their new system ?

Listen, I'm a happy Canon user, so yes you will find me generally speaking positively about products I own in Canon related threads. The difference is I don't go into other brand threads I don't own (and have zero intention of owning) to troll & toot my own horn..

That may be your own personal conclusion, but many photographers & videographers would obviously disagree. Body specs aren't everything. Albeit certain limitations, as a complete ecosystem, Canon have imo the most appealing lineup (for my type of work) that give great results with minimum fuss. Again more & more single operators. Current trend is also 'body per lens' type of shoot. 2 or 3 bodies and a bag of lenses. A perfect setup for that is a C100/200 as A-cam, 5D4/1DX2 as a B-cam & EOS R as a C-cam (on gimbal, motorized slider). I would only trust Canon with their DPAF for that type of shoot:

I am not looking at it in "Canon-land" simply observing with my own eyes the professional scene in my location, Paris France, which visibly differs much from your own local observations (which I am not disputing btw). That said, living and working in the number one fashion capital of the world, I think I do know a bit about that scene. So to hear " mILC have a bigger share there, for sure " is rather a surprise. From celebrity model studio shoots to fashion editorials, to the runway or even street bloggers during Fashion week... I'd say it's 95% CaNikon. And 80% of that 1DX2/5D3/5D4. Battery life, weather sealing, FPS, balance with telephoto lenses, portrait orientation control. Flagship DSLR still own that market. Canon edges it off with skintone CS. For video, I think it also depends. TV/Broadcast isn't the only market. We're shifting more & more towards digital content by one man bands. In the rental houses I visit, i see just as much Canon gear getting rented out then Sony. I also know showrunners that swear only by RED/ARRI. YMMV.

sports photography, wedding photography, fashion etc.. they basically dominate all pro photography where DSLR still reigns supreme. and in couple years when DSLR dies out, their MILC bodies will have fully caught up and have a solid RF lens lineup pro photogs will still gush over. For cine cams, DPAF on the C line simply has no competition and therefore is still the preferred solution for many run & gun, docu, events, corporate shooters. For broadcast, C300II is still a top choice with 12-bit 444 internal 2K, but sure Sony took some shares with FS7 & cheaper e-mount lens options. As for the future, Canon intends on paving the way for 8K in their upcoming C line refresh in time for Tokyo 2020, so i wouldn't bury them at all yet.

Riiiight, because your comment doesn't come off at all like Sony fanboyism. You might have had a case if you were using an A9 series (rest aren't even weather sealed). But the A6300... better than Canon.. for sports really? Cmon. The joke of the LCD rear display with less than 1M px (not even half of EOS R's resolution) requires that monitor on top. Lack of ergonomics means you need that side handle. That camera has worst RS than EOS R (more than double in FHD), overheats after like 15mn, AF nowhere near DPAF, no touchscreen, no IBIS/IS, weak battery life etc.. Yeah what a pro solution over Canon that camera is ? Better not rain during the game.. meanwhile Super Bowl last year: RIP CANON ?

EF-S is not Canon's Super35 4K ready professional lens lineup, this is: PROFESSIONAL VIDEO SOLUTIONS | CINEMA LENSES Very expensive for the most part but you can always rent. There are also many EF Super35 cine lens options from the top third-parties (Zeiss, Xeen etc) . Sony E-mount also have a good range of pro cine native & third party lenses. Fuji's X-mount only has two MK pro cine zoom lenses. The regular photo lenses aren't that great for video imo (pulling focus manually isn't easy). It would be nice of course if they did develop a cine cam and added some fast cine primes to MK series.

The way I see EOS R is a great 30MP FF stills & FF FHD camera with a cropped 4K mode. I rarely shoot 4K handheld on any camera so it’s mono/tripod/gimbal for 4K which tend to minimize RS. Unless you need ultra wide angles something like the Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 works great for standard needs in 4K. Then my 50mm primes turn into 85’s..etc Not trying to make any excuses for Canon, I’d love no crop / good RS in 4K but I guess you just learn to workaround issues.. while we await the higher end model! I do understand though why other system users wouldn’t fathom switching given the limitations. The battery life is pretty good though, close to DSLR. With the grip and 2 batteries fitted I haven’t run into any problems even on full day shoot.

Well like I said YMMV lol.. I’m still choosing to stick with them as a complete eco-system (DSLR/Mirroless/Cine cam/Lenses) they are kinda still the only game in town. For video, the cine camera options are what guide me for A-cams and the C100/200/300II are still by far my favorite under $10K cameras.

Well people can whine, hate, cry, scratch their heads all they want at Canon, they remain the number one camera company in the world so they must be doing a thing or two right! Other than brand recognition, color science, DPAF, UI etc.. they entice users through their lens system and there are plenty of people that still want access to that L series and probably soon the evolution which is RF. Canons objective is to sell their lenses (which are also the most sold in the world) and so indeed a lower end model is a quick priority after putting out the mid-range model.. With that perspective, I don’t really see what the big fuss is about: Canon are putting out a lower end model follow-up. The higher-end model could be the ticket though, rumors are saying SD+CFast & joystick return.. so an improved FF 4K60p 1DX2 with C-log, 10-bit & no crop could be that no compromise Canon camera videographers have been waiting for. Start saving though

Indeed EOS R IQ is what keeps me happy, Canon still provide the most robust FF internal codec and DPAF is still king of the hill. Z6 can’t even do internal log and when you go external the AF goes haywire so that’s a major fail IMO. A73? Solid specs but painful shooting experience & post can be a PITA. GH5S? Wack AF. Poor choice for stills. P4K: No AF. No stills. XT3. Now that’s a dope camera. Better hope not to get a lemon though. YMMV of course and I’m probably biased. Anyways maybe I’m wrong about the “RP”. Really isn’t much info on it yet. Canon could surprise us in a desperate attempt to regain some shares in the video market.

Hey don’t shoot the messenger! I’m just telling you what I believe is the most likely scenario from Canon, not what I’d personally want. If you are looking for something better than EOS R then quite obviously IMO you gotta wait.. for the higher end model.

Wait & see, unless I missed something all the rumors said was 26MP & no touchbar. But Canon isn’t silly, they know how to segment and are not going to give a lower end model better (video) specs than the R. The 26MP is probably the same 26MP sensor as in the 6D2 (just like the 30MP on the R echoes the 5DIV). So what does this indicate? Probably no 4K! Or maybe 4K with no DPAF (a la M50) Other possible limitations could be: No touchbar, no flip-out screen, no top LCD, no C-Log, no ALL-I codec, no 10-bit out, less AF points, less DR.. etc Again I highly doubt the RP will have anything better for video than the R. Canon are just applying the same formula & release strategy than their 6D, 5D, 1DX2 FF models imo: mid market first, then lower end, then pro. Plenty to hate about Canon but nobody is going to end up crying.. you guys sure like to jump the gun!

I'm super happy with the RodeLink Filmmaker kit. Great sound quality, has never failed me. Like that you can have standard spare batteries. This Senny kit is very interesting though for sure as it's tiny and can be switched to XLR and can be setup as a wireless interview mic or even wireless boom mic! Pretty amazing stuff..