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this is pretty insane.. 3 minutes of raw 3K on the 5D3.. OMG .. so how can i try this on my 5D3? or is it still in beta for advanced users?

sounds like this is just about making raw more stable, compatible with slower cards & eventually higher fps.. which is great.. but i dunno where y'all got 2.5K/5DIV etc excited about?

dear god i forgot about that.. a crop..on a crop.. D500 is a total no-go for me.. i do really like the pro body though (unlike D750). i really hope the next Nikon FF body will do 4K without crop. again seems only Sony is doing it currently..

may be a "small minor mental readjustment" to you but it certainly isn't for me. I don't like my 35mm 1.4 becoming a 52mm.. that means quite a few steps back which isn't always possible in confine spots or certain run & gun situations. And i like working with primes, certainly wouldn't ditch my Nikkor glass for a Tokina zoom.. What I do like is punching in using the FX/DX modes, and this will be even more useful on FF 4K resolution..

Reading the actual DPreview interview.. I feel OP may have focused on the negative. The last bit being: 'I think that line between movie photographer and stills photographers has gone. The client wants to you to shoot the both of them at the same time to reduce the costs.' Kitaoka then expanded on the demands they're hearing from customers: 'First of all, quality of the movie is a basic demand so we have to answer that, second frame rate, then lens quality and autofocus, also, [the challenges of] movie AF and still AF totally different.' 'Movie autofocus needs to be smooth, sometimes fast, sometimes slower, depends on the situation. Movie shooters want to [be able to] choose high speed autofocus or natural speed autofocus.' 'Actually we equip the autofocus system fit for the movie but a lot of people [are finding it difficult to use] autofocus between still photo and movie. But we keep trying to [provide the] best movie autofocus in [our] DSLRs and across every single category.’ https://***URL removed***/interviews/6091205488/nikon-interview-photokina-2016 Sounds to me like next generation bodies will have much improved video AF enhancement, +60 FPS, 4K possibly 10-bit / 422 / better codec (IQ seems to come first).. I see this as Nikon is listening and will provide very interesting video solutions on their upcoming DSLRs..

^ No i like my camera bodies FF (i'm also a photographer with bunch of FX lens). Btw love how you can easily switch from FX to DX on D750..

Great article.. and amazing film project. People gotta understand the film budget is peanuts compared to the rest of the mission.. A couple lost cameras/lenses is no big deal whatsoever in the grand scheme of things.. Also what an advertising for Canon lol... their cameras were chosen to go outer space because of: A. simpler menu systems then Sony/Phantom B. less bulky then Arri C. their gear is NASA certified D. test audience chose Canon colors over RED !

right i've seen you link that a couple times here.. it was Andrew though that initially got me to seriously consider the D750 with this blog entry: http://www.eoshd.com/2014/09/nikon-d750-review-initial-thoughts-real-world-footage-ladies-gentleman-contender/ I've since shot a few docus, including one that was screened at Le Louvre and got me a standing ovation by some pretty prominent art critics.. I switched to Canon a couple months ago and although the C100 is nothing but joy, 5D3 pre ML RAW was a giant step back for me from D750. And even with ML RAW.. I must admit I do really miss the D750. Something about that sensor & the colour science. Everybody always raves about Canon.. but Nikon perhaps fits my aesthetic even better.. I am going to need to upgrade to 4K body/system in 2017. As of right now, only Sony fits the bill.. but here is to hoping for a 4K D760. All that's missing aside 4k is dual pixel type phase AF, peaking and indeed maybe a super flat Nikon Log profile to kill 5D4/A7S/R2. I feel like we may get at least half that extra.. Nikon may claim to not want to alienate their still photogs, but in reality they are paying close attention to the competition (especially Canon) and I believe will try and trump them feature wise, which includes video. Finally lets' not forget they did put out the Filmmaker kit in partnership with Atomos, so they definitely got videographers on their radar - at least with the D7xx line:

I dunno what exactly you guys seem to complain about. The Nikon D750 introduced in 2014 is a FF camera with zebras, 60FPS, tilting screen and a Flat profile. May not be as good as Sony, but is a hell lot better then what Canon is offering, and Nikon doesn't even have a dedicated pro video department..

..well i have actually used the 5DIV.. and 4K MJPEG crashed my computer a few times.. now my computer isn't the fastest i'll admit but i've had zero problems handling 5D Raw.. so for me 4K MJPEG was cumbersome.. YMMV..

i can transcode to RAW DNG very quickly with Raw Magic and then benefit from full uncompressed WB, exposure etc control in Resolve.. although the resolution is less then 4K i find the flexibility and overall IQ/look to be way above what 4K MJPEG gives.

keep in mind lens preference is a personal subjective thing.. depends on what qualities you are looking for.. also results may vary depending on body. 1.4G was a good match to the D750s FF sensor.. if you're on older crop, maybe another (DX/D/AIS) lens may provide same/better results..

looks only a tiny bit sharper.. personally can't stand how soft 5DIII 1080p is anymore.. fortunately shooting RAW changes all that. but i would certainly not get a 5D4 / 1DX II for good 1080p IQ and their MJPEG cropped 4K is so cumbersome. Really if you wanna stick with Canon, either 5D3 Raw or C line for best 1080p IQ.. or go Sony with Metabones EF to E-mount adapter..

I used to get excellent results with the current 50mm 1.4G on a D750 shooting flat before switching to Canon. shot weddings, docus. great look overall. all my other nikkor primes are vintage AIS though as i'm not a fan of the 1.8G series and having lens aperture control is so nice.. as for the original topic, there are much flatter picture profiles available for nikon bodies out there. nikon flat really isn't that flat but it's so easy to grade..

Well i just did my first low ISO RAW test outdoors... and the IQ actually got me giggling out loud.. I cannot believe the 1080p image i'm getting!! I don't think I can ever go back to 5D3's h264 and be satisfied with IQ the difference is so radical.. it's like 128kbs mp3 on a smartphone VS 24-bit / 96K wave on Genelec monitors.. Another thing that has me smiling is the IQ/Workflow flat out beats that of 4K MJPEG on the 5D4 i tested 2 weeks ago .. FCPX kept crashing and output had bad RS.. But I'm also shooting 1080 25fps.. I sure hope i'll be able to get more then 20 seconds after I upgrade CF cards or I will not be such a happy camper!

well according to Andrew, KB cards are simply rebranded Lexar cards that failed QC test! http://www.eoshd.com/2013/05/which-compact-flash-cards-for-5d-mark-iii-raw-video/ so if you're having trouble with Lexar.. i certainly wouldn't play russian roulette with a KB.. "When buying a KomputerBay card, some capacities will likely have greater variance than others." [...] "if you get a card that was missed in the QC variance then return and get a different one." Sounds like a major PITA to me, just to save a couple bucks..

^ Thanks but what about this comment: Is this accurate, only 20 seconds MLV + Audio? Take away the audio.. and you get how much raw shooting time?

Ok I'm up and running as well... and well... OMG ... it's like I have a new camera.. mind blown.. the output compares if not surpasses BM cams I've shot with.. the IQ.. the motion... recovery/grading.. i mean this is FF at it's best.. 5D3 just went from B cam to my C100.. to A+++ cam... Even the workflow I was dreading is actually a walk in the park thanks to Raw Magic! MLVs straight from the CF to DNG.. into Resolve and that's it!!! A million thanks to OP & EOSHD community for waking me up to this (i get a MEGA late pass i know.. but better late then never!!) Now I am running into a big issue.. the recording cuts after 15 seconds due to drop frame warning.. but I'm sure this has to do with my too slow Sandisk Extreme CF (85 mb/s write speed) so should I just get Extreme Pro (140 mb/s)? Or is Transcend 1000X 16GB the way to go? Also while shooting raw.. the video assist features disappear.. that normal or can i have overlays?

Oh cool, so the lock out was in post 1.2.3 firmware (i just checked i'm on 1.3.3)? so i might be able to have a go at ML, excellent! FWIW i got the 5D3 primarily for stills, and as a B-cam to my C100. Again, main interest of ML for me are those video assist features..

I'd love to give ML a try (more for the video assist features then cumbersome RAW workflow) but I'm assuming my recently purchased 5D3 is locked..? Anyone here know a way to find out (serial number count?) Also heard some terrible stories of cameras getting bricked during setup...

Of course it would be a fixed electronic ND, not mechanical. I think one stop hit would be a perfectly acceptable trade-off. A7S2 despite it's consumer-ish body is a speciality cam, especially at it's price point. Nobody is buying this camera primarily for stills ($3K for 12MP?!). Also keep in mind A7S has outstanding ISO performance (will be even better on S3). Again you'd hardly feel a one stop loss. An ND is also absolutely essential on a A7S shooting exteriors with S-Log2/3 as the base ISO is very high. The auto-variable electronic ND on the FS5 is quite amazing too, game changing I would dare say (like dual pixel for AF). I would not be surprised Sony use that tech on another video centric cam. That alone with touch AF would make a lot of people upgrade I believe..

electronic NDs like on the FS5 is plausible and doable on a A7S series considering it's the video specific camera.. but other things in that spec list don't sound quite correct/logical so i'm going to call fake as well.. what really needs to be addressed imo is much better AF (hopefully touch AF from the 6500) and hopefully no crop easy quick & slow function.

The A6500 uses the same body as the ($500) A6000. They keep boosting the specs but no change in body (hence perhaps the overheating, tiny body wasn't designed for so much power - as the A7RII)

if rolling shutter is vastly improved and no overheat issues then this looks like a killer Super35 shooter, although size/ergonomics still too small for my taste.. hoping for new FF e-mount announcement next (A7III/A9) with touch AF etc..

clickless aperture control wheel.. probably one of the coolest features that'll hopefully trickle onto the A9 etc..