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I bought a Canon EOS R5 - potential overheating solutions
gt3rs replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
slashcam has tested RS and 8k, 4kHQ is 16ms!!!...... boy they have created what would be the perfect hybrid but nobody can use for video because the recovery times are just insane. Either is software crippled or it has a big HW flaw.... if the first let's hope they remove/fix if the second why they don't sell a version in a bigger body with a Fan?!? 8k 30 RAW, 4k oversampled from 8k 10bit with 16ms RS and AF and nobody can take advantage..... what a waste. Problem is that is a very good photo camera (best canon ever) so even if they do nothing they will sell a ton.... -
bye bye and by the way I eard that canon is contacting you as you suggested for point 2 of your article as advisor on the next camera and alto build a 7nm cpu fab for them and for intel view that they are late...... you have some serious problem with anybody that do not share your opinion and you are wondering why nobody in the camera industry wants to discuss with you.... please delete my account. thx
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I’m the first disappointed but the choices probably were: 1 do an amazing photo camera with 4k 30 binned/line skipped 2 do an amazing photo camera with 4k 30 binned/line skipped + limited but super high quality modes 3 do an amazing photo camera with unlimited super quality modes is a bigger body with a fan ala sh1 Now what is the no 1 competitor camera in the R5 segment for canon? A7R IV so any business man would pick 1 or 2 with 2 making it more attractive spec wise..... even we 50 cry babies in this forum will not be happy and call the ultimate demise of canon.... go read some photo forums I never saw so much exitemnt for a canon camera in the last 10 years by people that they got the camera Wanna bet that R5 will sell more than the 5d iii + 5d iv combined?
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according to nfs test is not after 1500 pictures thy got almost 20min of 8k..... On the photo side of the world only 1 guy managed to get the overheated sign and was using an old 90d battery and with really no details on the occurrence nobody else has reported an issue with photo mode with people went through 2 batteries and 3000+ photos at 20fps... at least so far....
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why? they publish the data and it matches the 3 party tests... why a business would recall a camera that it performs according to the data that they did publish and is selling a lot..... The recovery times are well specified on canon doc so nothing surprising.... disappointing yes..... but not surprising.... It will cost them a fortune to do the recall to make the rather small video segment happy. If I would be canon I would announce a R5c ... 700$ more in a body with fan..... video oriented people would be very happy... no recall and most people that are just doing a few short clip are happy with the current R5 On the photo part of the world it seems a gold rush to get one....
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https://www.canonrumors.com/gerald-undone-completes-exhaustive-record-time-testing-on-the-canon-eos-r5-and-canon-eos-r6/ Getald has done similar test but indoor about the same record time as Canon has published..... seems almost timer controlled than temp controlled...... if a firmware fix will ever come out this is the change maxTime = maxTime * 1.5😂😂 If I get it right you could get 4k hq external for 75min but I hate external recorders......
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Canon EOS R5 / R6 overheating discussion all in one place
gt3rs replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Canon has now a great new sensor with great dr, fast readout, good RS, can do 8k raw and 4k super detailed oversampled, ibis, 20fps, great af and they put it in the wrong body..... -
nfs test took 1500 pictures and right after they got 17min of 8k 10bit.... under the sun. canon says 20min 8k at room temp I see hard time to prove that is not performing as advertised..... is not performing as we have hoped
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This seems the best photo camera ever made from canon 45mpix, 12/20fps, great ibis, low noise, af tracking seems great too with both RF and EF lenses, great photodr, cfexpress from nfs test the overheating are on pair with what canon says. imo chance of a recall almost 0 Unfortunately as video workhorse is a bit too compromised..... I wish it could do for every high end mode minute it would recover with a minute cool down....
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I should have posted the link : https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Canon EOS R5,Sony ILCE-7RM4
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Apparently R5 has a small bit more DR than the A7R4 in photo mode.... a big improvements over previous R sensor
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Canon EOS R5 / R6 overheating discussion all in one place
gt3rs replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
I see some people removing the plastic body and put in aftermath cooled enclosure.... the video quality is really good and I really don’t get why they don’t do a mini c100 with this internals..... -
NFS has a fairly detailed overheat test in various modes. No link as their are not Andrew's friends.
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Canon EOS R5 / R6 overheating discussion all in one place
gt3rs replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
It is even worse as I don't have a R5 and I'm not even defending it for the overheat in video as is a big question mark for any video usage. I also praised the A7S although it has also issues including possible overheating. But this guy joined 3 weeks ago and did 90 useless posts and attacking people and is not banned..... maybe is time for me to move somewhere else... -
NVIDIA HW decoding / encoding support matrix: https://developer.nvidia.com/video-encode-decode-gpu-support-matrix
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As I posted multiple times in varius thread the issue is that Nvidia supports only h265 10bit 4:2:0 and 4:4:4 on 20xx platform and only 10bit 4:2:0 on 10xx platform. Intel quick sync also does not support h265 4:2:2.... Apple arm seems to support it. Not sure why 4:4:4 works and Nvidia cannot do driver update for 4:2:2....
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First reports on photo forum seems good in this regards some went 2 batteries and more than 1200 pictures without issue but more real reports are needed. video is a big issue...
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Canon EOS R5 / R6 overheating discussion all in one place
gt3rs replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Of course h265 is done on the cpu and not on a dedicated h265 hw encoder in a camera😂😂...... just for your info an 8 core i9 10980 cannot do 4k h265 10 bit realtime encoding so saying that canon is not using a hw encoder for 8k in a small camera proves your know how. Sorry I was wrong you should go back and posting gloves and trolling at least you don’t spread fake informations...... -
Canon EOS R5 / R6 overheating discussion all in one place
gt3rs replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Another amazing contribution with a lot of technical details.... I have created a thread on Resolve and canon RAW + h265 with some explanation of the issue and perf examples. @Nezza is doing the same of A7S with tons of details and useful info 🤣 -
From others photo forums it seems an assault to try to get a R5..... here is so video centric that people think that canon only cares about video..... they only care about selling and if they are selling much more than expected then why you would do a recall..... you could create in 6 months a body with fan for video and stick the same internals for video people and actually that should be the best move..... People here are obsessed that canon would recall it to better compete with the A7S III, but I'm ready to bet that for every 10 R5 there will be 1 A7S III sold so not sure is canon priority to compete with A7S is more to compete with A7 and Z photo camera line. Still R5 overheat situation is a mess. I fine with limits but if they are predictable and not affected by simply having the camera on...... if not the video part is just a toy. The issue is that is an amazing photo camera so it will sell in big quantity and canon will get away with the overheating issue Affaire a suivre....
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Canon EOS R5 / R6 overheating discussion all in one place
gt3rs replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
You joined 2 weeks ago 89 posts and not a single valuable one..... enough said. -
Canon EOS R5 / R6 overheating discussion all in one place
gt3rs replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
You contribution to the forum is very very valuable thx to be here -
Canon EOS R5 / R6 overheating discussion all in one place
gt3rs replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
I’m also quite skeptical about external cooling device.... without any test or data is a nice 3d rendering.... thats it. Canon should do a R5v (v for video or vented😀) all the same but on sh1 body stile add the classical 1k usd..... -
Canon EOS R5 / R6 overheating discussion all in one place
gt3rs replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
A7S III is a very good camera but has is own set of issues like overheating under the sun, unusable ibis for video, less detailed 4k than even the A7 III, R5, R6.... R5 has this big issue with overheating that is probably more an issue than the A7S but who knows..... I for one do a lot of shooting under the sun in summer and really cold in winter and probably both camera gives issue.... If after 30 min under the sun A7S III cannot shoot in any mode then R5 is a safer solution as you can go good details s35 crop or low details 4k LQ..... but personally I find both are bad in this regards.... In his second test he did went through all the suggestions including setting to high, but yeah man was never on the moon: -
Canon EOS R5 / R6 overheating discussion all in one place
gt3rs replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Or an umbrella for the A7S III to shield from sun also a bit ridiculous.......