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In the last 10 years I had 1 card failing (could recover something but not all) on me but I had 3 cameras failing so for me is more important a second camera than writing dual card in parallel. I do switch from 1 card to the other to make sure I don't have all in the same card. On the R5 the problem is that the card type are different and on SD you don't have full access to all the recording mode. On 1Dx III is easy with two same card type. But still a silly limitation.

One trick (not a great one) is to do the grading and all on a 4k timeline, with RAW at half res and then switch to full res and 8k timeline, save, close Reslove and restart just for render. The challenge is to know what grade you can apply or not. On my test was LUT on one node, GGL on another and the last one mid tone detail and color boost. Sharpening was set on the camera raw tab. So really basic stuff only. Restarting resolve with proxy to quarter and only open the deliver tab and render seems to help. Also I did un check the use GPU for scopes. Titan RTX seems the way to go but quite expensive. A bit cheaper there is the Quadro P5000 with 16 GB but not sure it make sense. Or if you find a Radeon VII with 16 GB perf should be similar to the 2080ti but more RAM

He cannot, only 8K RAW in CFExpress and in parallel a 4k proxy (can be 10bit HQ) on the SD. But you cannot write the same video file e.g. 4k 10bit on both cards. Same on 1Dx III.... it is silly imo.

With Resolve it depends so much on what you do for example if you use optical flow even 8GB Vram for 4K timeline can be at the limit. So on 8k timeline with Temp NR and Optical Flow below 20 GB Vram nothing will be possible. On very simple grade probably 11 GB would do it but I'm not so sure 8K is 4x the number of pixel of 4K so in pure theory it needs 4x the Vram..... Now 8k source with reframing and punch-in on a 4k timeline is not a problem from my early tests.

the thermal limits are there to protect nothing will be damaged or explode.... your mac pc phone whatever has thermal throttling this is why on high end machines cooling is so key to avoid throttling.... so nothing will explode. As the camera will overheat more and more without the limits is stops to avoid. It cannot throttle down the cpu because it will not be fast enough for the high end mode but it is fast enough for then non oversampled modes

8k raw and all-i have the same overheating limits. Boy is unwatchable this video bla bla bla then the heat test and he does not say at how many degrees was the car..... Hopefully more people with do useful tests....

I did manage setting the playback to proxy quarter res to render 8K timeline to 8k final output using full res RAW with minimal grades but is really not stable enough to work on 8k timeline with 8 GB VRAM. Puget recommend > 20 GB GPU RAM for 8k timeline in Resolve. 8K RAW on 4k or 5.5k timeline works quite well..

From the new rumors seems that 4k 120fps is missing... so it seems (by the random rumors) that at 4k 60 fps it will have slight crop.... 12 Mpix as hybrid is really not that great neither. But if it has a solid 4k up to 60fps good DR, good codec with great AF is still imo a very compelling camera but basically almost dedicated to video.

It could be that the camera has limited DR but how can you judge DR by a quite heavily graded shoot. It could also be bad exposed too. In RAW I doubt it has limited DR as new canon sensors are basically on pair with Sony's one. Now in LOG and on certain mode it could be badly used but without a real DR test is a useless exercises. What is the shoot was heavily overexposed and he added tons of contrast and lower the blacks .....

You can download 10bit h265 4k 120fps and this what did impress most of us looking at the original on a 4k screen in resolve applying our own grade, sharpening etc... you seem to comment without checking out the original and not posting a comparable pixel perfect hd. You could be right but so far is word vs footage....

I don't want to imagine it I want to see actual footage and view that you mention that you are not impressed compared to pixel perfect HD it would be great to prove it...... currently the best 120 fps I saw so far are: 1 C300 III 4k 120 (this is the best one as is oversampled) 2 R5 4k 120 3 ZCam E2 4k 120 So I'm really curious as all the HD stuff that I saw is way less good than the 3 above.

Can you post an example of a pixel perfect 120fps HD?

Is not my style but she is quite talented https://www.instagram.com/irenerudnykphoto/?hl=en

No way 8k in whatever format on a 8 GB Vram GPU. It easy to fool people you take 12k material, configure to process half or even quarter resolution on a 4k timeline and it works. On my machine 8k Canon RAW works fine at half res even on a 5.5k timeline. But 8k full res on 8k timeline on a notebook with max 8 GB Vram imo is not possible in Resolve.

on a 8k timeline?

8k timeline rendering on 8 GB VRam is impossible in Resolve

As there are so many threads on R5,R6 and 1Dx III I thought is better to have a dedicated thread for editing perf. Machine used for the test is a gaming notebook i9 10980HK, 2070 Super Max 8GB Vram, tested with files coming from internal M2 SSD and directly from the CFexpress card (no difference in the result). Resolve 16.2.4, NVidia Studio driver. Very simple grade, 1 node for LUT, 1 node for LGG, 1 node for color boost, saturation and mid tone detail. RAW: 5.5k RAW 30 -> 5.5k 30 timeline realtime 5.5k RAW 60 -> 5.5k 30 timeline realtime 5.5k RAW 60 -> 5.5k 60 timeline 30-35 fps 5.5k RAW 60 -> 5.5k 60 timeline realtime (half res RAW processing) 8k RAW 24 -> 5.5k 24 timeline realtime (half res RAW processing) 8k RAW 24 -> 4k 24 timeline realtime (half res RAW processing) 8k RAW 24 -> 4k 24 timeline 15 fps 8k RAW 24 -> 8k 24 timeline 15 fps but not usable as you get gpu out of memory h265 10bit: 4k 120 all-i -> 4k 30 timeline no realtime 4k 60 all-i -> 4k 30 timeline no realtime 4k 60 ipb -> 4k 30 timeline no realtime 4k 30 all-i -> 4k 30 timeline no realtime 4k 30 ipb -> 4k 30 timeline realtime Observations: - RAW is much easier in perf than h265 10bit, afiak no HW acceleration is currently supporting h265 10bit 4:2:2 only 4:2:0 or 4:4:4 - Thanks that you can set half res RAW (you can even set quarter res) on the decoding setting you can work in real time and then switch to full res for final rendering. - Very strange that ipb can playback in realtime and all-i not, it could be a Resolve issue - You need to disable Intel Quick Sync in Resolve preferences if not you cannot view h265 files, this seems a bug as they could detect that is not compatible with quick sync. - 8k timeline with 8GB Vram is just not possible in Resolve. So even frame grabbing becomes an issue. 6k timeline works for frame grabbing. Did not test the limit here. - It is a very powerful notebook but no where near a powerful workstation... is a tad slower than a i7 9900k 1070 machine. Hopefully both Resolve and CPU/GPU vendor will better support h265 10bit 4:2:2. Bottom-line what you save in storage in not using RAW you will spend in time converting the footage. Would be cool that other reports their experience in this thread and also with other NLEs.

Kind of useless this video as he is shaking more with the camera/phone filming the camera lcd 🙂 so for ibis is really hard to judge. For the RS is not clear if he is in HQ mode or not but I would say it similar to 1Dx III ..... as expected. Would be cool to see a more useful test with hq on and off......

I think for wildlife doc and things like that it could be a competition to RED at 8k 110 fps you can do slow motion you can reframe so you can have bit of margin.... let say for a cheetah hunt could be quite handy... the formfactor could be an issue as you cannot easily mount it on gimbals, drones or cineflex . If it would have been FF and another formfactor would for sure more appealing... anyway impressive achievement imo

That for sure even canon RAW are much easier to edit than 4k h265 10bit 4:2:2.

From my understanding 8k and 4k are not cropped but scaled at least from the product page. So you should get 4k, 8k and 12k all raw and the same field of view that makes it much more practical.

Strange that they have kept CFast instead on CFexpress.... Specs are impressive but not sure how many will pick this up instead of a C300 iii or an FX9

I’m confused from the rumors if 4k 120 is external only or not? 4k 120 10 bit 600 mbits seems a bit on the thin side especially if it is all-i

No AF, no FF, more noise and no IBIS So you need to speedboost and use a gimbal (the video apparently was done half with a gimbal and half handheld) Not sure E2 4k 120/160 is 10 bit? On the plus of E2 no overheating and can go even 160fps.....

Some people are impressed by the posted video some not and is absolutely fine and right so. For me the "stunning" or better very good is the fact that is a 120fps not 60, there are not many cameras on the market that can give you detailed image at 120fps.... let alone with FF look and AF.... only a limited number of cameras can give you 4k 120fps and FF only this one. I was expecting more mushy stuff at 120fps.... Would this video be shoot at 30 or 60 fps maybe it would not be so special (still good imo) but it is at 120fps FF 4k using AF so it demonstrate a unique capability of this camera very well. For some this feature is a useless one for others is a key aspect even with the overheating limitation.