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Is cool that they added XF-HEVC in 8k but the data rate is higher than RAW Light so I will stick with RAW 8K RAW Light (24.00p/23.98p): Approx. 1340 Mbps 8K 24p XF-HEVC S YCC422 10-bit High Quality Intra โ 1920mbps
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Yes, the grading is a bit too much. The rest I like it. The only thing that worries me a bit is some wobble I hope is more user error / extreme situations than IBIS.
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I posted multiple times Canon RAW is super quick in Resolve better than HW accelerated h265 variants and on par with XAVC. With CFExpress I don't need to copy over I can edit directly form the card for quick turnaround. I shoot mostly 8k 50p RAW R5c so 2600 Mbps.... If people don't shoot any action/sport, don't us AF, don't care about raw, don't shoot pictures, R5 II is the wrong camera. As always here most people that negatively comment never have used a R5, R5c, etc, in my domain action/sports/wildlife Panasonic and Fuji are super niche cameras. On the price I will sell my R5 for 2k, buy the R5 II and keep the R5c. TCO of R5 2500$ over 4 years: 52$ a month. R5 II will be around the same. One time less a month in a restaurant and you are done.
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In Switzerland R5 launch price 4490 CHF R5 II launch price 4190 CHF If you take the inflation is even cheaper. It is pure economics, not many new shooters buy a Z8 or R5, mostly have already lenses and camera of one system, as you cannot produce enough to meet initial demand you start with a higher price to cash in on early adopters. Is not that difficult to understand. Two examples: Canon R3 launch price 5979 CHF!!! After 1 year: 4990 CHF, now 3990 CHF. Nikon Z8 launch price 4598 CHF, After 1 year 3099 CHF !!!!
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On RAW codec... Canon RAW is natively supported in Premiere Pro and Davinci Resolve, Nikon only in Resolve and in regards of bit rate: 8k 60p Canon 2600 Mbits, Nikon 3470 Mbits.... Not sure what is worst in Canon RAW vs Nikon I would say is the inverse. I agree on the R1 is really a meh release....
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I truly dislike Vision Pro eye tracking and the pinch gesture is so unnatural and slow. The controller on Quest is so much better input for me, I'm as fast as using my phone. I watch a lot of YouTube on Quest something that I struggled a lot on Vision Pro especially entering text for search is such a pita. I also disable passthrough in Quest. So, for me I have no need of complex eye tracking, high quality passthrough (although this is kind of useful) or silly outside projecting your eyes. What I would love is Quest 3 with Vision Pro screens at 1'000 or 1'500 usd. Imo doable already now or in 1-2 years.
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Did it fail? Have you tried one and watch one of your work on a high res big screen and you may change idea? I was very skeptical but Iโm now a believer. Just watching my own movies on a big screen is impressive. The immersive stuff is scary good. Quest 3 is at the right price and already quite good much better than what I thought, now that finally there is competition fast forward 2-3 years and we will get Vision Pro quality at 500$. We may even change how we consume video no more low res vertical crap but this is more an hope than a prediction๐๐
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As posted a few months ago after my haha moment while trying the Vision Pro 3 months ago I brought a dual fisheye (already had the R5c) and a Meta Quest 3 (kind of Vision Pro for the poor ๐) So far I have filmed: -Bungee jumping on the James Bond Goldeneye jump, probably the most impressive so far that I did. -Basketball -Horse showjumping -Bike -Car -5 Star Luxus Hรดtel Everybody that I have filmed, and I show them on the Quest they just say "ohhhh wow just incredible it seems to be there". It is definitely an early stage, but I feel the tech is finally mature enough for early adopters. Every time I look at the footage it seems unreal.... yet you need to wear a heavy and clumsy device to experience so the 1M$ question is: will Vision Pro style devices become mainstream and if yes when? I also started filming some family moment, not really a lot of work as the camera is normally static just to have some memories in case the tech will really take off. Anyway, I'm happy that Resolve will have tools for immersive (VR180) as right now is a bit of a pita the process, some stuff is quite complex like stabilization... What I would dream of an Insta360 X4 but VR180... I watched some of this year Alaskan Snowboard 360 trip video on the Quest and is just wow, but 360 is not as great as VR180...
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Can you control the gimbal with the phone gyro (like the Ronin) or only with the virtual joystick?
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FYI it does not trim Canon RAW files, just copies the whole file
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Nothing really new and I'm sure is not just insta... but is indeed bad. They produced good stuff no need of these bad behaviors. The good news is that the more and more of this comes out and hopefully people will learn to be very skeptical about those reviewers.... I normally just skim true and look at the video to get an idea. Very fishy are also the comparison gopro vs insta and so on..... I wish some will simply create some good footage and do a bts and not bla bla gamechanger, why I switch, best ever, is so much better than camera b and worst of all with a stupid face on the thumbnail. This is the only one that I really liked, sponsored yes, but starts with really good footage and goes in to how he did it. Still a big Ad, but much better than all these pseudos expert reivewers crap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHT27gW91kU
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I'm really a nob in this. But for VR 360 you are right, you need ambisonics, as your head may turn 180ยฐ the audio would come from the opposite side confusing you a lot, many VR players support some sort of ambisonics audio so they can move the audio following your head. From my limited research and understanding there are multiple standards so you may end up doing different edit+metadata for Youtube VR than for local players Meta Quest TV , Skybox etc.... Apple Vision Pro? Also I think Resolve 19 now support ambisonics but not sure if you can do all in there, for sure not metadata injection. Now for VR180ยฐ your head my turn max 45ยฐ as more than that half of your video will be black so it seems that you can get away with binaural or even stereo. I would prefer a stereo mic like the Sennheiser 440 or Rode Stereo Mic as they are not as tall as the H3 so I can use it on a gimbal.
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I had my ah ah moment while trying Vision Pro and watching Adventure a couple of months ago. I then rented a Canon dual fisheye to use on my R5c, borrowed a Quest 3 and started experiment with some sports that I cover and so far, people are impressed and surprised. Will this time take off? I think we are still too early, but the experience is getting better. I wish Vision Pro would be priced lower and be more open to load content on it, something that with Quest 3 is super easy to do. I kind of grasp now the filming, editing and delivery other than sound. I need ambient sound of the sport event, no dialogs etc... I would like to create a bit of the feeling to be there BUT I don't want to spend a lot of time managing the audio. KISS principle as for now is just a side thing. I see two options, simply using a Stereo Mic or using a Zoom H3 VR and use the "straight out of the device" binaural (not sure how it can be binaural if the mics are so close together). I'm not too interested in dealing with the various ambisonic formats, editing, metadata etc... seems a huge pain and time consuming. Would people perceive a big difference between a stereo mic and the H3 binaural? Any other ideas/opinions?
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I had X2, 1 inch 360 and still have One R 360. I did play a bit more with the X4 The good: - 8k is a very visible bump in quality compared to X3 and 1 inch. Still once reframed is not yet at single lens action cam level but is getting closer. Of course, it really depends on how much you zoom in while reframing. It is more detailed and less compression artifacts. Also, in 360 vr the quality bump is very evident. - operations and UI are snappier than previous models (other than stopping the recording that takes a lot, not sure why) - 5.7k at 60 it allows some slow-motion with X3 quality, in previous models the slowmo was just unusable. - one button operation is customizable so you can set the video mode, frame rate, etc... - battery seems to last a lot, even in 8k 30 - App and Studio are great and work as expected. Connecting the camera to the phone is super easy and always works. Why can't Canon copy them? The ok: - lens guards work ok, great way of mounting them, but is not a free lunch, they need to be super clean, and they still create wired flares. I will probably use mine only on really risky situation. But it is good that they are included. - audio seems a tad better - I don't see a big difference in lowlight compared to the 360 1 inch. They are both quite bad but the X4 is not worst imo that is surprising. - single lens mode allows you 4k 60fps but to be honest the quality gain compared to 8k reframed is not big enough, useful if you need 60fps or you don't want to post process. For example, for chest mount I prefer the reframed angle than single lens. - seems to tend to overexpose but you can set the EV so not a big issue. The bad: - no 10bit log - as for all previous models these type of camera scream for sunny bright days. I mostly using them while moving ski, mtb, horses, cars.... and as soon the light is not great stabilization and video quality suffers a lot. So it is a brilliant camera for sunny days only. - is heavier and bigger than the X3 or the One R + 360 module. - the form factor is perfect for selfie stick but not great for helmet mount. - has only a tripod hole, no gopro mount, it should have both. For action, mounting through the tripod hole will make the camera break in case of any impact where normally the gopro mount would give a bit saving the camera. You can use an adapter, but it makes it even taller. - apparently, every time you turn on the camera you need to re-pair the bluetooth mic. Btw why why and why DJI is disabling internal Mic 2 transmitter recording while connected via bluetooth?!? It would be such a clean solution record scratch over bluetooth (no receiver needed) and have the 32bit float on the transmitter. - external audio through receiver + cold shoe mount + usb adapter is a frankenmoster that is really not usable in action environment. All the YT reviver showing this setup as amazing it makes me cry.... Overall is the best 360 camera on the market by far, coming close to single lens action cam quality, below 2k usd. Finally, after years of stagnation, a tangible bump in quality. With the revival of AR/VR they should do a 180 3D model out this.
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Canon RF 70-200 f2.8 is 1070g and 70-200 f4 is 695g
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Unfortunately, it is a consumer device. @kye I agree with you that they should do a pro model, ideally dual 1 inch, SD UHS-III, 800+ Mbits, 10 bit LOG and better DR. With the revival of VR (Vision Pro, Quest 3) there may be more demand for VR180 and 360 content that may push Insta to create a pro model and maybe even 180 3D one.... time will tell.... Anyway, finally there is a noticeable step forward in quality after years of stagnation....
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DR of course is not world leading.... In less-than-ideal light is not great, but I would say better than the 1 inch that is surprising. You can see from the motion blur that probably it was 1/60 or less (no ND of course), but still some details in me and the bike.. Compared to 1 inch: In quality is definitely a big step forward, I honestly did not expect this much. I think a combination of more pixel, double bitrate and improvement in processing made it possible. Here an iPhone 15 Pro Max 4k screen grab....
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In good light the X4 is just on another planet compared to the 1 inch. Is not apple to apple as is the same location, mount but different time of the year but still I could never get such details from the 1 inch or the R. Just look at the mountains in the background and the detail on me.... Unprocessed screen grab from 8k 30, 200 mbits, sharpening low Processed X4 Processed 1 inch from 5.7 30 I will compare also in low light, but for a first quick look I feel they both look similarly bad ๐
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I just got mine 1h ago, boy they were fast in delivering. I will go for an MTB ride in 1h and test it out a bit and report back. First thing I did is to set it to 8k 30, highbitrate and sharpens to low.
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For me to upgrade..... Must have: 8k 60 RAW with AF and Aperture control using the internal battery Waveform while recording No time limits Better IBIS for video Face AF within an AF Zone like the R3 Nice to have: Zoom-in while video playback or at least when paused on a frame... why does no C line nor R line have it?!? LUT applied on video playback Better DR Better RS Peaking while in AF mode Sharper 4k 120 4k 120 with audio Less lag wifi video transmission Easier phone-camera connection.... it is a mess at the moment they should copy insta360 approach that always work. I'm dreaming: Dual CFExpress Two USB-C ports USB-C no lag video to iPhone so can be used as a screen without additional HW that make no sense... Low latency bluetooth audio Full HDMI port 32 bit float audio Wireless mic support (RODE or DJI or your Canon developed transmitter) Dual tripod socket, this is so basic not sure why no camera manufactured do this. 4k 240
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I just sold my trusted 2 years old 1 inch 360 (I still have 2 normal 1 inch + dual lens) and ordered the X4 for the same price. From the paid "reviews" it seems that the X4 has more details and less artifacts, the biggest issue I have with the 1 inch but without trying myself I don't trust to much these reviews. Lowlight I think they are all quite bad and not really usable, already skiing on north faces in shade in Alaska the 1 inch breaks apart compared to south faces in sunshine. 1 inch sun vs shade: The X4 is 20% lighter, smaller and better weatherproof so if it turns out to really deliver a bit better detail and less artifacts, I'm happy. I will let you know if it is really an improvement or not over the 1 inch. Ideally, they should do a X4 Pro with 8k and 2x 1 inch.... let's hope it comes in the future.
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I was in Lapland 2 weeks ago and I'm now in Alaska. If you don't have them yet buy a great pair of glows with inner glows so you can take out the first layer without exposing your bare skin to the helmets. Filming yourself -> Insta360 One X3 Filming others -> Gopro Hero 12 or Insta360 Ace Pro
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I do tons of snowboard and ski videos but the first key question do you want to film yourself (helmet, selfistick, etc) or film others (follow cam) ? Btw all insta360 cameras have a single button mode, one long press it turns on and record, one long press again stop recording and shuts down. If I recall correctly gopros have it too.
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It is so flawed, he could just buy one used R5 + adapter no need to change everything, keep the DSLR as backup and gain a much much more reliable AF, no lens focus tuning, better still quality, silent shutter with EVF and much better video quality. It even uses the same battery. A used R5 here is a round 2800 USD, you keep it for 3 years, resell it for 500 USD it makes a whooping 65 USD a month, if you cannot afford this change job. Again YT BS
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YT nonsense, the Uber old Prius example is basically saying you are at the bottom of the food chain stay there ๐