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Finally got the insta360 One R Tested quickly yesterday on a skiing session. Here some observation compared to the One X that I have since a year: + Gopro swivel mount is great on action cam especially in case of impact as it tend to lose and not break like the tripod mount of the One X. I wish it would be like the Max that the "wings" are part of the body and you don't need a frame. + Water proof without the stupid venture case is good, no more crappy stitching or strange vignetting while using it in snow or water. + Screen is small but visible in daylight and quite intuitive to use + You can use apple watch to control it and to get the GPS stats, I find the phone not ideal while doing sports.... much prefer the watch as remote. I wish it had GPS in the camera itself like gopros + battery seems to last longer + Phone app is better you can edit without copying the file first so you save space and you can have a quicker turnaround -+ with the frame and swivel is noticeable heavier that the One X but the shape is better for helm mounting, rollbars, handlebars, etc... - USB C, MicroSD card door is quite cheap and hard to use while inside the frame - Construction seems less polished than the One X - 25 fps not yet available Video quality is exactly the same as the One X nothing more nothing less. Did not test yet the 4k mod (seems very similar to a Hero 8 so not a bad option to have) but with the advantage that you can enable and disable FOV and more important stabilization in post. Did not order yet the 1 inch as you cannot find it nowhere Bottom-line if you use the One X as action cam then this is quite a big upgrade if not then is not worth the upgrade cost. My One X is on sale and I keep this one.
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Canon EOS R5 - What Panasonic, Sony and Fuji can do to fight THE 8K BEAST
gt3rs replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Some users just got the 1Dx III so is shipping, probably in small quantities, but a few people have it already. -
Random guesses taking the 1Dx III tech on a R5: data flow for 5.5k 60fps is similar to 8k 30 fps so in theory with CFexpress it could do it in RAW. Not sure what is more limiting for DPAF the data volume or the frame rate.... so not sure it will have DPAF in 8k. 5.5k 60fps is super sampled to 4k 60fps, so again it would be possible to take 8k 30fps and supersampled to 4k 30fps h265 10bit Clog but again would it have DPAF? Now FF 4k 60fps super sampled is probably unrealistic. Probably a 1:1 crop maybe with DPAF 4k 120fps IMO only possible either line skipping or 1:1 crop. Best case by guessing: 8k 30fps RAW at same data rate that the 5.5k RAW 60 fps of the 1Dx III but with DPAF FF supersampled 4k 30fps 10 bit h265 CLog with DPAF 4k 60fps or maybe even 120fps 1:1 pixel so 2x crop. 60fps with DPAF Let see how far they are pushing it..... maybe a big disappointment or maybe another all in like the 1Dx III.....
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Yep unrealistic expectation if you count that even the C200, C300 II and C500 II do not have prores...
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I should receive my One R this week, the 360 module does not seems any better than the One X that I have, but the waterproof and the screen is a good upgrade for me as the venturecase is a piece of c.... so I will sell the One X as I used a lot in the snow and water. The 360 reframe quality is not yet ready for prime time but is so good to reframe in post that for certain type of action is unbeatable. The 1 inch module seems a good step up from the hero 8 and similar. One cool thing is that you can enable or disable the stabilization and the fov in post..... the hero 8 is already processed so if you set the wrong one or you don't know if is better with what level of stabilization you are toasted…. I was shooting last week some rally cars with some hero 8s and when I wanted the hypersmooth on I had it off and vice versa….
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Cool would be that the R6 as the same sensor as the 1Dx III and at least 4k 30fps with DPAF FF and 4k 1.3 crop 60 fps with DPAF all 10bit 4:2:2 then I have my A (1dx) and B (R6) cam...….. the R5 with all these mpixels smell fishy for video if Canon did not get some breakthrough in sensor technology....
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People are a bit too optimistic.... if the R6 will use the 1Dx III sensor, as it could be view that it has the same mpixels and same 20 fps in electronic mode, in a cheaper model it will probably be 4k 30fps FF and 4k 60 fps 1.3 crop hopefully at 10 bit 4:2:2. Question is if FF is super sampled or not. If no CFExpress then no RAW for sure.
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You are saying that 1dx is crippled with questionable features.... like the dpaf in FF, like many others in this forum, there are 3 threads with multiple posts similar to yours saying that Canon is crippling dpaf in ff without realizing that nobody else has ever have made Raw ff with af.... so your post was good info contains?
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O boy again.... point wich camera can do >4k FF Raw with AF? I help you: C700 FF (but only with additional recoding module), C500 II and then 1Dx III.... not really questionable as no other manufacturer has a FF camera that can do it. FF Internal Raw 4k or above with AF no other camera so why people continue to complain?
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I did a quick mental guess, doing the right math is true that 8k is more by ca 4% than 5.5k 60fps so still doable but I doubt in a R model right now 5.5k 1dx 5496 x 2904 x 60 = 957'623'040 8k 7680 × 4320 x 30 = 995'328'000
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Not totally impossible as 8K at 30 is less data than 5.5K at 60 and 4k at 120fps could be a 100% crop. Also 45Mpixel at 20 fps... seems fishy but maybe a crop burst like the M6 Ii... To me it seems all too good to be true
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Did you shoot in the past with an MF camera? Not sure how fast is the GFX100 as I never used one but the few MF cameras that I tried they were just very slow in all like startup, time to review picture, zoom in, next picture etc. hopefully today they are much faster. Are you shooting primarily video or photo? For video the GFX 100 give you the MF size but the rest for the price IMO is pretty mehh, not usable AF in video, no 4:2:2, no 60p..... for similar price I would take the FX9 anytime or as a stretch a C500 II because with the saving in lenses you will have similar total budget. Depending on that choice add a Canon R or A7 III. If mostly photo and you really want highres I would pick the A7 IV.
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What program do you use for editing? Kind of fun when the 1dx ii came out here everybody complaining about the old codec (although super fast for editing) now that they use the most modern one everybody complain that is bad because slow to edit....
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Codec isn’t good enough? 5.5k RAW 4k DCI 4:2:2 10bit log h265 4k DCI 4:2:0 8bit h264 4k UHD 4:2:2 10bit log h265 4k UHD 4::2:0 8bit h264 Seems to me that the codec choice is just great.
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1Dx III as I mostly shoot action so the fps for still and 60fps and 120fps for video are very important. Plus medium format has more limited lens selection and no real long lenses. MF lens are even more bulky than FF ones. Last but not least I have a good selection of Canon lenses. I did not check footage of the GFX 100 so not sure on the impact but is 10bit 4:2:0 and not 4:2:2 and max 30fps... 5 fps still is very slow for any action. Imo GFX 100 is a landscape camera if that is your primary goal then is probably a great camera and 1Dx is the wrong one. But anything fast paced or need long reach then GFX is not a great choice. If primary goal is video a C500 II or FX9 is a much better choice. Not really sure why your question because are so opposite these two cameras.
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Did the user check at 30p RAW or above? Could be that two different spec sheets, one in europe and one in usa, are both wrong but would be a big mistake. As I stated on a previous thread view that camera can shot at 20 fps RAW 14bit photo with AF tracking does not seems impossible at least at 24/25 fps RAW video. But yeah if people could check would be great.
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Would be cool to check: - if it can really AF at 5.5k RAW 30p (spec says so but with all the confusion is better to check) - if you can take a frame grab from the 5.5k RAW and save it as jpg - if it can write the same 10bit video on two cards in parallel (RAW card 1 and 4k proxy on card 2 works, so I'm curios for two 4k videos) - Quality of 120fps FHD, not easy to check but maybe they let you bring home 1 TB CFExpress as a gift 🙂 - If histogram is available while recording (I doubt) - if the 30min limit is there or not (not sure they let you run a long test) - Latency on wifi while monitoring the video over a phone
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On my 1Dx II in 4k 60p vs 30p has exactly the same sharpness and quality. 120fps FHD is quite soft. 50/60 fps FHD I have no idea as I never used that mode
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For one that they have a good video for promo instead on the usual bad ones..... Not sure I could say is better the 120fps quality because it is a different stage from where I use the 1Dx II.... ski, ice hockey, mtb or horse show jumping would have been better for me to compare. I highly doubt that they can do 120fps supersampling and seen that the C500 II has a huge crop at 120fps I tend to think that it will be about the same as the 1Dx II pixel binning 120fps quality but at least we gain log and better bitrate so maybe a tad better due to this it will be.