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Entire spec list? Not even the sensor resolution is in there.... Nothing new on the list that was not in the pre announcement.

8K or above is very beneficial for reframing 360 videos. The challenge is to fit two big enough sensors + lenses so close to each other. So a dual m43 camera would be super but the stitching at close distance will be a big challenge. Having multiple m43 sensors will make the size too big to profit from the amazing freedom that you have put in on long stick. The Qoocam with 2 1/1.7'' sensors and 8K is a first step in to getting high quality reframing... curious to see how this segment evolve in the next few years probably next step is 1'' sensor.

One think that I do not understand is why canon is not offering compatibility with hot shoe EVFs like the one from the M6 II: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1318788-REG/canon_1727c001_evf_dc2_electronic_viewfinder_black.html So you can have both OVF and EVF.... They could even sell a premium one....

If you check the BTS you will spot at least 3 others 1Dx II placed as remote for video. Not sure why is so hard to understand that the main target is not video only people, but it is sport action photographer that also shoot video and there are many like me. On the price, I have my 1Dx II since release so by the time the 1Dx III is on the market it will be 4 years old. I have more than 300'000 shutter click on it so let say I can resell it for less that 1000 USD. So 5k in 4 years it makes around 100$ a month.... the ones that screams around about the price they change systems and cameras in this 4 years a few time and I'm sure that they end up with more than 100$ a month... And btw the 4k 60p with AF was the main drive for me to upgrade from the 1Dx and 4 years later not many cameras can do that. Canon is really frustrating because they have the tech to produce better camera and not cripple it like omitting Log etc... Let see what kind of limitations and or crippling will the 1Dx III have..... on the C500 II they went all in let's hope they will do the same with the 1Dx III

Freesolo I have updated the post above. Again It is a camera for sport and action photographer that do also video, if you are video only buy a cinema camera but for people like me I want a single camera that does both the best it can.

Just won an Oscar but nobody uses it for video? From freesolo director: "What cameras and lenses did the high-angle team have in hand? On the walls we were shooting with the Canon C300s [Mark II]. Since I was directing and shooting, and also shooting a NatGeo story on top of it, I was filming with the Canon 1DX Mark II so I could film but also shoot stills. But everybody else was on the C300s. When we were up on the wall, we were using EF lenses, but when we shot vérité we often had the Canon Cinema Primes. The long shots from the ground up the wall were through the Canon 50–1000mm Cine-Servos. As you can imagine, that was a very critical lens throughout this film. Canon went above and beyond in their support of this film. We were very lucky indeed." They used 1Dx II also as remote triggered video camera, on the BTS you can spot them multiple time. They had custom made long range camera triggers build around Arduino and long range radio Again tons of pro photographer for Action and Sports do shoot video and many do with the same DSLR that we use for photo. It is not for you but the pro action and sport market is much bigger than the hobbits or limited budget video market and yes we shot video too

Log is in the press release now which Log is another story...: "shoot 4K videos including 4K60p with 10-bit 4:2:2 Canon Log internal recording."

I'm really looking forward to this new camera but knowing Canon it is better to wait before celebrating especially for the video part. The biggest unknown: - Raw video resolution, crop, fps and codec. Assuming that the Video Raw is true because is nowhere to be seen in the official press release - 4k 60p crop or no crop and codec. Codec cannot be MJPG because I don't think it supports 10bit. Dream: FF 6k Cinema Raw Lite 24,25,30 fps FF 4k 60p 10bit 8:2:2 h264 or h265 derivative Would still be very happy: FF 4k Cinema Raw Lite 24,25,30 fps <=1.6 crop 4k 60p 10bit 8:2:2 h264 or h265 derivative

Curios about the crop if any maybe it has one in 4k and none in 6k Raw assuming that it has this feature. In the b&h video they mention RAW video but it is nowhere else to be found. One strange thing is the internal wifi that is in the announcement text from canon.... why it should still have the wifi dongle (apparently for speed, range maybe?) but sounds a bit strange to me. On the still side I'm really exited about the 20fps with both electronic and mechanical shutter. I use a lot remote cameras and for some sports the mechanical shutter noise is not an issue with the plus that you don't have problem with led billboards, skews etc... but on some others a fully silent is a big plus like ice-skating galas etc..

Based that you are a pro photographer and you work with many of them you are pointing this out, or do you have some market survey? At every ice hockey match that I cover we are 5 to 10 pro photographers all with 1Dx (ca 40%) or D5 (ca 50%) , more than half produces also videos from interviews at the end of the match to promo video for the club etc. When I cover FIS alpine ski people also do video. Same for Horse races and car races. The way that you get pay is to get affiliated to a team, event organization or web sites and then you start offering both photo coverage but also video (not for the match or race because are broadcasted) but interviews, trainings, promo of various type, special events etc.... When you have 2 top of the line cameras you don't want to invest also in let say C200 that is a big cost but also something more to carry around. Action is also an area that people use DSLR for multiple role. Just watch Free Solo and you see that they use multiple 1Dx for filming in addition to C300....

Better video autofocus since when? 1Dx II is probably the best video AF on the market still, even better than the C200 including AF at 120 fps. Also the 1Dx II you can upload custom picture styles. So the A9 II is targeted only to the 200 pro photographers that goes to the Olympics, and out of them only 20 will shoot Sony...…so as soon as the Olympic is over they remove it from the market..... And me and many other colleagues that do both photos and video we are not the target? I have 2 1 DX II and don't want to carry another video body. Just out of curiosity how many A9 or 1Dx or D5 do you have and use for?

As I do pro sport photography and video, own 1dx II, I think I qualify as intended audience.... Many of my colleagues do the same so video is an important aspect of a camera targeted for action and sport.

I remember reading here when it was announced... 1.4 crop in video, crippled etc... It was and it still a very good camera. I have mine since it was released and it served me very well for both photo and video. Still the best 4k60p with AF on the market... I was hoping that the new a9 ii would have much better video spec to eventually push canon and nikon to do better but sadly is not the case. It is sad how these company they limit features even on their top of the line cameras... Why no picture profiles, log, 4k 60p etc..? I still hope that the new 1dx iii will have ff 4k60p with clog and fhd 120fps with much better quality... but knowing canon probably not.

Merely a firmware update...

yeah quite bad that they don’t publish detailed spec sheet

Reframing is just so convenient problem is it needs 8k to be able to get a decent quality

I was hoping for something more on the MAX compared to the insta360 one X. The cool part is that it has 6 mics, gps (if I got it right) and 5m water resistant without case. Of course we need to compare the video quality before any conclusion. Really curios to see how the audio is, something that the insta360 one X is basically unusable especially in movement. Also not sure if it has desktop software for reframing other than the premiere plug-in as I only use Resolve.

Do mostly action and sports photos and videos. Pro Ice Hockey, Car Racing, Alpine ski, Trial Bike, Horse Show Jumping, Figure Skating, etc… Canon C500 II *Canon 1Dx II Canon M6 II + EF Adapter Chronos 2.1 *EF-M 22 2 *EF-M 11-22 *Canon 16-35 2.8 *Canon 24-105 4 *Canon 200-400 4 *Canon 24 1.4 *Canon 50 1.2 Canon 85 1.2 *Canon 8-16 fisheye Inspire 2 x7 + DJI x7 lens set *Insta360 one X 4x Aputure 300D + battery *Tripods *DJI Ronin Gimbal tons of other accessories *Already own. For action and sports I need AF, too hard to do it manually for me. Need at least 4k 60p so having canon lenses C500 II it is a no brainer. M6 II as small hidden remote camera where more than gopro / insta360 quality is needed. Inspire x7 would be a good step up, currently using a phantom 4 pro. Chronos would be for some special super slow motion, would never buy one but view that is a dream kit list….

No internal RAW, external RAW needs a add-on module, no 6k recording internal or external, DCI coming later, 60p coming later. Specs are not great hopefully the image quality will be

So you pay first and then get piece by piece through firmware updates..... is a new form of Crowdfunding? Basically the fw of the camera is far from finished....

Curious what framerates it has at what resolution....

@Kisaha yep the insta one x is misarble in low light.... The Ricoh 1" start to be usable for photos problem is that is week on video only 4k 30..... for video quality is below the insta…. I think already 8k from two 1" would already be a game changer... maybe in a year or so.... with dual cards I don't think it is a problem to save two 6k streams to be stitched to 8k problem is that they target consumers and editing on phones and low end PC would simply not work for 8k.... is already a stretch 5.7k

Fully agree especially with 360.... I played around with a samsung gear 360 2 years agoo and it was just crap, now I have 2 insta360 one x and the quality is still miserable when reframed but is so much easier to reframe in post.... small wide angle cameras like gopros, osmos, drone fix lens cameras have their days counted.... with 360 reframing and stabilization is just an easier game.... just need 8k or better 16k. Especially for things that you cannot retake is so much easier.... 360 camera vendors have the advantage that is not so easy to achieve the same freedom with phones so they may have a safer market

I’m all in for dslr/mirror less 8k just there are no target buyers for the olympics, who owns the broadcasting rights will not shoot it with that form factor.... sony still does not have a 4k 60p mirror less .... sony will probably invest in bringing broadcast camera with 8k and hfr for > 100k usd