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Are we sure that they have the same settings? Same sharpness applied? They both look bad IMO but I have the impression that one is heavily sharpened and the mavic not. A quick try in PS (small contrast boost and heavy sharpening) and they look similar (no details and tons of artifacts). Naturally sharpening a screen grab from a youtube video is not the best idea because you end up sharpening the compression artifacts too. For a real comparison we would need both video with 0 sharpening applied and then we could tell more.

DJI X3 has a flat profile called D-Log and I expect to be the same on Mavic. Mavic bitrate is 60 Mbits the same as the X3 (phantom 4) and Gopro 4 and 5. This tells nothing about the final quality but the specs are similar. Mavic camera spec: Camera Sensor1/2.3” (CMOS), Effective pixels:12.35 M (Total pixels:12.71M) LensFOV 78.8° 28 mm (35 mm format equivalent) f/2.2 Distortion < 1.5% Focus from 0.5 m to ∞ ISO Range100-3200 (video) 100-1600 (photo) Shutter Speed8s -1/8000s Image Max Size4000×3000 Still Photography ModesSingle shot Burst shooting: 3/5/7 frames Auto Exposure Bracketing (AEB): 3/5 bracketed frames at 0.7 EV Bias Interval Video Recording ModesC4K: 4096×2160 24p 4K: 3840×2160 24/25/30p 2.7K: 2704×1520 24/25/30p FHD: 1920×1080 24/25/30/48/50/60/96p HD: 1280×720 24/25/30/48/50/60/120 Max Video Bitrate60 Mbps Supported File FormatsFAT32 ( ≤ 32 GB ); exFAT ( > 32 GB ) PhotoJPEG, DNG VideoMP4, MOV (MPEG-4 AVC/H.264) Supported SD Card TypesMicro SD™ Max capacity: 64 GB. Class 10 or UHS-1 rating required

From the specs I would say it is very similar, it seems like the same sensor, different lens 28mm 2.2 vs 20 2.8 of the x3 and "only" 96 fps at 1080p instead of 120fps. Sensor size, mpix, datarate, gimbal specs seems the same or comparable as the phantom 4. Of course only a direct real world comparison will tell the reality but on paper it seems very comparable with the X3...

Not true 4k in 1DC, 1Dx II and 5D IV is not down sampled but 1:1 pixel readout. 1080p I agree is not great...

Thx. For reference the compatible list: https://www.usa.canon.com/CUSA/assets/app/images/cameras/eos/DAF/compatible_lens_chart.pdf

Why should v1 not be supported by DPAF? Can you point out where did you read it. I have lens much older than the v1 (introduced December 2000) that works perfectly fine like the 85 1.8 (July 1991) with DPAF. I have and use regularly the 16-35 II for 4k video (1.3crop) and is quite good, for photos or 1080p the corners are ok but not great, the new one seems better. It is a good point to consider also the 16-35 F4 IS, personally I would prefer to have the 24 1.4 II + 16-35 F4 than only the new 16-35 III (about the same cost). I have the 16-35 II and the 24 1.4. In Switzarland you can find many on the local ebay at around 800-900 usd, I would never pay 850 for the I version. As soon as there are III on the market the II will drop even further in price.

Not sure why it should not work well with the 501 monitor... I use, especially on a gimbal, a el cheapo Lilliput monitor and it works great, it works at every framerate either with the camera recording FullHD or 4k... Zebra, Histogram, Peaking works too.... The 501 being a much more professional monitor should work even better. The wifi is really good for a second operator for setting the focus via touch or to control the camera while mounted in a non accessible location like cablecam or jib.... The lag is noticeable and also the frame rate is lower... not sure I would use it as a primary monitor, as a remote monitor it works well enough and is much cheaper compared to a more pro solution like teradek + monitor

Yes, and there are two modes, one with only the external lcd active where you can get the full information exactly how it is showed on the internal one. Naturally you can use the joystick to move the autofocus point... The second mode you have both lcds enabled and there you see the camera info only on the embedded lcd and the external get a clean hdmi output, in this mode you can use both the touch on the embedded lcd or the joystick to move the focus. Personally I wish there was the possibility to have the camera info on both lcds at the same time especially for gimbal usage...

Canon has announced the C700 using a very similar (I would bet internally exactly the same) Codex recorder doing 4k 120fps RAW at the same time as Panasonic (actually a few days before) .... Basically both cameras use the same recorder from Codex. So no special amazing tech here from Panasonic

If the specs are true it is a 80D in a mirrorless dress. So you can deduct already the performance and features 1. No, due to the European video camera tax 2. Yes, 80D has it, why they would remove? (you never know with Canon) 3. Yes, and if the battery power is enough it should have the same speed and functionality has the 80D in LiveView = very good. 4. No, the 80D doesn't have a clean HDMI out. Again it could be totally different but view that Canon is quite predictable I bet this is right. Price would probably be in the 80D zone too...

Did you try Resolve? I want to upgrade my machine but I want to be sure that it plays back 4k60p in real-time....I bet it should work because my that has a crappy GPU and the CPU is not the latest does 4k30p...

On a notebook W10 i7-4810MQ with a Nvidia K2100 with 2 GB Ram can playback in real-time with the windows media player at 4k 60p and in Resolve 12.5.1 it can playback in real-time 4k 30p on a 1080p timeline (I switch to a 4k timeline for final rendering), scrubbing is really fast. Anyway it is faster and easier to edit 4k 30p MJPEG than 4k 30p H.264 Gopro files in Resolve on my notebook. A good spec PC like a i7 6800K with a R480 8GB (seems the best at the moment for Resolve in term of price performance) should give you very good perf considering that is already usable on my notebook.

Yes DCI of the IV is 1.64 but the M5 is probably a 24mpix APS-C sensor so you start already at 1.6x add the 1-1 4k pixel readout and you should land around 2.34 FF crop or 1.46 APS-C crop. Still usable with APS-C wide-angle lenses but I doubt it will be like this. I personally would be very happy if they would put a 1-1 4k 30p MJPEG at 400 Mbits on it....but is more a dream than an hope

I hardly doubt the 4k because it would be even more of a crop that the 5d IV at 2.34 DCI.... my guess is that if we get lucky is the same sensor as the 80D with 1080 60p and DPAF that would be for Canon mirrorless standards very very good.

In my country the wifi adapter was 370 usd at launch.... If you use the 1dx II on a tripod you can connect a PC, tablet or Mac via Ethernet you have even less lag. Alternatively you can buy a small battery power router that has an Ethernet port any you get the same functionality but is not as convininet, additional thing to charge, cable and router hanging around where the WFT is a more elegant solution. For gimbal use the WFT-8E is the way to go. Lag is ok, I did recently a scene where I had my 1DX II on the Ronin M on a cablecam and I was using a tablet for framing and focus setting while operating the Ronin via remote... a zero lag would have been better but it was usable and the scene came out as I wanted. If you think what a remote follow focus with a remote hdmi solution would cost you the 370 usd was a great investment.

Interesting is that the C700 at 4k 60fps 10 bits 4:2:2 XF-AVC has a data rate of 810 Mbits. People complain about the 1Dx II data rate due to the MJPEG that is a dinosaurs and file are soo big for nothing.... I know is not so easy to compare but the 1Dx II would need around 20% more space for roughly a similar quality (800 Mbits 4:2:2 but only 8 bits, using 10 bits jpegs would be 1000 Mbits) So in pure theory the 1Dx II using XF-AVC 8bits 4:2:2 instead of MJPEG would have a data rate of 640 Mbits instead of 800 Mbits.

I agree with Luke that 120fps is 5d III quality, not bad but not great. I do use it quite a bit but when I know that I don't need too slow down too much I go with 4k 60p and conform it on post. When I can I shoot at 120fps and then re-shoot at 4k 60p and choose in post which one fits best, the athletes hate me for this:-) Comparing 120fps vs. 4k 60p quality is day and night IMO. I wish there would be an option to have 120fps 1080p at 1-1 pixel.... I know it would be a severe crop but if the quality would be like a 1-1 1080 crop out of the 4k quality it would be super. Anyway for action the combination of 120fps with DPAF and shallow DOF can create some really nice scenes.

Is istantaneous and as soon as you stop you can hit record again 0 delay

Yes, you are right just checked on my camera and the High Frame Rate and the 24.00p settings are mutually exclusive and PAL/NTSC settings decide the conforming frame rate. Max record time is 7:29 minutes

1/125 is the minimum shutter speed. 120fps is conformed to the camera framer rate 24,25,30 or 60 also no audio. Max record time at 120fps is 7 minutes.

In fact they look quite similar in term of DR. Your custom one seems to have more saturation because the reds and magentas are more saturated that the original, did you have the same saturation dialed in?

Luke did test the 1Dx II vs.1Dc also on the 1080p: I cannot comment on the 1080p quality because I use only the 120fps, that is for sure not on pair to the 4k 60p scaled down to 1080p. For my usage I prefer to always to shoot at 4k even for quick turnaround. I can edit even directly from the CFast card with Resolve in real time so I can have a quick turnaround without too many hassle. So if you have enough CFast or fast CF cards why bother with the 1080p. Battery life I would say I can fill a 256 CFast card with 1/3 of battery left. So i would say around 1h & 1/2 - 2h with one battery but is not scentific. In my usage I tend to reveiw alot the clips and I do a lot of gimbal work where I use an external monitor. AF racks look very good to me not robotic.. but Philip Bloom is supposed to publish an AF test soon so you may want to wait that for an in deep analysis. For me the AF is really good, I just finish a video of horse back riding shoot 70% on a Ronin M wide open at 24 1.4 and 50 1.2 as a one man band and running around the horses that gallop... I had a few miss focus but before it would simply be impossible.

BMC 4k RAW 3:1 is 200 MB/s ca. 1.6 Gbits.... 2x the 1Dx II 4k60p data rate.... no way on a CF card, on CFast is doable like BM does.

Personally I see no use other than the 120fps for 1080p. The 4k quality is so much better and the possibility to reframe and stabilize before outputting 1080p it is a no brainer. The only reason to use the S35 1080p is in case that you need to record for many hours something that I never do, but I understand that could be something that others need. The only thing that the 1DC has better is CLog, I would take the 4k60 DPAF over Log any time but I do tons of one man gimbal stuff for sports so my needs may differs from others.

I really like the 1Dx II and 4k 60p with DPAF is really unique and powerful. I just read that Philip Bloom wants to the sell his 1DC to acquire a 1Dx II. I believe he was really impressed by the DPAF and 4k 60p and I can share the reasoning. But Canon should do a firmware update for the 1Dx II and add Log, a 1:1 crop option for 1080p 120fps (higher quality), zebra and peeking this would make It the perfect hybrid. Even paying update would be good. Probably it will not happen, but I’m sure that they would sell even more 1Dx and probably not cannibalize the Cxxx series. I’m not so sure that there will be a 1DC II.