Simon Young

Of course but then you lose DPAF. And who shoots at 50/60p more than at 24/25p? I would really prefer it if it was the other way around. Interestingly the M6ii and the 90d with it’s binned and soft 4k has very low rolling shutter, which is promising for the R5 if they choose that route instead of downsampling. I have high hopes for the rumored M5ii with IBIS, I don’t mind having soft 4K. But we all have our preferences, good rolling shutter performance is next to good colors and reliability what is most important to me. Chacun son goût.

Wolfcrow tested out the 1dxIII extensively on a job and praises many things, but rolling shutter performance in 5,5k raw is not one of them. It’s really bad (which makes me cautious about both the R5 and R6) But the image is as expected gorgeous. https://wolfcrow.com/canon-1d-x-mark-iii-real-world-review-for-video-and-cinematography/

Stop trolling and leave Ebrahim. You think that is even remotely relevant as an image quality comparison? Full VLOG 10bit internal is something the 8bit Sonys with their shitty s-log won’t even come close to regarding color and dr.

Wholeheartedly agreeing about the S1. Owned it for a couple of months, sold it because I was a bit of a cunt with regards to the autofocus, but no other full frame mirrorless I’ve had or tried offer the same tank like build quality and gorgeous output. A gem of a camera for sure.

Unfortunately no. I sold mine because of this, but I really miss it though. And I know some people aren’t even bothered by this, but just like you I found it too annoying to live with. Hopefully this gets remedied on the mark ii. And I really wish Nikon would release their compact primes already.

@DEFI63 Génial. Encore un français qui refuse de s’exprimer dans la langue toute a fait dominatrice de ce forum. Et non, le R5 n’arrive pas le 16 mai. Ils se sont trompés dans la traduction du site allemand.

@Super8 God tier trolling right here 😂

@Brother Another disconcerting thing I’ve noticed with the IBIS is it seems to be introducing the infamous warping artefacts when shooting on something moderately wide, such as the 16mm f1.4, even when holding the camera as still as possible. Have you noticed this? Yes I know we’re all different w/r/t how disturbing this is, but I really dislike it and much prefer a shaky non stabilized hand held shot to a wobbly warping one.

You still have the E-M1X? I’ve been thinking about the E-M1ii for documentary purposes, how high would you push the ISO on the Olympus? It’s the same sensor as the GH5, right?

@Brother great test that confirms what I’ve noticed in the previews - cancelled my preorder. I really hope they can fix this with firmware, otherwise the X-T3 seems like a bargain. Nice to hear about the (good) heat managment as well. Heja Sverige

😂🤣😂🤣

You can’t be taken serious. I owned the S1 for a stint and was amazed at how good the IBIS was, and of all the MILCs I’ve had my hands on the build quality of that camera is a thing of beauty. With the full V-LOG the color science is amazing, I much prefer it to both the Fuji and the Canon Really hope Canon does well with the IBIS, but seeing how this is their first attempt I’m not holding my breath. Just look at how Fuji cocked up the XT4, which has a smaller sensor. And motion cadence, LOL

Interesting. Tell me more about this please. How will the R5 have better 4K than the Panasonics, for example, apart from the supposed frame rates?

Maybe, but what kind of rolling shutter will we be seeing in 4K 24/25p? That’s more important to most of us, I believe. I was really disappointed with the 1dx III in 4K and 5,5k at 24p. It’s worse than the Sony A*000. And I’m m certain the R6 with the 20mpx sensor won’t Be any better than the 1dxIII in that regard.

@hmcindie Haha, you don’t know shit about what I’m producing. And if you don’t understand what I write about the R5 hype train then I can’t help you. And I suggest you calm down with your condescension, it’s distasteful and unbecoming and makes you look like an insecure bully.

Are you serious? Public service in my country produces a vast array of content, spanning from fiction to news reporting and documentaries.

Lovely @Django. I see that you managed to cram "game changer", "cripple hammer", "FACTS" and "butt-hurt" into two posts within the hour. It reads like an over excited, underachieving Youtube shill-tard's headline. You know what people use where I work, at the national public television, besides the ENG-cameras? Panasonic GH5, Panasonic S1, Panasonic GH5s and I've seen one S1H. You know what they won't be using doing professional video work on the field? Canon R5 in 8K raw. Get a grip.

@Django wow, here goes the Sony fanboy crying again - I shoot with Nikon and Fuji by the way, I hate Sony to a fault. See what you assume when you're getting all excited about how the R5 outperforms the Canon cinema line is just that, an assumption. Numbers on paper. No real world testing, no initiated information about codecs and bitrates, reliability and on and on. Who knows, the IBIS might even be botched or just plain useless, like the Sony or the X-T4. Get a fucking grip and save the panegyric for canonrumors.

This represents the type of comments I will come back to when the misty eyed corona pandemic induced haze of wishful thinking goes away. Thinking the R5 is going to outperform the C500ii for a fraction of the price is so delusional it’s heartbreaking. Do you really think the Canon engineers have somehow come up with a way to defy physics? That the R5 sensor and body will magically not be affected by or generate heat? Or that they have conjured up a 45MP sensor that has such an incredible readout speed that rolling shutter won’t be an issue? Or that they mystically now have leap frogged the Sony sensors with regards to dynamic range? Get a fucking grip.

Having owned the A7rIII and the A6000 before that I really dislike Sony (the ergos, the colors, the cheap build quality) but I kind of hope they will release a 12mpx A7sIII with a slightly bigger body than the A7rIV, pristine native 4K and downscaled 1080p ooc, Sony autofocus, nicer handling and most importantly: an electronic vari-nd and the S-Cinetone profile from the FX9. I love that profile, which in my opinion is the best looking SOOC image out there. 10bit 4.2.2 at 200mbps I HEVC would be enough. Priced at 3-3,500 us. I’d buy one in a heartbeat. Maybe two. Sadly this will never happen.

It will have dreadful rolling shutter and overheat. If you think Canon will release a more powerfulf MILC than their 16.000 dollar C500ii but for a third of the price you should stop kidding yourselves. Like immediately. If something sounds too good to be true, it's never true. I've tested the 1dxIII and it is of course a wonderful stills camera for sports and journalism, but its rolling shutter almost makes it unusable for handheld video, in 5k and 4k. Oddly many people don't even talk about this. Imagine what it will look like in 8k.

See the overheating around 8:50. I actually bought the X100V despite the overheating, I'm only using it for photos but it gets really hot as you say. I've got really high hopes for Canon this year but knowing Canon I'm not holding my breath.

He's using the 10-24mm which would cause a problem on any IBIS system, but notice how even when he's trying to hold the camera still, there's excessive warping. The only time it looks ok is when he's on his boat, with the camera presumably fixed with a gorilla. Unusable. It would look ten times better with the X-T3 and the 10-24mm only using OIS of the lens.

I'm pretty sure I've seen at least 98 percent of all the preproduction videos on the X-T4, since I was super interested in buying it and replace my Z6 with it. I can safely say that the warping and wobble from the X-T4 is worse than all the cameras I've ever tried or owned (A7III, Olympus EM-1 II, Z6 and GH5). This is a huge disappointment. I've also seen one video where the guys testing the X-T4, I think in Malaysia, gets the camera to overheat within 15 minutes, something that never happened with my X-T3. What I find especially disturbing is that if you are hand holding the X-T4 with as little movement as possible it still exhibits warping, even on a moderately wide lens like the 16mm. This doesn't happen with my Z6 on a 24mm. It's very very stable.

Wow @sanveer maybe take it easy with the name calling, finger pointing and fascism? Your last post is truly vile and I don’t think you want to go down this route in this forum.