Simon Young

What? I don’t find waxiness to be an issue but I would never use this camera past iso3200, iso6400 is not “extremely clean”. Wtf are you talking about?

I just watched this video. The grade is debatable but there are plenty of skin tones in there that don't show the least bit of waxiness. Eterna, ungraded: He also compares the skin tones with the 1DXII and the A7III. The Canon looks the waxiest and the Sony looks the worst.

Please give us a believable source. You’re not Luke Mason in disguise are you? Back with a vengeance, dropping “knowledge” here citing no one except yourself or, in this case, some obscure Weibo account.

It’s a dream of a camera, I just got mine. The lack of ibis is not bothering me at all, because the rolling shutter is so well controlled. If you can’t get a good image out of this camera then your really fucked.

Safe to say that the X-T3, like so many other cameras these days, is very capable of shooting narrative stuff.

The Z6 low light video Dreaming has been removed from Vimeo. Interesting... maybe Nikon were disappointed with the dead pixels ?

The intro in this video with the slow motion shots on the arm displays exactly what I’m talking about. The skin is completely void of texture. There’s no life in it. And it’s not a question of detail or resolution, just look at her flannel shirt.

I have seen it many times with the x-t2 I used to own, but it only happens with JPEGs of course, and at higher ISOs. Same goes for video. It’s just a sort of smearing of the skin tones, making it look rather texture less. But it’s of course something we are more or less sensitive about.

I think it’s important to see if the new noise reduction algorithm creates the same kind of waxiness in skin tones like the X-T2 did above ISO 800 in video. If that’s the case it’s a huge deal, no matter how pleasant the colors are.

Lovely looking footage @tomsemiterrific When setting noise reduction to -4 with the Eterna simulation, would you say it is completely off or is the camera still doing some noise reduction?

It might sound desperate but I’m praying Nikon doesn’t fuck up with the Z6, crippling it’s continuous autofocus somehow just because it’s the cheaper model. If it’s on par with the Z7, I’ll buy it on release day Loving he motion cadence as well!

More autofocus tests with the Z7 and some adapted lenses. Looks promising!

Why?

Haha, no but I’m passionate about not having people here spreading misinformation about a lot of stuff that might be important to others. “Luke Mason” has been very prominent doing so wrt everything related to the XT-3. Almost getting the Ebrahim-vibe.

Fuji said exactly that you daft prick. This is from their site. Time for you to stop trolling about the X-T3, don’t you think?

Yes, the Ninja V seems extremely promising as well. Will get both the X-T3 and the Z6 and later decide which one that better suits my needs. I have a feeling the IBIS of the Z6 might be what settles it in the end...

I just hope there's a way to really turn off the NR in both the Z6 and the X-T3, please let this be the case.

A Memento of life looks horrible, but thank God it's a very rough grade, the skin looks almost Sony-green, which is not a compliment. The trailer to your feature looks fine though.

Keep trolling. Still no evidence of NR or sharpening being turned off with Eterna or F-log. Still no jaw droppingly clean GH5 footage at ISO 5000 from you.

Can someone, you or the hack Luke Mason, please back up those claims about the NR being turned off with Eterna or F-log? I haven't seen anything about, neither in the white papers or in the footage. Looks both sharpened and noise reduced to me. And yes, I did download the prores footage by Blackmagic and graded it in Resolve and you know what, it was FUCKING NOISY. Which was expected of course, just as when you shoot he Nikon at 8.000 with n-log.

Just stop. The Fuji will have a problem with waxy skin at ISO above 800 (not very film like) and the Blackmagic looks lackluster to me, extremely digital looking as you call it, from what I’ve seen. And that tiny sensor won’t make anyone happy shooting above 400 ISO. I did own the GH5 and would never ever use it above ISO 800. So please show me some of your ISO 5000 footage that looks so spectacular.

It’s so weird that you judge the z6 pre pre pre production footage at 8.000 iso shot with the highly untested n-log profile so harshly. To my eyes it looks a world better than anything I’ve seen from a smaller sensor camera at those sensitivities. Most impressive is the fact that it seems to hold up extremely well with regards to dynamic range and color information even at 8.000. Sure it’s got some noise, but do we even know if the footage was properly exposed according to the n-log gamma curve? Please take a fucking chill pill. I even doubt the BMPCC 4K will match the dynamic range in the day shots.

The night shots are at 8000 ISO as stated in the video. But the kicker is that the day shots were with Nikon flat profile @Geoff CB! Martin writes: “Simon, the night shots are in N-log with Atomos Ninja Inferno. The day shots are in flat profile, captured internally. Rolling shutter I haven’t noticed in these shots, but there surely will be substantial in faster panning - after all it’s a rolling shutter sensor.”

What’s up with all your uninformed guessing you’re passing off as knowledge here? The X-T2 does allow a -4 setting on noise reduction in photo mode and this by no means turns it off completely. Only the luma nr is affected, as previously reported. The aggressive chroma NR is still present when set to -4, resulting in that waxiness due to color bleeding when shooting at high iso. Why would the chroma noise reduction turn off in video but not stills mode? We all know this is a problem with the X-trans and jpeg and we all know the x-t2, x-h1 and x-t3 don’t shoot raw in video. But hopefully this problem is a lot less severe with the new codec and bitrate, as Andrew suggests, even though the problem is inherent with the sensor array in combination with noise reduction, not 8 bit vs. 10 bit.

That’s fucking crazy and might have stopped me from buying the x-t3