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I am definitely leaning toward the rapido all in package. I just dont know the quality of the schneider lens and there are not many examples online

Rapido and the Anamorphic store both sell full kits and the rapido full kit has the schneider cinelux 2x and one of the anamorphic store kits has the isco micro. Has anybody compared the two and can somebody please give me their opinion on which is better? I will be using contax zeiss and leica R as taking lenses.

That would be great. I can help with footage if you need as well and I'm sure others would also

Alex - would I be able to use the pocket 4K version on the URSA mini pro, if I used a color space transform to get to the pocket 4K first. Or does that not make any sense? I’m very eager to see how good URSA mini footage would look with this.

@Sage I know you have a lot of cameras on your list, from pocket 6k, to Panasonic s1/s1h but is there a chance you would ever make one for an Ursa Mini Pro? I would imagine since the image on the UMP is so good out the box, that your LUT would make it look real close to an Alexa.

I was thinking of picking up a pocket 4k again, just because they are dropping in price in the used market. This may push me over the edge. I know you spent a lot of time and effort on this, nice work! In your opinion do you think the pocket 6k image quality and color science is better or worse than the pocket 4k? I noticed a difference between the two when I had them.

Yeah I think modularity is a big one. I have been lukewarm on RED and their shadiness as of late - with their mini mags and their whole patent issues - but I do have to admit, the modularity of a RED is very appealing to me. Being able to just grab a camera with everything attached and with no cables dangling everywhere is what has always attracted me to them. Obviously, Komodo's price makes it something that hobbyist like me might be able to actually afford - but the lack of modularity doesn't make me as excited of owning a RED as its bigger brothers.

2020 is shaping up to be one of the more exciting years for cameras in recent memory - if a majority of the rumored cameras come out. We know for sure we will have the FX9, Canon C500 mark ii, Red Komodo, and Canon 1DX III. And there is a chance we get a good chunk of these rumored cameras finally released, being the FX6, A7S3 (finally?), Ursa Mini 8k, Fuji XT4, and GH6. I haven't heard many rumors of a Canon prosumer mirrorless camera with IBIS and good video specs - but if they continue to let folks like Red use their RF mount - that is a good start for their new mount. I am curious if folks like Blackmagic will start using it as well. The more competition the better, since all of us can reap the benefits.

Yeah man, whatever tools inspires you to create - that’s all that matters. All these cameras at this point are great, it’s up to what’s best for the user and their needs. Pocket 6k is a great camera, just not for me.

I got rid of my pocket 6k. The battery lasted 15 minutes and I couldn’t hand hold it without micro jitters. I prefer my bmcc 2.5k to the 6k anyways, more organic and filmic look to it. And though its a pain in the ass to use as well, I love the image. For modern cameras and everyday shooting I prefer the S1H even if its not RAW. If I wanted to rig a camera up like the pocket 6k, I would just buy an URSA mini pro, you can find them used in the $3k range and i prefer the image. I probably will get an URSA mini pro at some point next year, depends on what the Komodo and Sony FX6 are all about.

I know man. I get excited about prores raw, then I come back to reality and realize it wont work in resolve. I only work in resolve these days and use a Blackmagic mini panel for grading, so I have 0 interest in using any other NLE.

Slanted lens did a comparison to the pocket 6k, see below. My take away is (my personal opinion, doesn't have to be yours) that the S1H colors look better and skin tones look better. Both cameras are similar and this comparison proves that anybody who claims the pocket 6k "destroys" the S1H just because of its popularity and codec are drinking the kool aid. The fact that the S1H can go toe to toe against a raw format, while also having IBIS, better battery, swivel screen AND almost more importantly for hybrid shooters also be a legit stills camera is a huge selling point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rghbaHoVRsk

Lengthy review on newshooter - its crazy how much better the S1H looks than the A7 and Nikon camera in the talking head comparison video. Also, not sure I agree with him on the "Sterile" look, pocket 6k seems just as sterile if not more to me. Though, to his credit I have seen lots of footage with the S1H that can look sterile in the wrong hands. https://www.newsshooter.com/2019/11/11/panasonic-lumix-s1h-review/?fbclid=IwAR2RI5AXLl9Hlbqfir20uerkbnS8IdiI9oVd7ctgsP5WGJDJ-O3zMgJqgN0

Go away already

It’s odd - I get fanboy will be fanboys - but why is everyone on Facebook and reduser saying this is such great news? I mean even if you own a red, why wouldn’t you want to see compressed RAW in other products? Competition is a good thing and it gives consumers more choice. It’s like me celebrating that my S1H won a case that will allow them to be the only camera that can record to an SD card. Why would I celebrate that?

Here is an interesting one. For those of you that have an external recorder with an S1H, do you have the option to set 10 bit in the "HDMI Rec Output" menu, as shown in this video below? Me and another user from the facebook group don't have that option at all, doesn't even show up in the list. I am using the super expensive atomos HDMI 2.0 cable as well.

hm, you have a better GPU than me and I can playback fine in 6k. I am wondering what your playback resolution is within resolve? Maybe that could be causing it

firmware announced, but oddly no mention for S1H. Update notes do mention a fix for blue clipping in vlog and a fix for afterimage, which I believe is the ghosting issue seen by some. https://m.dpreview.com/news/0778308148/panasonic-adds-features-with-firmware-for-gh5-gh5s-g9-s1-and-s1r-with-particular-boost-for-g9-video

This is a creative art form we take on as filmmakers - I see nothing wrong with the approach by the filmmaker or the grade, if that was their vision.

Found this on the FB group. Shot on S1H with Leica R glass. The low contrast/low sat grade was the intention it seems. Dynamic range looks really good

Hey Mercer - hopefully you can keep it and make something. I have recently come to the conclusion that buying and selling is having a negative impact on my creativity. That may seem obvious, but I am slowly starting to just keep all my cameras and various systems and use them as tools for what they are good at when the time comes. I used to be really paranoid about having more than one camera brand - but now, I don't care - obviously if finances allow.

Not mine, but this was 90 percent shot on the original bmpcc with 1 lens

Possibly, but he praises the S1H colors and says he isn't fond of the pocket colors earlier in the thread, so not quite sure. Not trying to start a war and trying to keep things positive. But hearing the same issue brought up over and over again is constantly steering this thread into the same direction - one that none of us can do anything about.

Your positives about the S1H are everything I would want in a camera. Your negatives, which I have yet to encounter, should be fixed in a firmware update as they seem to be directly tied to VLOG, which is a positive since its something that could be fixed, similar to the GH5. With that said, you have brought up a valid concern - but you have brought it up over and over and over, to the point where we get it, but we are not Panasonic - you should be voicing this to them at this point in order to actually get it fixed. If you have already and they are aware, then you should give them time to fix it. There has yet to be a first real firmware out yet to even see if its addressed. To be clear, I have no issues at all with you voicing concerns that need to be fixed, nothing will get fixed if we are all silent. But you made your point and now you are just stating the same thing over and over again, in this forum, on facebook, on review sites, etc. I am not sure what you want out of it. Are you hoping Panasonic read and fix it? If so, why not just contact them? Lastly, I disagree with your notion of the pocket 6k or any of these mirrorless cameras, including the S1H, having an "organic" image. An organic image to me, would be an original Blackmagic pocket, Blackmagic micro, Blackmagic cinema 2.5. Those actually used a Fairchild sensor and had a nice organic look to it. You didn't need to add grain to those those cameras to make them look organic, it was organic out the box.

While we have you...are there plans to get prores raw support in resolve? Once the S1H gets support and Nikon (not holding my breath) gets it as well, it’s going to really suck to not have native support for prores raw in resolve. I think that an NLE of this popularity should support all possible codecs, regardless of politics, etc. I don’t want to have to use final cut just for prores raw and I’m sure many others feel the same way.