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I have never watched Netflix. I hardly have Ever watched TV in my whole life. Would rather read or be on the web. And I doubt the vast majority of people haven't watched Netflix either. They don't count LoL. ? ? Well I just looked up Netflix on Wiki and it seems like most people are at least subscribed to it. No wonder this country is so screwed up LoL. ?

I probably spend on average 14 hours a day on the web. I know I need to get a life. ? And a lot of it is on You Tube, and a reasonable amount on just about any site that jumps up news wise I look at. There is Hardly Any Cine looking videos on You Tube. Even ones that claim, Oh look at this Cinematic, Filmic look I got. Sure we hang out with people that are into the same thing, or some actually work in the business of video production. But that is a Freaking incredible small amount of people that produce videos content. We don't represent shit percentage wise. 99% of content on the web is Not Cinematic. I say the Cine look is maybe not dead, but it sure as hell is on life support. Sure I like it. Who doesn't like Philip Blooms stuff on here. But a lot of his stuff is Slo Mo hell, and I just F ing don't like a lot of Slo Mo stuff. I hate it going on, and on, and on. And his stuff does. And he is not alone. It has it's place, but not the whole god damn video. To me that is what Cine has become. A lot of grain, Super shallow DoF, and Slo Mo. I am not much into that anymore , and I don't think the average person was ever into it. I see no trend to go back to film, no going back to SD. I would be amazed if you could ever get a Cine look out of 8K HDR footage. And that is where video is going like it or not. I think people need to change gears and learn HDR if you want to survive. Young people couldn't give a rats ass about the Cine Look. Smartphones probably produce 98% of all Videos and Photos in the world now. And they sure as hell are not on average Cinematic. And people are watching content on a HDR 60" TV, not going to movie theaters. Most of the content on TV is far from Cine looking. Sure the big movies are but even a lot of them are not dripping with a Film look like they used to have. Most TV content is shot with a Sony anymore. They are not as Cine looking as a Arri would be.

Yeah but how many of those young people that bought the PK4 are actually going to keep it very long. That is the real question. I would bet the majority get tired of it and dump it sooner than later just like people did with the original. Probably not because of the output, but for the pain in the ass it will be to use.

I don't really know. Al these cameras are good today. I am just not so much into the PK4 to be honest. I like the look but I don't. I guess I have gotten lazy in my old age. I really like the look of a Canon C100 in WDR. Looks good ooc and needs very little work in post. I have sort of given up trying to make me happy with the output, I am more geared to what other people I might show it to, or who just happens to click on it on the web are looking for. And I think what I Used to like is not the look that is in now, or hell maybe was never in to the masses? I know you sort of are supposed to please yourself, but making others happy is maybe the paramount goal here, and I think the times are a changing as they say..

I happen to like that look or I would not have posted it. I bought my new iPhone XS for the same reason. And I like the Osmo Pocket because of it. And I would imagine the vast majority of people that buy a video camera would prefer the look of the above video to most of what I have seen from the PK4. You are behind the times, in a day or two it will be 2019. The Cine look is dead. HDR, HLG is about as far away from a Cine look you can get. 6K, 8K is Not going to have a Cine look to it. It will be sharp as a tack. The new Smartphones, the Osmo Pocket, GoPro's, the new Action Movies are all sharp as hell for a reason. It is what people want. And that above video has that look. You bought the wrong damn camera I am afraid my friend. You are behind the times. You done screwed up. Such misguidance on your part. ?

He is not afraid of grain or noise in his stuff either. I think he actually takes advantage of it. He is a wiz at grading, editing no doubt. I think one of his strong points is he seems to always be willing to take his time to get it right. He is meticulous.

Z Cam E2 before and after. Not my footage. Looks to me you can get what you want out of it. Cine looking or sharp as a tack. YMMV. Damn good looking footage for 120fps 4K. https://drive.google.com/file/d/14rY5wSA5X3Esw57ZyQitaqKX55hvMUJ-/view

I found an interesting item to help record Rap, or well... other stuff. https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/GOMIXERPRO--roland-gomixer-pro

Hell yes it is LoL.

Real men don't use proxies. That is Girly stuff. ?

Well on paper it does. Not seen in the flesh yet. But sure there is going to be breakthroughs that we can't even imagine. But the newer sensors are going to have to be 36mp or more just to be able to do 8K which is like a bit more than 33mp. No choice in the matter going forward. I doubt the new a7s is going to shoot 8k, but it might downsample from 8k

Yeah but the A7 mk III is "only" 24mp. Look how the A7r mk III and the Nikon Z7 are. They are worse. The Z6 is better because it is only 24mp, probably the same sensor that is in the A7 mk III with some Nikon changes. But you only really need a little over a 8mp sensor to do 4K. Same with the Fuji X-T3. Small sensor size of 26mp..

Yeah but more resolution means smaller pixels, which means worse low light. That is the problem with most Hybrids. There is always a trade off, and usually the video side is the loser. That is why pure Cine cameras always win out. Most of them has crazy low resolution.

This one seems to be about as good of one you can get. Gets lots of likes. Never owned one though myself. Don't buy a Manfrotto one. They just seem to suck as of late. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1305532-REG/sirui_sup424sr_carbon_fiber_monopod.html Or this one if you want to have the head with it. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1352784-REG/sirui_p426sr_vh10x_10x_carbon_fiber_6.html

What camera body are you talking about using them on?

Boy right now I can't even afford the Osmo Pocket LoL. I am sort of interested in this Z E2 thing a bit to be honest. I like what they are doing with it. God there is so many damn good cameras out now. I'll be honest I really do like the GH5s. Just too damn expensive, and hardly any used ones around. I will just have to wait and see what comes up down the road money wise for me. I really need to buy stuff that is used for my income. I really have no way to make extra money. I have to sell something to buy something. No money for multiple toys LoL..

Yeah but he gets around the world a lot. He is an interesting person. I would not have taken him for a Teetotal. I Knew something was off about him LoL. ? Sort of like the old joke, I was thinking I had a drinking problem, so to solve it I gave up thinking.

Sounds like you have been drinking a bit too much Ouzo LoL. ?

It is kind of amazing to me that BMD screwed up another launch. Surely they had a clue on the pre orders that they needed a Lot of them manufactured? I would like to know how many people that buy one will actually keep it, or give up pretty fast and re sell them. There were a lot of the original ones that changed hands a lot. BMD cameras are not for everyone that is for sure. Not BMD's fault really. Cine cameras have very few auto anything in them. You sort of Have to know what you are doing to make them happen. And also not too many people that buy one is going to have the Computer Horsepower to even edit the footage, and the storage to hold it. I think a lot of them down the road will be on ebay, Amazon to be honest. Shame really.

Wow cheap price on this CFast card. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1191367-REG/lexar_lc256crbna3500_256gb_pro_cfast_2_0.htmlfbclid=IwAR14QH-nJGPT8kYeidRl00vchqIUrCpj9oRlKzptb7edmo3IxgTBX1dkhSA

Wow that looks nice. Just about a perfect exposure.

Set it to infinity @ f16 and shoot mountains very far away. Perfect AF every time. ?

I am sure they do. But I would imagine most people would not be to keen at taking one apart to replace the part, and the cost to have Sony do it would be, well pretty expensive I bet! Not counting they would have your camera for 2 months probably before you get it back. I still think it is a great buy for that money. Especially if there is some grace period where you can use it for, and send it back if it looks like a truck ran over it. ? A FS7 is pretty much a no excuses camera, and Pro looking as hell.

Well you can't see the monitor out in bright sun, and you can't see it up on a tripod,, so I would say for me the built in monitor would be as useless as tits on a boar hog. And you are going to need a battery pack. And unless you win the Lotto you are going to need an external SSD instead of 5 CFast cards. And a good microphone holder, on and on. So that means a cage. It needs built out just like the Z cam E2 does. So you end up with a big lump of a rig that cost 2500 bucks. The Osmo Pocket is looking better every day! ? Now if you want to run around naked in your house, with a naked PK4 handheld, with the curtains drawn, taking 20 second clips, of ehh, naked people well sure the damn thing works right out of the box LoL. ?