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Yeah but what is crazy is the GH5s can shoot up to 192fps without cropping the sensor, anything above that up to 240fps it has a slight sensor crop. But up to 240fps! Impressive. So it is not the sensor in the PK4, it is a sensor processing problem. Too much data to handle I guess with it''s Codec. I don't get why there is so much dislike for the GH5s on this site. It does just about everything you could want. You can put a Speedbooster on it and be a bit larger than s35. So it is a modern day, even better for slo mo camera than a Sony FS700 in a tiny package compared to it. And used they are damn near the same money. And FS700 Color Science is pretty damn terrible to be honest.

Out of likes. Wow that is some pretty serious DR! Great footage.

It is not really 1.8. More like 1.7. What the hell is that difference. Like unless it is side by side you would never know the difference. Canon has a zillion different Focal Lengths to use to make it up. Somehow m4/3, BMPCC cameras seem to be able to shoot video with an even as big or bigger crop. Canon color is Way more accepted as the gold standard than any other camera by miles and miles. I have Never seen a Fuji at a sporting event, a press event. They have it sewed up like them or not. If you are going into business as a Photo, Video user you are probably going all in with Canon gear. Now for balls out Cine stuff sure Arri is your cup of tea if you have the money to throw at it all out. For mere mortals it is going to be a C100, C300. .Also seems like every Cine camera in the world is going FF. Seems like somebody thinks DoF is a big deal. About every 3rd thread on here is knocking m4/3 or something about how it sucks for DoF, or how they are using a SB and a expensive 0.95 lens to get DoF. With DPAF you can probably get away with a f1.2 lens at times now on FF. I agree with Andrew's assessment on the EOS R. It is in reality a damn good overall camera, warts and all. It somehow gets the job done, lagging behind or not. I am not buying one, too expensive for me. I would, might go the PK4 route when the true reviews come out. and I bet you will be able to buy a used one cheap 3 months down the road. It is not a good camera for many people truth be known. But yeah for the money the Fuji X-T3 is a great buy, IF you have lenses for it. Starting from scratch.ehh not so sure.

Yeah but the X-T3 ends up about the same crop as the EOS R does in 4K. And you have Canon colors, DPAF, and it appears somehow half decent electronic stabilization , not counting 50 million half cheap lenses. Is it great, well heck no, but it is probably better at Photos than the Fuji. Sure it is more money. But with Fuji lenses they sort of Only work on a Fuji. You can use Canon lenses on about anything anymore. I can't see a person gaining that much going Fuji in the long run. There is No upward mobility if you are serious about video. I am not saying it is a bad camera, it is just a odd duck to be honest for the average person to go to if you don't have a sack full of Fuji lenses laying around. I think for the average person the EOS R is probably the way to go. Canon is just stupid as of late, but damn it their stuff somehow just works for video like them or not. They don't have one camera, cheap or expensive, that you can't get some damn good, pretty footage out of, shit Codec, or Killer Codec.. And if you are a Pro photographer you are probably shooting with a Canon. Now the Sony A7 mk III is a good option I think also. Sony color has gotten way better. I think the A7s mk III is going to be a breakthrough camera with a breakthrough price sad to say.

Does Anyone shoot Anything in normal speeds anymore? Jesus what is the deal with trying to see if Anything is worth a crap on a camera at 120p Slo Mo. Sam Peckinpah is alive and well.

Did you expect it to look like an Arri Alexa for 1400 bucks if it is real footage? I thought it looked pretty good. In this day and age about anything can look pretty good with skill. I have not seen any camera other than your C200 frame grab, a few PK4 Raw footage, and some original BMPCC, even some ML Canon stuff which was probably shot in Raw, that is worth taking about that is great. So I guess the take away is if it is not shot in Raw it is not too shit hot. A iPhone, a Panny G7, a GH5, a X-T3, Z7 etc. can all pretty much look alike, and actually does to be honest. And to add fuel to the fire you have to be pretty damn good to even edit, grade Raw. Most people on average suck at it, me included. So the average persons footage is going to look well... Average. Imagine my surprise. Take away, shoot with what you have, and be happy. Because unless you are skilled as hell it ALL looks alike no matter what it is shot on. So just save your money, shoot with what you got.

I still have a EPL1. I paid 44 dollars for it about 4 years ago on Amazon. Great camera for photos. Really weak IF filter in them. Only 720p on the video side. Even has IBIS in it.

Yeah never thought about it that way LoL. Olympus in the end just seems to give cameras away. I have no clue how they make money. Even Endoscopes are becoming a thing of a past with better imaging. I don't see how they can last.

I would rather hear waves and seagulls to be honest. Old Sailor thing I guess.

Just goes to show with skill you can get great results using just about anything. They are less than 500 bucks on Amazon.

Really??

Boo, Hissssssssss. I loved the sound of the large reel tapes. But they did get noisy if you played them a lot of times. I lucked out and sold about 150 of them on ebay, mostly Jazz, Blues stuff before they turned to dust about 12 years ago. Some were from when I was in the Navy from 1966. Some woman for Chicago bought most of them. I think I sold them for over 1000 dollars to her. I had a Beatles one I got 150 dollars for alone, Rubber Soul. I had a Roberts 770x. That thing had been All over the world. Bought it as the PX store in Naples in 66 for like 275 Dollars. I just threw it away about 6 years ago. Damn thing weighed 50 pounds. That machine made a lot of people happy.

Yeah the original Canon 5D made a Lot of wedding photographers a Lot of money that is for sure. Some probably still use it. I just sold mine about 2 years ago.

Now that would be fun on a paid shoot.

Well instead of Black Hole Sun we now have Red Hole Sun. Damn now Every video, or shot I look at I am looking for it. It just F ing ruins the viewing experience of it now.

Sort of makes my Sony A7s RS look good LoL. ?

Oh my God how can you give up a M9 Monochrome! ?

Very true. But yes, it is about grading, doing any Green, Blue Screen , VFX stuff. When you submit any footage you are not sure what they will want from it, or do with it when you hand it over. At some point soon all these cameras will have 10 bit 4.2.2 at a minimum because now just about anyone of them Is capable of being able to do Broadcast Output, unlike 6, 7 years ago.

Yeah there was talk of that on a thread about 3 months ago on here. You Had to basically buy the Atomos HDMI cable to make it happen. I had the same problem if you remember with a Mimi HDMI when I tried to update my firmware on my A7s. I had to go buy a 20 dollar Samsung mini HDMI, the 3 of them I Had at home, none worked. They are missing a wire in the cheap ones, and the connectors don't really make good contact to start with.

Hmm, I don't see it happening. But if it does it would be amazing. I guess that is sort of happening in the GH5. But that is why you need a C Type connection for the PK4. It won't pass fast enough on HDMI. But I guess I am wrong. It can be done. http://www.studiodaily.com/2018/09/new-mirrorless-cameras-serious-4k-10-bit-422-output-hdr-via-hdmi/

It Ain't happening, not until the come out with a whole new version of HDMI, which won't be included in any existing camera..

Or Battery life, or Flippy Screen, or Anamorphic, or a EVF, or, 240fps, on and on. It is a pretty damn good option, and now not a lot more than the cost of a PK4. The PK4 is not going to be some fast action, move around camera. It is going to be a turd to setup and tear down, on sticks a lot machine. Now nothing wrong with that. But the GH5s is a Lot more of a mobile camera, with a lot less needed to make it happen. Sure the PK4 will probably have a better output, but at what cost and convenience to get it. Really would be nice to have both. It could be done I guess. I can see a lot of the PK4's being resold for a pretty good price down the road. It is not a camera that works in reality for a lot of people. And to editing BRAW, sure it is space saving as heck, but it still is something you have to edit big time. That will not be easy to do for a lot of people. If you want the best sure go PK4 for output, but for just getting the job done and moving on, the GH5s is going to be the way to go over the BM.

Space music is killer to listen to. But it is easy as heck to make. I have had a ton of synths, keyboards, and did tons of tracks of space music. It is relaxing stuff.

That lens will probably be 2000 Dollars or more.

There are no distortion corrections on the PK4 that I know of. So I am sure it is not so hot.