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I never said no one but Pros, I said "other than Pros I doubt many people buy primes anymore". Sort of a different meaning. In the college town I live in I haven't seen a real camera, even parents with their students, for years. It is Smartphones, and even that not many out often taking photos or video. I guess the students would think that would look dorky. Teeny Bopper stuff. Now walking down the street with one looking at the screen, yeah pretty big time on that!

Just shoot Everything in Anamorphic and you will never see it! ?

I would agree with that, but add that IBIS has really changed how Good of a shot you can get compared to what you got when the MP race started. It is pretty hard to hand hold a 36mp sensor or higher with Only lens OIS. I look back at a lot of my Sony A7r photos @ say 50% enlargement and hmm, some of them are not so great. IBIS is probably the best thing to come along in years. I don't even own a camera with it now, and if I buy the BM PK4 it wont have it either, but it is a shame more cameras don't have it. It would appear that Nikon has found a way to lock the sensor for travel, so that seems like maybe a fix for future cameras to have their cake and eat it too.

That is true.. but what, I am suppose to go to the guys house and watch it on his Monitor LoL? ?

And how long ago was those 5 years?

Yeah in this day and age other than Pros I doubt many people buy primes anymore.

Yeah those moves are probably good for Nikon in the long run, but not so good for the buyers of Z cameras in the short run. ? Some tough decisions for the first people to buy them. They seem to be a dream come true in some areas, and a wow this is not so hot on other points. I am sure some can be corrected by firmware, but the oh boy ones are going to have to be on the Next versions, and with Nikon's track record on rolling out new stuff, well that could be an Oh Boy moment. I guess a lot of it boils down to how big is your wallet. Do I risk it or not.

Down where it says Z Mount. https://***URL removed***/reviews/nikon-z7-first-impressions-review/2

Surprised which one he is going to put in his bag the most. Both damn impressive. Codec still a little weak. You can it it on the tight pans. But for the money, man gets the job done.

I think the Z7 is too expensive too boot. Ehh, completely new lenses is no small task. But man one of them is seriously expensive.

Well it was honest you have to admit that. Imagine my surprise it has warts. But they put everything but the kitchen sink to top Sony, and If they get the kinks out it is a top contender. Now as a Video monster I guess we will have to see, but it is lacking in mbs, and that may be a not so good decision down the road. But for a first effort like I said, they did what they Had to do, and try to top Sony. Some places they have, and on the Pro front I think they have failed. But a heck of a lot more average people buy cameras than Pros, so they probably took the safe way out at the start. I think they made the right choice for now. They probably will have a Z8 out down the road to compete with the A9 and make the Pros happy.

Oh I would argue Rec.709, BT.709, which has been steadily updated from the original Rec Rec. BT.601-5 in 1995, is an amazing color space for what little DR it has. It just goes to show what "very smart people can do with digital signal processing". It is surprisingly pretty darn good looking even on a 4K TV. On a small screen in our home less is required than most people think. Oh no doubt Rec.2020 will be the Standard in the near future, and we will wonder how we could have watched stuff in Rec.709. ?

From Arri website. "The Dual Gain Architecture simultaneously provides two separate read-out paths from each pixel with different amplification. The first path contains the regular, highly amplified signal. The second path contains a signal with lower amplification, to capture the information that is clipped in the first path. Both paths feed into the camera's A/D converters, delivering a 14 bit image for each path. These images are then combined into a single 16 bit high dynamic range image".

And it Has SLog 2, SLog 3 in camera. So It might do 13 in SLog 3, less in SLog 2. I don't doubt the Nikon will do 12 1/2 external. But without N Log it is not going to do 13 stops or more internal just like the D750 can't either. The flat profile in the D750 was no where near as exotic as Sony SLog 3. They all exaggerate their numbers. But Blackmagic is claiming 12 1/2 stops on the PK4 and I can actually believe that will be true.

He had that video on here Years ago. It was well, a stretch then to be kind, and it still is.

Well @Django @Young think you did. And I don't watch your stuff anymore.

So you are saying that the D750 has as much DR as the Red and only 1 or less stops than a Arri Alexa. Wonderful. https://www.provideocoalition.com/epic_vs_alexa_dynamic_range/

Yeah never mind your goofy 13+ stops theory also.

You are as guilty as the company's that lie about their DR also. It isn't even 12 real stops. Sure I can pretend anything is anything.

I think you are full of shit on some of your tests. It defies Physics. So there. If you think I am going to believe that a D750 had 13 + stops, real stops, then you are crazier than I thought. An A7s in SLog2 doesn't even have13 + plus real stops!

And you really believe him? You really, really do, than a camera that Has ProRes and Raw @10, 12 bit is worse?

It doesn't have an internal Log, and it is 8bit, an outdated Codec, and only 24mps @ 30p and you think it is going to get over 13 + stops internally?? Really? Well why the hell would Anybody ever buy this New BM PK4? It is Only 12.5 to13 as BM is stating it stops wise.

Yeah and No internal N-Log is sort of crazy also. They had made this camera where you kind of Have to buy an external recorder if you want any sort of good DR. And then they are talking like 12 stops, pretty good but not great either. I mean it has some really nice stuff in it, but where it really counts, DR, and a thicker Codec you are not going to have a small package, and you are going to shell out some pretty big bucks between the two to make it happen. But it is a huge plus for Nikon to even offer it at all, I will give them that. It will be a hit for them no doubt. A few firmware updates and it might be sorted out a bit more also. Damn good for a first try.

Oh boy!

Not sure if anyone has posted all the specs?? Specifications: TypeMirrorless Lens mountNikon Z mount Effective angle of viewFX (full-frame) Image sensorCMOS, 35.9 mm x 23.9 mm Total pixels46.89 million Dust-reduction systemImage Dust Off reference data (requires Capture NX-D); image sensor cleaning. Effective pixels45.7 million Image size (pixels)FX (36x24) image area, (L) 8256 x 5504 (45.4 million), (M) 6192 x 4128 ( 25.6 million), (S) 4128 x 2752 (11.4 million). DX (24x16) image area, (L) 5408 x 3600 (19.5 million), (M) 4048 x 2696 (10.9 million), (S) 2704 x 1800 (4.9 million). 5 : 4 (30x24) image area, (L) 6880 x 5504 (37.9 million), (M) 5152 x 4120 (21.2 million), (S) 3440 x 2752 (9.5 million). 1 :1 (24x24) image area, (L) 5504 x 5504 (30.3 million), (M) 4128 x 4128 (17.0 million), (S) 2752 x 2752 (7.6 million). 16 : 9 (36x20) image area, (L) 8256 x 4640 (38.3 million), (M) 6192 x 3480 (21.5 million), (S) 4128 x 2320 (9.6 million). Photographs taken during movie recording at a frame size of 3840 x 2160: 3840 x 2160. Photographs taken during movie recording at other frame sizes: 1920 x 1080. Storage file formatsNEF (RAW): 12 or 14 bit (lossless compressed, compressed, or uncompressed); large, medium, and small available (medium and small images are recorded at a bit depth of 12 bits using lossless compression). TIFF (RGB). JPEG: JPEG-Baseline compliant with fine (approx. 1 : 4), normal (approx. 1 : 8), or basic (approx. 1 : 16) compression; optimal quality compression available. NEF (RAW)+JPEG: Single photograph recorded in both NEF (RAW) and JPEG formats. Picture Control SystemAuto, Standard, Neutral, Vivid, Monochrome, Portrait, Landscape, Flat. Creative Picture Controls (Dream, Morning, Pop, Sunday, Somber, Dramatic, Silence, Bleached, Melancholic, Pure, Denim, Toy, Sepia, Blue, Red, Pink, Charcoal, Graphite, Binary, Carbon); selected Picture Control can be modified; storage for custom Picture Controls. Card slot1 XQD card File systemDCF 2.0, Exif 2.31, PictBridge Viewfinder1.27-cm/0.5-in. approx. 3690k-dot (Quad VGA) OLED with color balance and auto and 11-level manual brightness controls Frame coverageApprox. 100% horizontal and 100% vertical MagnificationApprox. 0.8× (50 mm lens at infinity, -1.0 m-1) Eyepoint21 mm (-1.0 m-1; from center surface of viewfinder eyepiece lens) Diopter adjustment-4 to +2 m-1 Eye sensorAutomatically switches between monitor and viewfinder displays Compatible lensesZ mount NIKKOR lenses. F mount NIKKOR lenses with mount adapter; restrictions may apply. Shutter typeElectronically-controlled vertical-travel focal-plane mechanical shutter; electronic front-curtain shutter; electronic shutter. Shutter speed1/8000 to 30 s in steps of 1/3 or 1/2 EV, bulb, time, X200 Flash sync speedX=1/200 s; synchronizes with shutter at 1/200 s or slower; Auto FP High-Speed sync supported Release modeSingle frame, low-speed continuous, high-speed continuous, high-speed continuous (extended), self-timer Frame advance rateUp to 9 fps. Low-speed continuous: 1 to 5 fps. High-speed continuous: 5.5 fps (14-bit NEF/RAW: 5 fps). High-speed continuous (extended): 9 fps (14-bit NEF/RAW: 8 fps). (measured under Nikon-specified test conditions) Self-timer2 s, 5 s, 10 s, 20 s; 1 to 9 exposures at intervals of 0.5, 1, 2, or 3 s Exposure meteringTTL exposure metering Metering methodMatrix metering. Center-weighted metering: Weight of 75% given to 12 mm circle in center of frame; weighting can instead be based on average of entire frame. Spot metering: Meters 4 mm circle (about 1.5% of frame) centered on selected focus point. Highlight-weighted metering. Metering range (ISO 100, f/1.4 lens, 20 °C/68 °F)–3 to +17 EV (ISO 100, f/2.0 lens, 20 °C/68 °F) Exposure meter couplingCPU ModeAuto; programmed auto with flexible program (P); shutter-priority auto (S); aperture-priority auto (A); manual (M); user settings (U1, U2, U3) Exposure compensation–5 to +5 EV in increments of 1/3 or 1/2 EV available in modes P, S, A, and M Exposure lockLuminosity locked at detected value ISO sensitivityISO 64 to 25600 in steps of 1/3 or 1/2 EV. Can also be set to approx. 0.3, 0.5, 0.7, or 1 EV (ISO 32 equivalent) below ISO 64 or to approx. 0.3, 0.5, 0.7, 1, or 2 EV (ISO 102400 equivalent) above ISO 25600; auto ISO sensitivity control available Active D-LightingCan be selected from Auto, Extra high, High, Normal, Low, or Off Multiple exposureAdd, average, lighten, darken Other optionsHDR (high dynamic range), photo mode flicker reduction Autofocus493 points (phase-detection, in single-point AF) / 90% coverage vertically & horizontally. Hybrid phase-detection/contrast AF with AF assist. Detection range-1 to +19 EV (-4 to +19 EV with low-light AF) Lens servoAutofocus (AF): Single-servo AF (AF-S), Continuous-servo AF (AF-C), full-time AF (AF-F; available only in movie mode); predictive focus tracking. Manual focus (M): Electronic rangefinder can be used Focus points493 (single-point AF) AF-area modePinpoint, single-point, and dynamic-area AF (pinpoint and dynamic-area AF available in photo mode only); wide-area AF (S); wide-area AF (L); auto-area AF Focus lockFocus can be locked by pressing shutter-release button halfway (single-servo AF) or by pressing the center of the sub-selector Camera VR5-axis image sensor shift Lens VRLens shift (available with VR lenses) Flash controlTTL: i-TTL flash control; i-TTL balanced fill-flash is used with matrix, center-weighted, and highlight-weighted metering, standard i-TTL fill-flash with spot metering Flash modesFront-curtain sync, slow sync, rear-curtain sync, red-eye reduction, red-eye reduction with slow sync, slow rear-curtain sync, off Flash compensation-3 to +1 EV in steps of 1/3 or 1/2 EV available in modes P, S, A, and M Flash-ready indicatorLights when optional flash unit is fully charged; flashes as underexposure warning after flash is fired at full output Accessory shoeISO 518 hot-shoe with sync and data contacts and safety lock Nikon Creative Lighting Systemi-TTL flash control, radio-controlled Advanced Wireless Lighting, optical Advanced Wireless Lighting, modeling illumination, FV lock, Color Information Communication, Auto FP High-Speed Sync, unified flash control White balanceAuto (3 types), natural light auto, direct sunlight, cloudy, shade, incandescent, fluorescent (7 types), flash, choose color temperature (2500 K to 10,000 K), preset manual (up to 6 values can be stored), all except choose color temperature with fine-tuning Bracketing typesExposure, Flash, White balance, ADL Movie - meteringTTL exposure metering using main image sensor Movie - metering methodMatrix, center-weighted, or highlight-weighted Movie - frame size (pixels) and frame rate3840 x 2160 (4K UHD); 30p (progressive), 25p, 24p. 1920 x 1080; 120p, 100p, 60p, 50p, 30p, 25p, 24p. 1920×1080 (slow-mo); 30p ×4, 25p ×4, 24p ×5. Actual frame rates for 120p, 100p, 60p, 50p, 30p, 25p, and 24p are 119.88, 100, 59.94, 50, 29.97, 25, and 23.976 fps respectively; quality selection available at all sizes except 3840 x 2160, 1920 x 1080 120p/100p, and 1920 x 1080 slow-mo, when quality is fixed at high. Movie - file formatMOV , MP4 Movie - video compressionH.264/MPEG-4 Advanced Video Coding Movie - audio recording formatLinear PCM , AAC Movie - audio recording deviceBuilt-in stereo or external microphone with attenuator option; sensitivity adjustable Movie - ISO sensitivityAuto: Auto ISO sensitivity control (ISO 64 to 25600). P, S, A: Auto ISO sensitivity control (ISO 64 to Hi 2) with selectable upper limit. M: Auto ISO sensitivity control (ISO 64 to Hi 2) available with selectable upper limit; manual selection (ISO 64 to 25600 in steps of 1/3 or 1/2 EV) with additional options available equivalent to approximately 0.3, 0.5, 0.7, 1, or 2 EV (ISO 102400 equivalent) above ISO 25600. Movie - Active D-LightingCan be selected from Same as photo settings, Extra high, High, Normal, Low, or Off Movie - Other optionsTime-lapse movies, electronic vibration reduction, time codes, movie log output (N-Log) Monitor8 -cm ( 3.2 –in.) diagonal. Tilting TFT touch-sensitive LCD with 170° viewing angle, approximately 100% frame coverage, and color balance and 11-level manual brightness controls. Approx. 2100 k-dot. PlaybackFull-frame and thumbnail (4, 9, or 72 images) playback with playback zoom, playback zoom cropping, movie playback, photo and/or movie slide shows, histogram display, highlights, photo information, location data display, picture rating, and auto image rotation. USBType C connector (SuperSpeed USB). Connection to built-in USB port is recommended. HDMI outputType C HDMI connector Audio inputStereo mini-pin jack (3.5 mm diameter; plug-in power supported) Audio outputStereo mini-pin jack (3.5 mm diameter) Accessory terminal(s)Can be used with MC-DC2 and other optional accessories Wi-Fi (Wireless LAN) standardsIEEE 802.11b/g/n/a/ac Wi-Fi (Wireless LAN) operating frequency2412 to 2462 MHz (channel 11) and 5180 to 5320 MHz Wi-Fi (Wireless LAN) maximum output power2.4 GHz band: 7.0 dBm. 5 GHz band: 12.1 dBm Wi-Fi (Wireless LAN) securityAuthentication: Open system, WPA2-PSK Wi-Fi (Wireless LAN) range (line of sight)Approximately 10 m (32 ft) without interference; range may vary with signal strength and presence or absence of obstacles Bluetooth standardsCommunication protocols: Bluetooth Specification Version 4.2; Operating frequency: Bluetooth: 2402 to 2480 MHz; Bluetooth Low Energy: 2402 to 2480 MHz Supported languagesArabic, Bengali, Bulgarian, Chinese (Simplified and Traditional), Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hindi, Hungarian, Indonesian, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Marathi, Norwegian, Persian, Polish, Portuguese (Portugal and Brazil), Romanian, Russian, Serbian, Spanish, Swedish, Tamil, Telugu, Thai, Turkish, Ukrainian, Vietnamese BatteryOne EN-EL15b rechargeable Li-ion battery; EN-EL15a/EN-EL15 can also be used, but note that fewer pictures can be taken on a single charge and that charging AC adapter can be used to charge EN-EL15b batteries only AC adapterEH-5c/EH-5b AC adapter (requires EP-5B power connector, which is available separately) Tripod socket1/4–in. (ISO 1222) Dimensions (W x H x D)Approx. 134 x 100.5 x 67.5 mm (5.3 x 4 x 2.7 in.) WeightApprox. 675 g (1 lb. 7.9 oz.) with battery and memory card but without body cap; approx. 585 g/1 lb. 4.7 oz. (camera body only) Operating environment - temperature0 °C to 40 °C (+32 °F to 104 °F) Operating environment - humidity85% or less (no condensation) Supplied accessoriesBF-N1 Body Cap, DK-29 Rubber Eyecup (comes attached to camera), EN-EL15b Rechargeable Li-ion, Battery with terminal cover, MH-25a Battery Charger (comes with either an AC wall adapter or power cable of a type and shape that varies with the country or region of sale), AN-DC19 Strap, EH-7P Charging AC Adapter (supplied with a plug adapter attached in countries or regions where required; shape depends on country of sale), HDMI/USB Cable Clip, UC-E24 USB Cable, BS-1 Accessory Shoe Cover.