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Yeah if I had the money I would have a new Oly EM1 mk II tomorrow. The IBIS in them is crazy good, and so is the Photo Colors on them. Hardly and Post needed for them at all. I miss my old EM1. Now I don't know a lot about the video output on the EM! mk II? I had a EM5 mk I for a bit with the battery grip and it was just too small for my hands buttons, dials wise. But it was a nice camera for the money no doubt. The EM1 seemed a lot better for me.

Premium Certified and £7.99 doesn't seem to go together LoL . I don't know about that. Yeah and if it fails right in the middle of a shoot, ehh not so sure about one that cheap. There has to be some middle ground. I thinking about it.

Yeah it is Only 1500 bucks, not bad. You are not going to get a 40 thousand dollar Cooke lens for 1500 dollars. So a lot better than nothing, or trying to have some Frankenstein setup hanging off the taking lens. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1413511-REG/sigma_slra65133x_anamorphot_65_1_33x_anamorphic_adapter.html

There IS a reason people buy faster lenses. https://***URL removed***/forums/thread/4213053

Your making it damn hard for me not to buy a EOS M LoL. Well done. So what does that 15-45mm end up being using ML focal length wise?

Andrew's House??? ?

Did you buy one of the first he made?? Did you even put a deposit on it?

You weren't there I was. So end of story.

Well I was involved in buying one. So I know a few more facts about Red then than most do in the early days. He had talked about making the camera for Years before he ever started the company just like anyone would do. I have owned 3 company's. 2 of them Incorporated. You don't just start up a company one day and the next day start making B1 Bombers. Sure it was a rush job when he went public. Every new Enterprise is a Cluster F..k in at the start.

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.

What did he want for it??

Yeah that is easily half the normal price to rent a good Anamorphic. Nice.

I think everybody in the world would still be shooting film other than news groups that need a super fast turnaround. But Film cameras, good ones are heavy as heck with the bigger reels on them, and the killer was the cost of the film and the development cost. And editing was not fun either. It was all big and clunky, but sure I don't think you can beat it if you can stand all the cost and hassle it invoked. It was scary as hell shooting it. You Never knew what you really had untill you got it back, and you never even knew if it was ruined until they called you to say, well it is all blank, sorry, but you still owe us the development cost LoL!! Oh yeah it was Really fun times back then. Hell no I am not going back. Color was not too bad to shoot, now B&W it had better be spot on, or your goose was cooked.?

Well he had paid for them about 10 times over on rentals. And you can the rapid deprecation on them and get a 1/3 or more of your money you paid for them back in 3 to 4 years. And he was a good friend of mine. I had bought and rented a lot of stuff from him before. So he got me a few times also.

I went back to what I knew the best. A Sony HDW-F900R CineAlta ENG camera. A friend of mine made me a deal on a pair of them I could not resist from his rental stock. Same camera that Shot Star Wars 1. Every rental house in the world bought 10 of them figuring they could rent them till the cows come home, which, well they did. If it was good enough for George Lucas well it was good enough for Bob LoL. By then they were getting long in the tooth and they were cheap in a sense. I think I paid 11 grand for the pair if I remember with total kits thrown. lot of hours on them but they are built to last. He even threw in a Sony Studio monitor. Pretty much turn key. I had tripods and lighting. I had one beat up playback machine for the tapes no one wanted it, it was one of those 50 pound units TV studios used. God I hated that thing moving it. Think I paid like 800 bucks for it. I did my editing at the local TV station. Old friend of mine that worked there would pretend like it was station footage and I got it for free at times! They were still using the format. Hell they still were using Beta SP a bit. I was only doing local TV ads with it so it worked out fine at 24fps 1080p HD with the extra card in it. Slo Mo was interlaced on it but they was not something I did a lot. It made me some damn good money and looked Pro as hell, which it was. So I used them as A and B cameras at the same time often. That was my main problem was I really needed a matching pair of something for easy editing. Editing was not too hard as it was only 15, 30, 1 minute spots. So you didn't have much footage to edit, but you might have to do 20 takes LoL. Some people sucked ass on at hitting their spots and doing lines, really bad. Jesus LoL. Some of them you could not shut them up! It ain't a 5 minute Ad LoL. It was pretty easy with good repeat customers. Went quick. Fast good money. Setups, tear downs were the main pain in the ass about it though. That got old quick. But I had it down to a science. I never did it at home or in a studio. it was at their locality. It looks a lot more genuine like that. Really the Red probably would not have worked because of at the time only RED CF, no Red Mags at the start. So no long takes using that then, and I was not really sure what I was gong to use for a B cam. I sure could not afford two whole Red One kits that's for sure. So things worked out I guess. I sort of gave up the whole video thing a few years later. I bought out a Excavating company and put all my money in that. I grossed Millions and made thousands LoL. I had 2 million dollars worth of equipment at one time, and I had planned to pay it all off and sell it, and retire with hey, 2 Million bucks cash. Well a Heart Attack at 50 stopped that from happening. 18 hours a day, 7 days a week does that to you. So Plan B. Well plan D by that time. Oh Well such is life.

I found this pretty interesting article about him. Pretty much follows your timelines. https://www.inc.com/magazine/201305/david-h-freedman/jim-jannard-and-the-red-camera-rebels.html

Well I will admit is is confusing to be honest. It's water over the damn now. His company is doing well and that is good. He is pushing hard and that benefits us all now and down the road. And yeah I still go to CML everyday. Lot of know how on there and insider stuff. Not like it once was but.. Crazy news. Jannard owns the Fiji islands of Kaibu and Vatu Vara. He also owns a 500-acre island in the San Juan Islands archipelago. https://cml.news/g/cml-announcements

You and JB are both crazy LoL. He is going to build a whole factory, hire everyone, and engineer, and build them, and ship them 1 3/4 years later, yeah, sure that is what happened. And I believe in the tooth fairy.

So you really believe Jannard stated a company and 1 1/2 years, to 2 years later was selling the Red One Mysterium, Interesting. And the reason I pre ordered one was I had heard about it and followed it for years before it ever came to a reality. It was off and on again and again. Mostly because the tech was not there at the time. Red pretty much builds there own cameras. https://petapixel.com/2017/11/30/red-cameras-made/ I was hardly going to pay 13 thousand bucks for a camera from a guy I never heard of, or read about in 2006. https://petapixel.com/2017/11/30/red-cameras-made/ Wiki Says 1999. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Digital_Cinema This article say the same. https://www.technologyreview.com/s/426387/red-the-camera-that-changed-hollywood/

Yeah if I had known what would happen, I would have bought 200 Isco 36's and retired to a Pacific Island. Isco Ultra Stars hard to beat for a newcomer getting into Anamorphic. You couldn't hardly give them away years ago. When Mirrorless cameras came out the price of all lenses went up big time.

Well I think if they can do what Maybe Red is doing to not Have to have glasses on it might get traction again. I for one am not going to sit for hours with goofy glasses on to see anything. The same can be said for strapping a iPhone to your face and looking like a Dork, head in the air, saying WoW Man for 3 minutes doing VFX. Ain't happening. So Glassless 3D may make a comeback. I did enjoy it when I was a kid running out to the Lobby to supposedly go Pee LoL. Scary stuff at times.

WEBN, a local radio station in Cincinnati, Ohio came up with this, Brute Force Cybernetics was "We create a need, then fill it." The station began referring to itself as "The Lunatic Fringe of American FM" ... Sort of sounds like the same thing!

Yeah but I think there are two main reasons it is sort of Frumpy is the 5" screen size, and the Cooling Fan housing. I doubt filming in 4K will be a problem unlike Sony has with such a small body. I suspect that is what is holding up the Sony A7s k III.

Red Camera was started in 1999. You don't ship a camera the first day you start i business! That is 19 years ago. I have owned two Incorporated company's and I sure never hit the ground running the next day with products or services LoL.

Like I said I had an order for one probably back in 2006. It was over a year I guess before they shipped. I had been talking with Jim Jannard on the phone and with emails for an easy year before that or more. He had had the idea for a Red camera for Years before one actually hit the street. I finally gave up.. It was that bad on delays. I needed a camera then, not one 2 years later. I ended up just giving up on the project and never revisited it.